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Is it possible for sub-board mods to see flagged posts on their particular boards? It'd make modding them easier.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

I think I like this a LOT better than the SB process, because this can really get the mods to understand exactly where an issue stems from.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

"flagged posts" are good posts that i want to save to read again later, right?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

On the policy q, as we talked about on sandbox this doesn't change it so much as reflect how it has been working for a good while -- we disabled the automatic banning of users after a certain number of SBs a long time ago.

What has been happening is that mods have been monitoring users getting SBs, reviewing posts that were getting SBd etc, and taking action when they get past a certain level.

This change reflects that -- you click it on a post and you're no longer saying "machine, ban this person if enough people agree with me", you're saying "mods, look at this post and take action if you agree it's required".

Which is, I think, a slightly different message, especially if you're banned as a consequence, even if the literal actions of "a load of ilxors clicked a link, a mod stepped in and the user got the hammer" don't change.

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://forums.zeroin.co.uk/images/smilies/bs.gif

am0n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

Man I lucked out living in the Central Time Zone today.

pplains, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

Is it possible for sub-board mods to see flagged posts on their particular boards? It'd make modding them easier.
That's probably not a bad idea at all, actually

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

thanks stet. personally i think the term is a little less clear than "suggest ban" (like i was joking above obv but i think someone could actually think "flag post" means something like "save this to read later" like when you flag an email in outlook) but if it works the same way then it's cool.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, but does it matter which post we SB/flag, when it's really about wanting the poster banned?

sarahell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

Confirming this will flag the post for the attention of the moderators.

Posters whose posts are repeatedly flagged may be limited from posting or banned.

Flag this post for moderation.

xp

Aerosol, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe we should call it "Flog Post".

pplains, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

whats the policy on 'flag post' being abused (not by me of course http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/images/smilies/large/smiley_smug.gif)

am0n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

I think it does, I mean if some random googler shows up says some odious, racist shit in one thread but otherwise harmless talk in a couple other threads, it should be easy for the mods to figure out where the issue stems from.

(xpost)

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

It does insofar as it would be better to want somebody gone for something specifically objectionable they've posted, rather than just for being who they are.

xp to sarahell

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, WmC otm.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

This is loads better. Thanks stet.

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, but does it matter which post we SB/flag, when it's really about wanting the poster banned?

I don't think you should suggest anyone to be banned if you can't even point out a single post of them that'd justify the ban.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

how charitable of you, jon, to pose it as the action of a random googler

sarahell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

flagg post

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2338/2285301605_8023a69f4e_z.jpg?zz=1

buzza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DsToYffGBY

markers, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link


how charitable of you, jon, to pose it as the action of a random googler

It wasn't just trying to be charitable, I thought it was an applicable example. If a new poster shows up and seems fine in most threads, but is being really questionable in another, we can point to the problem so its not just like a "we don't like this new guy" thing.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

it seems like that issue mostly revolves around regulars iirc

sarahell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Alright, yeah, it can cover a wide variety of uses!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

but hey - this system seems more civil and mature than SB, and here's hoping that it can also provide us some good LOLs along the way

sarahell, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

this is the greatest day of my life

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

flag post sitta

am0n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't Sb Whiney this time, so it came as a surprise to me that he got 51ed because I hadn't seen anything uncool written by him.

I'm not a moderator, but I could see where it would be confusing.

I'm still ready to hear what the new policies are. Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each? Is 51 even a number anymore? Are the 30 day temp bans still the same?

pplains, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

and, as sincerely as possible, thanks stet for the great work.

pplains, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ this

I had no idea Whiney was gone again until I noticed he was absent from the poll threads. What happened now?

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

thumbs up!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

flagged a bunch of posts itt. let me know how that works out exactly, policy seems pretty vague so far

am0n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

"FPed you for that btw" just doesn't have that je ne sais quoi.

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

flapped

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

ran you up the pole

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

saluted your shorts

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

formed a silent circle of american college christians around that post you made

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still ready to hear what the new policies are. Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each? Is 51 even a number anymore? Are the 30 day temp bans still the same?

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and, as sincerely as possible, thanks stet for the great work.

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This, and this. Still would like to know about the rules, but thanks Stet

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

joined the boy scouts to learn how to fold your post because you just got flagged

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

f.l.a.g.

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

wind moves everything around me

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still ready to hear what the new policies are. Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each? Is 51 even a number anymore? Are the 30 day temp bans still the same?

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and, as sincerely as possible, thanks stet for the great work.

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This, and this. Still would like to know about the rules, but thanks Stet

― future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (2 minutes ago)

^^flagging these posts as awesome and not-to-be-missed

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

lol at "as sincerely as possible"

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

Serious question: Does Flag Posts have anything to do with why bookmarking is muffed up for me now? Now when I click "Bookmark" on a post, I am redirected to uppermost post displayed. This was not the case about 30 minutes ago.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still ready to hear what the new policies are. Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each? Is 51 even a number anymore? Are the 30 day temp bans still the same?

tbh I unfairly didn't give the mods any real warning abt this change after it was discussed on sandbox, so don't have any real policy changes yet. That said, I feel that 51 individual users saying "take action about this user" is still a strong signal, and is about the right level for action to be taken.

We can potentially focus thinking more on posts now than before -- "51 users objected to these specific posts by this user" -- and I'm thinking about tools that would help with that. We can certainly start weeding out any spurious or baffling flagged posts.

This would lead to maybe taking different actions, like (off the top of my head) if all the posts are on one specific board, why not just ban the user from that board as a first step?

If a user does get a site ban after a load of users flag their posts, I think that should still stay at a month off for the first offence, getting progressively steeper until potentially permaban. But again, need to discuss this a bit.

tldr: if 51 users have flagged your posts in the past six months, and they strike us as reasonable complaints, I'd expect a ban of some kind.

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

Je55e: yeah, this is another change -- thinking is that it takes you right back to the list of bookmarks so you can choose another one to read.

stet, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

This the way Suggest Ban should've worked in the first place (as me and many others tried to say back then)

<3 you always tuomas, but you best believe i flagged the shit out of this post

xp fair enough stet- what's different apart from the name of the link tho?

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

On the mod side, I don't think anything has changed.

Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each?

No and no. As before, if a poster, not a post, gets flagged 50 times within 6 months, the rule of thumb has been to give them a one month ban on the 51st.

xps

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh.... I dunno about anyone else, but that's not how I use bookmarks. I can take this topic to another thread tho. xps

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i prefer the old bookmarks tbh

needless to say you're a hero for getting rid of SB

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

I never talk to the people who are making me not want to read ilx but they have been shitting the place up for a long time

ogmor, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

oh i know...it doesn't make me not want to check in here but it sucks.

omar little, Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link

killfile + block poster work better when others are using them too bc yeah replying to bad posters rather than ignoring them just keeps things sucking. even posting that they sucks, sucks.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

Thank you Sleeve for acknowledging my effort. Dis fucking guy is the exact reason why iirc.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

If 31 does become the new threshold, I propose we still call it being 51'ed, for the sake of tradition, much as being bounced from a bar is called being 86'ed for reasons I've never understood.

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, April 3, 2018 6:58 PM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like the way you think :)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 19:43 (six years ago) link

I've said this before I think but imo you have to acknowledge that they posted b/c otherwise it's letting the standards of the community slide, like oh huh nobody's saying anything, I guess this is the kind of place where that kind of shitposting is okay... etc

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

yknow for all those lurkers and potential awesome new posters

explosion from DOOM courtesy of id software (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

bring it down to 21 imo

lee guacamole (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 September 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

^ Flagged

calstars, Friday, 7 September 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

*salutes*

lee guacamole (darraghmac), Friday, 7 September 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

Salty!

calstars, Friday, 7 September 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link

possible misread of a pun

story of my life obv

lee guacamole (darraghmac), Friday, 7 September 2018 00:29 (five years ago) link

In North America when you “do the salute” you pull down your pants and stick your dick straight up in the air

F# A# (∞), Friday, 7 September 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

Be amazed if urs could stick up without rope

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 September 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

American Things.

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

canadian things, iirc

mookieproof, Friday, 7 September 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link

Bit cold for that sort of behaviour surely.

Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link

As american as apple pie

F# A# (∞), Friday, 7 September 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal)
Posted: September 6, 2018 at 6:20:58 PM
Be amazed if urs could stick up without rope

I’m a healthy fit fux0r that can go on all night

Don’t be jelly

F# A# (∞), Friday, 7 September 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link

ah, the sweet smell of digital testosterone

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 7 September 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

Nice work turning 'permalink' into the smaller 'link', thus making accidental flag posting more likely

imago, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

place can do with some more drama tbf

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

thats for fuckin sure

damarraghcas.jpg (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

bookmarked you for that

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

lol

imago, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

hahaha

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

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damarraghcas.jpg (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

ROFLMBO

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

A+

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

Permalinking this thread for future reference

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

Damn.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

BM is the new FP
to be used so: "Yeah, he wouldn't stop talking about men's rights so I hit him with a BM"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

Can I get a status update on everyone’s BMs please?

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

Don’t hold back, just describe the BMs as they are

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

pretty corny tbh

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link


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