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mindvalley is my fav name for anything, really disappointed i didnt come up w/it myself

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

Wonder if these businesses are designed specifically to attract those types of people. When people are looking for help and guidance they're vulnerable, and some people when they're vulnerable are very suggestible or at the worst looking to lose themselves into something ... don't know much about Landmark itself, but you get people who can be easily exploited. Makes me sick to think about.

Rethinking your context about stuff is a good idea ... reminds me of Buddhism or even 7 Habits/Dale Carnegie kinda stuff, and totally appeals to common sense. But even that can be a hook all depending on how it's used.

Spectrum, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

mindvalley is v arrested development-y

horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

ok can we stop being analytical and go back to finding awesome craziness to link?

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

life coach FAQ

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting btw how Tony Robbins has shifted from sketchy/cult-y to more the TED Talk style of self-improvement.

Burritos are one of the things I'm nostalgic about!!! (Eazy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I had a roommate who was really into Landmark. Mostly it seemed like she had never reached an adult level of emotional function, and Lmark was showing her how to grow up. It was kind of like remedial emotional life skills, or at least that's what she was getting out of it and coming home to talk about.

It seemed like kind of dumb obvious shit to me, but she was a nice person who meant well and had had a lot of bad/violent things happen to her, and been poor and without options. Considering all of that, she had kind of made a success of herself, and she looooooved Landmark.

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Mostly it seemed like she had never reached an adult level of emotional function

tbf this describes like 90% of the human beings i interact with on a daily basis on ilx and in real life.

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

lol there are some outlier TED Talks that are suspicious

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

I happen to know some people on ilx and irl too, and when I say that she was emotionally dysfunctional/unlearned, I mean in comparison to the other people I have known.

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

mindvalley is v arrested development-y

Located at the base of Fuck Mountain.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

yeah there are definitely some dubious TED talks...
xp

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

ted is generally dubious imho

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

just the whole culture

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

This is such high end motivational stuff. I am really interested in the low end -- like this class by Alan Salami, LCSW

Want to learn how to talk to anyone at anytime and make a good impression. Are your fears of rejection in your way? Come learn how to:
o Overcome your fears
o Feel good about yourself and what you have to say
o Project self-confidence
o Start and continue conversations
We will practice self-image building and power communication skills. Alan Salami LCSW is an NLP Master Practitioner and Psychotherapist. He specializes in assisting people to learn new mental skills to transform their lives. Mat. Fee: $10

http://www.discoverycenter.cc/classes/il3556.htm

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

Start and continue conversations

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

I happen to know some people on ilx and irl too, and when I say that she was emotionally dysfunctional/unlearned, I mean in comparison to the other people I have known.

lol, fair enough. I was just trying to make the point that humans in general kinda suck at basic emotional competencies, but that's probably a discussion for another thread.

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

o Feel good about yourself and what you have to say

nbd

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

Alan Salami LCSW is an NLP Master Practitioner and Psychotherapist.

first glance thought this said Alan Salami LCSW is an NLP Master Practitioner and Psychobabblist.

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

The business development/futurism/positivity/self improvement axis is a slippery slope.

guys check this out, specifically the course titles that are of the form "If I'm X then how come I'm not rich/famous"

http://www.floatinguniversity.com/courses

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

Pleased to see local ChILX hero Alan Salami itt.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

i think that might be the practical philosophy stuff i used to see advertised on MTA a lot. certainly something like that

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

These are not quite the same, but the format of:
Listen to genuine experts speak in broad, motivational terms about their fields
->
You are going to get some sort of insights and start your own business or come up with a revolutionary idea

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

While we're at it, how about this place?!

this is gonna be lol hueg

http://www.fairtalk.com/RashtraGita/MAHARISHI%20TOWER%20POSTER.jpg

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol those practical philosophy ads xp

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

That's Iowa btw. AKA Utopia.

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

I think that one that's always on the train is...another culty movement...energy manipulation, kind of...shoot WHAT is it called??

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

Founded by a lady named...Mary??

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

No, I don't know. I can't remember.

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/UICuK.jpg

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

oh man, anything that says maharishi

Is that referring to the maharishi school in Fairfield? It is a very interesting little community in that they have all these stores and nice stuff and it's in the middle of nowhere! I kind of wanted to go see David Lynch speak there a few years ago, lol

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

u really shouldve gone to that

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! My husband is from there.

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

I have been there many times too, obvs, but he grew up there. That place is BANANAS.

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

btw something abt that photo of the tower of invincibility looks not quite real idk

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

this doc was pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq0rsiw6IFo

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

NO WAY. I totally want to hear your husband's take on it. I wonder if he knows anyone I know from there. I take it he was a local and not in the school?

The kids that went to the Maharishi school always did the same nerdy academic competitions that I was in, but I am not sure they necessarily did really well?

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

lol just walked by a colleagues desk and saw a letter from landmark education on it. serendipity?

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

yes, he was a townie. dad still lives a little outside town.

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bigdreamgathering.com/

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

Join
in the
Convo

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

Some of the people who have posted their BIG dreams in the past have…

scored a contract with a major shoe company
gone to Africa to help children living in poverty
launched businesses to sell art on-line
written books
transitioned into jobs they loved
launched non-profit organizations
run marathons
sent truck loads of school supplies to Africa
met new friends and made great contacts

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

^^ this thing had some local meeting and a friend went and they had some bizarro religion thing going on too

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

THEOSOPHY!

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

it is my big dream to run a marathon

ok great start running

great thank you big dream!

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

btw still trying to figure out if sending a "truck load" of school supplies to Africa makes any sense when there is an ocean

mh, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

haha wait theosophy is still a going concern

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://theosophy.org/

one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

i mean

http://i.imgur.com/dX5Yg.jpg

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

Something called "Bodhi Spiritual Center" is taking over a church across from our apt. I just googled it and the first auto complete was "Bodhi spiritual center cult."

LL, The Tower of Invincibility is amazing.

gonna give her the old fuquay-varina (Jenny), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link


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