I'm sorry but Paul Simon is so overrated

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you know whats kind of interesting is the word graceland sounds kind of african, it some how vibes to the post colonial milieu at least to me a guy who has never set foot in africa, it sounds religious but on the edge of a more expansive animism, its v lively and virtuous feeling, but lol its just the name of elvises house

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw plax listening to yr mix u were otm re the limitations of mine, i really doesnt capture my full feeling toward the art of paul simon

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

heard Graceland so many times growing up

<3 judith for <3in <3s n bones

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

i have added the songs from plaxs mix not already on my mix to the end of my mix, the universe is at peace

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

the logic i was working on in my mix is that they are generally more atmospheric and groove based right up until obvious child where there is the big breakdown that lets you have the more angular and mother and child reunion followed by the comedown of spirit voices and finally fade out on train in the distance, looking out onto the horizon, remembering old times.

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is a fairly comprehensive list of highlights for me but omits like gumboots or papa hobo and a few other songs.

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

are we still doing the artist specific album polls on ilm? i had signed up to run a paul simon one and as a result made a really extensive youtube playlist of all his best songs so i could put together a perfect ballot

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

the only one of those i ever enjoyed was the rem one just because of how the results were rolled out over the course of about a year. it was such a gentle appreciation.

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway i think my perfect paul simon mix would lean more heavily towards the kinda wistful and yearning and sweet songs i like those songs where hes explaining s.thing to you abt how it is to be alive but its not garish or forced or w/e and theres always a part that you can sing-along to w/o really like SINGING stuff like 'diamonds on the soles of her shoes' or 'lisa' or 'duncan' even

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

diamonds is definite top 5

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think for me his best upbeat and rhythmic stuff is like 'all around the worlds' where hes still just telling you this story and it sometimes means something and sometimes doesnt and you can just vibe out to the sound of it, like the shape of the thing, but there are still these jarring and thoughtful bits that aim to haunt you like 'abandoned now just like the war'

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

are we still doing the artist specific album polls on ilm? i had signed up to run a paul simon one and as a result made a really extensive youtube playlist of all his best songs so i could put together a perfect ballot

― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:44 PM (14 minutes ago)

Yeah, you'll be up pretty soon. Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was outta college when Graceland came out, but my slightly younger sister was a manic Simon fan from the age of EIGHT so I heard all the LPs as they were released in the '70s and '80s. We went to the Graceland tour at Radio City.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

the only one of those i ever enjoyed was the rem one just because of how the results were rolled out over the course of about a year. it was such a gentle appreciation.

― judith, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:46 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3 you for this, the funny thing of course is that that only happened through total incompetence and getting-behind-on-shit on my part. It also overlapped with me moving to India for a while, I remember using about 15 minutes a day of my pre-work internet time throwing together a result to post...good times.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is hard to make a paul simon mix because he has so many good songs

it is! and because some songs fit so well in the context of their own albums but rub up against each other weirdly on a mix. i had to take "the boxer" off a paul simon mix for my sister for this reason. also she really vibed on specific songs like "slip slidin' away" and "the obvious child" but she says she finds it hard to listen to the mix in its entirety. it's like too much unvariegated goodness.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

whereas, the first thirty times you listen to the self-titled, something like "papa hobo" kind of slides past your ears unobtrusively and then one day you're like, oh this song rules.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh plax i didn't even see that you singled out papa hobo, too <3

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

this thread title still makes me hulk out a little tbh

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i so want a horseshoe, plax, jho paul simon top ten but i dont want to ruin my poll also you all have to participate even if u dont normally otherwise ill be really mad

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

my dumb immigrant parents did not expose me to graceland as a child btw; clearly gross negligence

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am so freaking excited for that poll that it is a little sad

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like those songs where hes explaining s.thing to you abt how it is to be alive but its not garish or forced or w/e and theres always a part that you can sing-along to w/o really like SINGING stuff like 'diamonds on the soles of her shoes' or 'lisa' or 'duncan' even

this is so otm; so satisfying speak-singing along to all the repeated lines in "duncan"

horseshoe, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

My friend was one of those ppl whose parents never played it growing up, i made him listen to it for the first time a couple years ago. The other night we put it on when we were drunk and he said 'you know what, i've kinda decided this is my fav album of all-time now'. <3

just sayin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 07:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

other friend quoted you can call me al in his wedding speech over the wkend <3

just sayin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 07:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

really good post / mix by judith (plax?) itt

D-40, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

lots of good posts but i think he singled something out there

D-40, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah the greatest thing about his 1st album and much of his later catalogue is precisely the mix of precisely arranged and tightly written songs and the room to breathe (melodically and in terms of pacing and arrangement) he gives them... he's someone who is obviously concerned with written "good" songs (in a way that's become a cliché of adult-album-alternative) but who has also absorbed the lessons of much of the blues, folk, gospel, and world music he loves. peace like a river is a good example.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 February 2012 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

no no you guys this one's pretty easy

"I look outside my window and I watch the Cars" - Paul is in London where Roy Thomas Baker is producing their debut, he sees them arriving at the studio daily for tracking
"I fear I'll do some damage one fine day" - he is thinking of covering one of their songs in his own style
"but I would not be found guilty by a jury of my peers" - old hippies will love my Cars cover no matter what it sounds like
"still crazy after all these years" - I am an axe murderer

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:57 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ absolutely lolling at this right now

Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have really really been feeling the first album again lately. I think I go through phases with this guy, but boy is "Papa Hobo" resonating somehow. I'm living on Gatorade...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

gatorade is tasty it's tru

lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Solo careers are so underrated
Keep your Garfunkel and Simon completely separated

flopson, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

gatorade is tasty it's tru

― lag∞n, Sunday, February 5, 2012 10:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

orange gatorade especially.

art garfunkel's jimmy webb covers album is fantastic.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

It is!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 09:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/hey-isnt-that-paul-simon-and-thomas-friedman-at-the-bombay-club/2012/02/07/gIQAuvGCxQ_blog.html

Singer Paul Simon and New York Times columnist Tom Friedman dining together at the Bombay Club Monday night with two others. Shrimp, kebab, veggies among their shared dishes. What’s the occasion? Nothing special, the columnist’s office told us, “just a dinner with friends.”

Bombay Club in Washington D.C. I think

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

o jesus dont tell me these things

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

srsly :(

horseshoe, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

five or six D.C.-looking types.

hahaha

BJ O (Lamp), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

jews

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 9 February 2012 01:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/arts/music/paul-simon-with-the-jazz-at-lincoln-center-orchestra.html?_r=1

This sounds like it was an interesting gig

excerpt:

By JON PARELES
Published: April 20, 2012

Transformations, extrapolations and a few collisions were on the program when Paul Simon performed with the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra on Thursday night at the Rose Theater, part of a three-night fund-raising series. (With tickets costing hundreds of dollars, perhaps it was no coincidence that the first words Mr. Simon sang were “She’s a rich girl,” from “Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes.”)

Mr. Simon and Wynton Marsalis performed and brought their bands together for a concert of Simon songs at Jazz at Lincoln Center.
Mr. Simon, not usually one to cede control of his music, brought his own band to perform side by side with the Lincoln Center big band led by Wynton Marsalis. Mr. Marsalis noted that Mr. Simon was playing (and paying his band for) “three concerts for absolutely no money.”

It was all about arrangements, old and new: easing in and out of Mr. Simon’s usual band versions or completely revamping the songs. In the course of the night, the Lincoln Center band became a tag team, a beefed-up horn section, a new perspective and, now and then, a fifth wheel. As Mr. Simon sang, he breezed through the alterations to songs he has been singing for decades, toying with the timing of familiar lines to keep them conversational and immediate.

The program didn’t focus on the Simon songs closest to jazz; it didn’t include, for instance, the chromatic labyrinth of “Still Crazy After All These Years.” Instead it favored his folky and rock-tinged repertory, his three-chord marvels. Nearly all of the new arrangements were by the orchestra members, and they had a hard act to follow: Mr. Simon’s meticulous originals, with their ingenious cultural hybrids and ever nimble rhythms. His music is tightly wound, and within it are hints and implications that the big-band arrangements could pick up, and did.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guessing this event was too pricey for most NY ilmers (or they think Paul Simon is so overrated)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm sorry but wynton marsalis is so overrated

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

agree

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

i watced the bbc under african skies docu and it was dope as hell

lag∞n, Monday, 27 August 2012 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thread of missing Alamac

buzza, Monday, 27 August 2012 02:24 (1 year ago) Permalink


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