NEW AMERYKAH, POLL 1 (4th World War)

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i'm kinda amazed that this album actually charted higher in many European countries than in the UK (e.g. #5 in Sweden! #10 in Switzerland! seems v random)

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

*Cough*. Maybe it wasn't The Healer. I put on the record, we started talking about the new album, Alex said "an album of uptempo songs like this", and I don't remember if it was The Healer or Amerykahn Promise. This is important! Two very different songs. I'll ask him today at lunch.

Owen Pallett, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

if that's true about 'Honey' then it's weird that it then also became the single

not weird at all, obviously the thinking was "we need a single to sell this album, let's use that really obviously accessible song you were gonna hold for the next one". finally the weird single/bonus track status of "Honey" makes sense!

some dude, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

haha an album of amerykahn promises. IMAGINE!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

i never understood why 'the cell' wasn't considered an appropriate single, anyway. i think it's even more melodically immediate than 'honey'.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

She could say the next album is like the worst song on 4WW and I'd say the same thing.

Come to think of it, she's already had something like that -- an album of "Me"s. It's called Mama's Gun.

Eric H., Tuesday, 6 January 2009 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i never understood why 'the cell' wasn't considered an appropriate single, anyway. i think it's even more melodically immediate than 'honey'.

it's ruffer and more 'minimal' which would rule it out for me as single material

the 'add a little lemon' line in 'Honey' actually bothers me a bit just because i thought 'wait is this still a cliched metaphor or are you literally singing a song about a foodstuff?'

Owen maybe you did mean Amerykahn Promise as that or The Cell are the fastest tracks

some dude a track originally intended for the second album becoming the first single off the first album seems unconventional or "weird" to me but whatever

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

haha an album of amerykahn promises. IMAGINE!

― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:42 AM (22 minutes ago)

^would buy

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

she said in an interview shes working with wajeed, jay electronica, madlib and basically other hip hop producers for pt 2. so it prob will be more like the healer. id like it to be more like master teacher pt 2, me, and telephone, but apparently part 3, or the third album shes done/been talking about is more mamas gun-sounding stuff, apparently more blues/jazz-based.

honey is an underrated song on this album.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

MORE BALEARIC

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

O_O

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I want this embedded IN MY BRANE

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

:-O

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I talked to my resident Baduphile. When NA1:4WW came out, Erykah had big plans. 'New Amerykah 2: Return Of The Ankh' was to come out summer 2008, she was also gonna make a record with 'band', Tin Machine-style. She was even gonna publish a magazine. These plans have been altered or set aside.

At the time, she said of NA2:ROTA that it was made independently of NA1:4WW. Conceptually and compositionally different. She said it was more deeply steeped in 70s funk. As the sole track from the ROTA sessions, we can imagine ROTA to be an entire album of "Honey"... which is the song Alex referenced me to.

Here's a Youtube of a song from the new album, from a VH1 performance. It is called "Annie Don't Wear No Panties"

Owen Pallett, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"She was sittin' on the front pew/ Givin' Deacon Johns n em a good view"

XD XD XD

The Reverend, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

fellas if u can't afford it
think u better videotape record it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

also jesus HER HAIR IS INCREDIBLE

lex pretend, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

is that the clip where she calls out her sister at the end for singing a wrong note? i love that.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

also jesus HER HAIR WIG IS INCREDIBLE

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

her chris dave is incredible

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

her body (and voice, obv) is incredible.

i luv badu.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Suddenly I have the fears about ROTA. "Annie" is cute and funny, but in no way primo Badu material.

Eric H., Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

"my ass and legs have gotten thick" indeed

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The Reverend, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

not heard it but that lyric makes me think of betty davis. that whole vhi gig is on the net as mp3s somewhere...

and yes, GREAT ass.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i would kill for a mama's gun-style record with that live band.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

On the converse, hearing that it's all supposed to be like "Honey" and "Annie" makes me feel a lot better about the prospects of the new album than if she was trying to make another album just like 4th World War.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't think she understands how much ilx loves this record and how she ought to make more like it.

& my ass and legs have gotten thick is a great line.

schlump, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

New Amerykah Part 2: He Got In! Plus Woah My Ass Is Awesome In That YT Clip

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

"the Morbius strip of issues" (stevie), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry, meant to post THIS:

it's all good though...

"the Morbius strip of issues" (stevie), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

daaaaaaaamn

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 04:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i arrived late, but it's gotta be 'the cell'. that song is impossibly fresh and vital, and has restored my faith in hearing something truly extraordinary emerge from the whole neo-soul thing.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

the cell just confused me for the longest time. i love the future-doo-wop backing vocals on the chorus.

schlump, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

is neo-soul still a thing?

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

neoul

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

My gf is taking a class in organizational management, and one of her textbooks contains the following passage:

"The ability to reframe is one of the most powerful capacities of great artists. It can be equally powerful for managers. Undergraduates at Vanderbilt University captured this in a class-iniated rap (for best results, rap fans should imagine the rapper Common doing these lines in a neo-soul, hip-hop style):

Reframe, reframe, put a new spin on the mess you're in.
Reframe, reframe, try to play a different game.
Reframe, reframe, when you're in a tangle, shoot another angle;
look at things a different way."

xhuxk e. xheese (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I am uh on board for this, ty ILM

just, just, wishin' more of the consensus stuff, was of this calibre imo ;-)

there's no antivote to (country matters), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link

the r&b conversion, it begins

btw there's lots of A+ discussion on the general badu thread too, which has a lot of initial reactions: Erykah Badu: C /D, S&D

lex pretend, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I did say I'd be investigating hip-hop in 2009, didn't foresee being blindsided by R&B! Will check that thread...

there's no antivote to (country matters), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I apologize for not getting into this album earlier; the healer just hit permarepeat.
Retroactive p+j addition is GO

i got 51 sbs on my profile (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

thumbs up

Terius (The Reverend), Sunday, 8 March 2009 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

30,000 MEGAWATTS OF POWER BABY, RADIATING YOUR SOUL

fatedoomer (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 July 2009 08:44 (fourteen years ago) link

IT'S BIGGER THAN MY NIGGA

fatedoomer (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 July 2009 08:47 (fourteen years ago) link

TO MY FOLKS UP ON THE HILL WITH THE CAKE AND THE DOLLAR BILL

fatedoomer (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 July 2009 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link

GET YA MONEY DOLLAR BILL YALL

fatedoomer (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 July 2009 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link

SHITTY DAMN DAMN BABY BANG

fatedoomer (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 July 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

PO MAN GOT HIS BACK TO THE DOOR

fatedoomer (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 July 2009 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link

last time i listned to this it occurred to me that "Soldier" might be or even proably is about her son, still learnin new shit when I hear this, I love it so much

fatedoomer (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 July 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I wanted this album's other half to come out desperately until I realized I AM this album's other half!

sir-mounter (Eric H.), Saturday, 25 July 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link


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