Flag Post

only the words have changed

it's kinda like the end of Prohibition

lol gr80 otm

quick qn: if i sb'd somebody w/in the last 60 days will my clicking 'flag post' contribute towards a possible temp ban?

did all SB's get wiped out today?

That's EXACTLY how I use bookmarks tho - thank you Stet. xp

Je55e: stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days

what's different apart from the name of the link tho?
Have changed some of the mod tools, but yea, this is semantic -- but in ways that I'm much happier about and I think are important. I'd prefer people to be going "look at this post" than "look at this poster".

(Which is really how I've thought of it for a long time, but the wording didn't reflect that.)

statesmanlike solution imo

Just wondering what about these posts you think needs moderator attention.

― Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:01 PM

do u intend to ask that question to every person that flags a post

All the former SBs have been being recorded against actual posts for some time. Might be we need to scan over them, but haven't wiped them out wholesale. xxp

xp well, there was uproar when the moderators were unquestioningly applying the 51, can't have it both ways

The name change is enough imo, there's no longer a negative vibe hanging off every single post.

am0n: no, I just didn't see anything objectionable in that batch

test

ya i know, i was just elaborating on my question upthread about 'flag post' abuse

i suppose it can't really be abused any more than sb could huh

I think the spirit of the rules are pretty clear. Don't get down and dirty with personal attacks. Don't indulge your meanest instincts here. Don't do stuff that is socially taboo, like spouting racist nonsense, or DOS attacks. We users get to call attention to posts we think violate these rules and the mods get to decide how to handle it.

Works for me.

very cool new system

See, I have a habit of bookmarking a thread as I'm scrolling down it. If I'm reading through a hundred posts or whatever, I won't have to re-read them all to find my place again. I'll obviously just have to adjust, but I feel like the new style impedes on the utility a little.

Good job on the suggbans though, stet. It's time for a new era.

xp: but what's gonna happen to you dave?

dave cool editor of the rolling stones likes it

beachville otm

See, I have a habit of bookmarking a thread as I'm scrolling down it.

I didn't realise that I do this way more than I thought, too. Turns out I also have been clicking bookmark on the last post before reading it, for some reason. Going to give this one a few days and see what people think. I'm already finding it a bit more useful, tbh.

I agree with Aimless, the spirit of the rules are clear and otm. But I do encourage the mods to sort out the rules into details rather quickly; there are a lot of "we can potentially", "maybes", "I think" and "still need to discuss this" in Stet's reply.

I think dave cool will start a new Twitter feed to rate the flagged posts out of 10.

Oh and please keep the bookmark-jump-to-top thing. Why because it's awesome

i like that the 'flag post' warning text is a gentle but authoritative blue, not alarm the-airlock-is-opening red

thx for all the work on this, stet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP4jerUBr7Q

Any concerns about over-flagging being a PITA for you mod folk?

lol

http://i.imgur.com/8Aumh.jpg

there are a lot of "we can potentially", "maybes", "I think" and "still need to discuss this" in Stet's reply.

TBH, conceivably, I need to consider stopping doing this shit. I noticed it at work today too. Like, I can see that if I maybe ever got married, I'd be all "I think I take this woman","in health and potentially sickness", "for richer and poorer, in some circumstances".

stet otm

I can see that if I maybe ever got married

still doing it imo

poor frogbs, it's like dying just before a cure for your disease is discovered.

so wait, a single post needs to receive 51 flags now, correct?

heh

poor frogbs, it's like dying just before a cure for your disease is discovered.

http://i.imgur.com/PGlto.jpg

TBH, conceivably, I need to consider stopping doing this shit. I noticed it at work today too. Like, I can see that if I maybe ever got married, I'd be all "I think I take this woman","in health and potentially sickness", "for richer and poorer, in some circumstances".

― stet, woensdag 1 februari 2012 0:22 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't know if you are being sarcastic; I was in early to applaud this change from sb to fp tbh

sorry, was just being random -- I just happened to notice today at work that I hedge things too much stimes and that reminded me.

(There really are a few open questions about FP, though.)

Cool. No problem about open q's. I think the new system offers way better options than SB.

We can certainly start weeding out any spurious or baffling flagged posts.
This would lead to maybe taking different actions, like (off the top of my head) if all the posts are on one specific board, why not just ban the user from that board as a first step?

amazing that its taken three and a half years but thank you

― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:03 PM (4 minutes ago)

I do this as a matter of course, and I've done so a ton in the past for loads of people i.e. whiney. I haven't said much about it b/c it isn't really anybody's business that I'm removing their haha-comedy-SBs that were cleary intended as yokes, and pruning back to the legitimate, offensive, complaints. The only way anybody would know if they were getting close/a serious number of undismissable actual SBs is when I (or another mod) tries to send them a private email saying they're getting close, and just to be careful. Maybe this isn't appreciated, because I've never heard back, but I've sent a good dozen of these in the past along the lines of 'hey, I deleted all the fake SBs, and you're still in the realm of ~40, just fyi sincerely remy'

i mean i can be more explicit about every single comedy SB i remove, pruning action but it's gonna be really boring to read, annoying to do, and it'll probably make me do it less. the criteria i use is, i think, pretty upfront:

leave the SB/flag post in place if the content flagged is:

+ racist/sexist/homophobic/whatever in a way that ACTUALLY SEEMS TO OFFEND somebody (hint: no art of pretend offense), and doesn't contribute to a discussion or thread of conversation. context is key here, but SBs for, say clumsily using the word 'retard' in a conversation about the fairness of the word 'retard' are generally safe.

+ a blatant ad hominem

+ an invasion of the privacy, or the explicitly stated and well-known wishes of a poster ('don't connect me to my place of business')

+ spam

+ off-topic pornographic or NSFW in a non-pornographic or NSFW post.

no real need for sb function at all by that token

thank you stet, i like how this change put the emphasis on a post rather than its poster.

i also like how i can't see it making much difference to the posting future of flagbs.

<3

I love you estela

flagbs...man

very cool new system

― dave cool, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:15 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

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