Poptimists get into ...METAL?!

More female fronted metal with an occult fascination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOLCBB2v2A an ilxor and his wife are in this band

Italian prog-doom inspired by a 1920s film of the same name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssh089PEFw

occult rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIqwVbjLnY

okay that Jex Thoth song is kicking my ass

wait which ilxor?

he has a wand

a mod needs to edit george's first post btw

tilting at windmills, but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYUKgKnoaGo

too throwbacky for this thread, but the vocals are clean and it's a good deal more accessible than most stuff that gets covered in rolling metal

if we're doing stuff from a wee bit further back then this is glorious doom with pop chorus by the best trad doom band of the last 15 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N0dIdeXcEY

and my fave Slough Feg song. Trad heavy metal here in the vein of maiden/lizzy. maybe djp will dig it though poptimists might not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpVClr_DL4o

drugs b righty!

I just recently acquired that Jex Thoth album, love it. Other than the EP a couple years ago, they've been quiet. Anyone know if they've got something in the pipeline for this year?

did you hear the Sabbath Assembly thing she sang on?

ok George how did we forget this big un
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz36ymPEWMc

lol

Another good poppy doom song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ra0GIe8SRY

wait a min, is that Ned on the cover of the Cauldron album?

cannot wait to hear that full christian mistress album. the two songs i've heard so far are stellar.

i pre-ordered it like 3 months ago

george it looks like the poptimists aren't interested :(

You shouldve linked to this thread when Uncle Acid placed on the countdown

i did (i think) but maybe pop fans just aren't interested in the bogeyman called metal?

Cher Lloyd - Sticks + Stones
Ghost - Opus Eponymous

Next to each other on my albums ballot. There's lots of great stuff in this thread. Pop / metal seems like a really natural crossover.

probably a reaction against harsh vocals that long term metallers have got a bit fed up with without it going backwards to lame 80s glam pop metal stuff.

Maybe "poptimists" don't consider themselves poptimists (or realize there's no such thing?) Anyway, I'm not sure whether people consider me a poptimist or not, but I just wanted to mention that, just a couple years ago, people would give me hell on ILM's rolling metal thread whenever I complained that such and such band (or metal in general, then) "wasn't catchy enough," since (this is more or less a direct quote I think) "hooks haven't been important in metal since the '80s." Anyway, I'm glad lots of metal (and Rolling Metal) wound up coming around to my way of thinking. And I'm on record already as liking a lot of metal posted on this thread (and also on record as liking the Pistol Annies album, fwiw).

I also think I was fed up with vomit-style vocals before lots of other metallers around here were. (And I used to catch hell about that too!) Did like (and write about) that Jex Thoth album back when it came out, though. And that sort of thing (Blood Ceremony, Devils Blood, etc.) has only gotten better since, to my ears.

if its good music then it doesnt matter if its growling or screeching or singing as long as it fits the music really. Im not a fan of death metal or heavy rawk 80s style vox. With the odd exceptions of course.
but when all the music has the same vox it does get very boring quickly.

it might be a very basic thing to say but some things just sound good and some don't. And to another person it may be the opposite.

Well, I'd say one positive side effect of more audible/comprehensible/not-merely-ugly-and-"brutal" vocals is that some metal seems to be (I'm crossing my fingers anyway) turning slowly back into a music with actual songs, not just a sound. Songs you can actually tell apart, and remember when the album's over. Maybe to some people they never went away, and other people might not care. But to me, it's a healthy development.

^^word

i think the reason people hated pop in metal was because it reminded them of 80s pop/glam metal, a lot of this newer stuff isn't like that. So now they have a new reference point and think 'hey this stuff isnt that bad after all'. Of course purists will hate it, but purists usually only listen to music thats ancient anyway as newer stuff isnt as pure or something.
in short, fuck them.

but there's room for all. I love atmospheric stuff. I love good riffs. I do not think metal should be only "classic verse chorus verse" ( i hate those indie ppl i know who think all music should be britpop). It shouldn't be only 1 or 2 kinds of anything.

I interviewed Emile Sande last week. I told her I was disappointed when I listened to her album and found out that 'Breaking The Law' wasn't a cover of the Judas Priest NWOBHM classic.

She didn't know what I was referring to but she admitted that her interest had been aroused slightly.

lol I was hoping for the same thing when I saw her album's tracklist.

Not exactly pop but the intro for this is veeeery Bark Psychosis

http://youtu.be/Vb01CfEdkGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb01CfEdkGI

Have I succeeded in getting other people into Midnight Odyssey? YES.

i keep thinking of posting things but they would be more suited for a "hey avant garde noise freakos get into...METAL?!"

did someone post an ulver video yet or is that still exiled from metal town

or actually anything off of last years devin townsend album. pop people should really dig into latter day devin stuff.

The one Hammers of Misfortune song I heard sounded like Big Country (this is not a bad thing in my book btw)

i am mostly alone in this obv but i was really disappointed in this most recent hammers of misfortune after really digging them up until now.

you should start that thread jjj

"hey avant garde noise freakos get into...METAL?!"

I sort of expected the Wolf People album to be a great uniter but then no one seemed to really notice it.

Wolf People are no Powerwolf.

tim f did you play these yet?

I just wanted to mention that, just a couple years ago, people would give me hell on ILM's rolling metal thread whenever I complained that such and such band (or metal in general, then) "wasn't catchy enough,"

I think "people" in this phrase is really just ornery old me

thinking really hard lately about the latest retro wave in metal, which I think much of this stuff counts as - Ghost, Devil's Blood, my own favorite In Solitude, and also the new one by RAM which is excellent Hall of the Mountain Grill x Sad Wings of Destiny stuff: I think there's a fair amount of good songwriting in it, and generally less of the nostalgia-retro impulse that makes me dislike neo-thrash as much as I do. Feel like some of this stuff - especially Ghost and In Solitude - manage to sound sort of of-another-time without coming off irritating and romantic about it, which is a hard trick

naturally me being me I hope no crossover at all occurs & no new converts are gained

Are there many good metal vids out there? I stopped following just as web2.0 was kicking off so I have no idea. Is it literally just goths in churches or do they have better stuff than that?

I don't know if Red Fang's video's are "good" but they are certainly "fun" (in a very beery way):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQPfQvLIseA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VufilzHKTqk

i hear whiney's working on something abt this tbh http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

I think "people" in this phrase is really just ornery old me

I actually had somebody else in mind, believe it or not. (And I had my ornery moments, now and then.)

Are there many good metal vids out there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GadSyHS6ow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8-zehtCs7U

I don't know if Red Fang's video's are "good" but they are certainly "fun" (in a very beery we receive money from pabst way)

i hear whiney's working on something abt this tbh

― dave cool, Friday, February 3, 2012 9:18 AM (2 hours ago)

some of the coolest news I've heard yet! Thanks!

in solitude are great too

Myrkur's not a bad choice actually. It's like Tori Amos's idea of black metal

Did Lex like the last Chelsea Wolfe album?

yup iirc

I think so. He liked Swans too (i know they're not metal but...) Lex isn't as closeminded as some think. If you give a good description of what it's like and why he might like it he will give it a listen. He listened to some pfunk I sent his way one time.

If someone whose tastes he respects likes something he will also give it a try.

i listened to Sepultura Roots recently and fell in love with it, based on Whiney's recommendation in a similar thread (something about Groovy metal bands) can anyone recommend me more stuff like that

I cant as I hated groove metal especially Pantera and the like (Though i never saw Sepultura in that mould) but I guess plenty here could recommend you what they liked.

Corrosion Of Conformity were great and I think their pepper era stuff does count but is really good.

Some bands listed here like Mastodon and Meshuggah are def not groove metal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_groove_metal_bands
Prong I think mightve gone in that direction but it was not their good stuff.

early lamb of god was really great until they went groove metal imo

Roots is excellent in parts. Far Beyond Driven is probably the Pantera album to go for in the groove-metal vein. From that wiki list, Clutch are good, i suppose. White Zombie aren't listed but aren't a million miles away.

Myrkur's not a bad choice actually. It's like Tori Amos's idea of black metal

― steely dad (Drugs A. Money)

based on "mausoleum" i'd say it's more lorena mckennit's idea of black metal!

or dead can dance, i can't decide

You might enjoy Sep's Chaos AD as well, more of a straight metal album but starting to incorporate the influences foun in Roots.

Yeah, I would also look up Soulfly which is the band Max C started to follow up on Roots.

Not the same thing but Clutch's Transnational Speedway League is an absolute classic. I did not even realize Clutch had 12 albums! I'm prob way overdue to tackle their whole discography.

That was their best album imo but also an anomaly in their discography as it was more post-hardcore than the stoner rock they became famous for

Myrkur's not a bad choice actually. It's like Tori Amos's idea of black metal

― steely dad (Drugs A. Money)

based on "mausoleum" i'd say it's more lorena mckennit's idea of black metal!

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, February 10, 2017 6:44 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or dead can dance, i can't decide

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, February 10, 2017 6:45 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wish i liked myrkur more bc all of these descriptions make her music sound like it's Perfect

I did not even realize Clutch had 12 albums! I'm prob way overdue to tackle their whole discography.

Pick one at random. They're all exactly the same.

I like the *sounds* of Myrkur but a lot of her album sounds half-finished

Yeah I mean I thought the album was a solid B-minus but theoretically Lex wd be looking for different things out of BM than I would

the record i heard was "mausoleum" which is her and a choir in a crypt, no metal at all. i guess it's not typical of her? but it sounds better than when she tries to do the black metal thing.

She should collaborate with Mesarthim on her next album

oh btw the answer to this thread is blood command

maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4i1y34IazI

xps- i kinda figured a good groove metal album is some lightning in a bottle shit, and Roots was a 'one good album in an otherwise meritless genre' situation but i'll check some of these out, thx. enjoying Clutch rn, this music makes me lol but in a good way