Best Song on Diddy - Dirty Money's "Last Train to Paris"

"yesterday" is probably my third- or fourth favorite song, i actually think CB's voice suits it very well

lol xp

hating timberlake's grocery bagging is 1) homophobic (jk) 2) taking things too seriously. the song is just fun

mayyybe thematically, i mean who cares tho, and sonically it's more an outlier than pretty much everything else other than "change"!

― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this isn't true at all... sonically it fits w/ a lot of stuff on the album, layers of synths and vocals, you're being crazy

i think chris brown is great on this album... i mean there are places where his wounded, fragile singing voice really does not work, and there are places where it's totally perfect, and i think on this album it's pretty close to the latter

if there's anything that breaks up the flow of the album it's "angels", which i love, but "hate you now", "shades" and "your love" all use similar tricks and then in the middle is this hollowed out track w/ a biggie verse

one of the great strengths of this album that i picked up on more w/ some distance is how seamlessly so many major stars are folded into the album... it's not so much that they disappear but it's almost at times if like the entire black pop music community has come together to express its heartache at once

^^^ said that in my review. The thing is like an updated Motown revue.

Also, Timberlake is the last thing I remember about "Shades." What lingers is the insinuating, slinky groove and mood.

also

what you gonna do
what you gonna do when i'm perfect for you
girl watch how it's gonna drive you crazy
and love's gonna turn you up baby
girl watch how it's gonna drive you crazy

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHEN I'M PERFECT FOR YOU

etc.

^^^ that's the best part of "Shades", & the way it transitions into the Timberlake part

to me its the vocals on the chorus... or whichever part it is where they sing "whatchu gonna do when i'm perfect for you?"... the vocals on that are great, the way they're layered so thick, it plays perfectly with the "hate you now" and "your love"

Last slew of posts have all been very much OTM.

I'll spend the rest of my life defending this album to skeptics.

i might be totally wrong about this, but it sounds to me like the harmonies on the chorus are layered in a way that is slightly out of sync, which has this great, disorienting effect.

i assume it's bilal & fauntelroy doing those parts?

I mean, if "Yesterday" was my favourite song I'd feel a bit weird promoting it for the same reason, but nor do I automatically vomit in my mouth every time I hear the same vocalist who I loved on "Forever" and "With You" and "Superhuman" and "Run It" and "Yo" and...

It certainly helps that I mostly hated Chris Brown before he beat up Rihanna; "Run It" and "No Air" was the only songs of his I actually liked before he plopped himself on my personal boycott list.

for all of my shortcomings,.. welcome to my homecoming!!

man i was listening to this album (or more specifically my LTTP/LOVElove vs. HATElove/A Telltale Heart mega playlist) all day today and marveling at these songs all over again, fun to come home and see you guys were all talking about it at the same time.

fwiw k3v the wayne & justin parts of "shades" (especially wayne) are probably my least favorite parts of the entire album and the rest of the song is probably my favorite, and i've made my peace w/ that and consider the song great in spite of its faults

lex has pointed this out but despite the fact that I've probably racked up a cumulatie of 30-50+ plays on each track, each song just still sounds so fresh and nice and unique

for all of my shortcomings,.. welcome to my homecoming!!

― dayo, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:48 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's been a long time coming!

[Love that there is another secret reference to moar soul classics embedded in the lyrics. Sam Cooke what!]

I think what I really want to know is when Diddy actually learned how to rap

I mean, it's been building for a good long while now but I think he is legit good album this album, not just "good for Diddy"

He doesn't rise above "okay" imo, even on "Looking For Love," but that's a personal best.

He sinks again on the new Ross mixtape, alas.

well let's be clear, "good" and "amazing" are two different levels

I like to think on LTTP that the company inspired him.

even tho the whole thing was ghostwritten my favorite moment of his is still "Testimonial" from Press Play

eh i always thought his rapping was a pretty secondary concern on this album -- a lot of songs he only sings, or shows up w/ one verse a full two and a half minutes in. obviously there are some strong moments within those verses (it just hit me today how good he is on "someone to love me") but i mean he's still using ghostwriters and considering how often on this album it's rick ross it's kind of lol for you to say that.

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whoops - I meant "Someone to Love Me" in my example.

Diddy's always been enjoyable as a rapper if he has someone good writing for him.

Re: "Angels" sticking out, I kind of get the impression he put it out there before he'd really figured out the direction of the rest of the album and it ended up coming along for the ride. Note that the version on the album is reworked slightly from the single to fit in a bit better: those trancy synths at the beginning, no violin solo.

i've been listening to a misordered tracklist of this the entire time

i swear the version i actually bought is not the tracklist thats on wikioedia and amazon

do you have the itunes deluxe version w/ 'first place loser' on it? it's in a different order than most version of the album, but that's the one i listen to and prefer.

nah, i bought the actual CD

well you would be able to consult the jewelcase to straighten this out then right?

yeah, i'm not at home right now tho

oh ok -- fwiw the album wiki USED to show how the itunes running order differed from the CD but doesn't anymore, iirc the most prominent sequencing difference is one has "ass" then "yeah yeah" and the other has "yeah yeah" then "ass"

http://www.coverdude.com/covers/diddy-dirty-money-last-train-to-paris-back-cover-64793.jpg

this is the tracklist i have... the one on wikipedia and amazon is totally off tho -- "looking for love" is thrown to the back half, "your love" is before "shades", "yesterday" is the third to last song

woah and "loving you no more" isn't on it at all?

i have it as a bonus track

gonna make a playlist and listen to it based on the other tracklist tho

oh ok -- fwiw the album wiki USED to show how the itunes running order differed from the CD but doesn't anymore, iirc the most prominent sequencing difference is one has "ass" then "yeah yeah" and the other has "yeah yeah" then "ass"

― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:36 PM (18 minutes ago)

ok whoa this is blowing my mind

my tracklist is what jordan posted except with "last night pt 2" and "change" inserted

i cannot imagine it any other way

i initially downloaded the leak which follows jordan's tracklist, but then i purchased the record from itunes which had 1. intro 2. ass on the floor 3. yeah yeah you would... it's really strange and not nearly as natural of a track progression as jordan's/k3vin's version. no idea why it changed.

putting the single upfront i presume

Besides that reversal, though, I prefer the deluxe tracklist - I Know --> Loving You No More --> Last Night Part 2 --> Yesterday is a really smooth run, and 'Change' belongs right before 'Coming Home' if anywhere.

i kinda want a poll of just songs that got no votes in this poll

this poll was started way too early, maybe in like a year it'll be re-polled

i think a repoll of the whole album wld have a the same top four regardless of how much time has passed but there are some real gems w/0 votes

true true