Is there not yet a thread for DRIVE, the forthcoming Ryan Gosling vehicle (geddit)?

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i would've liked the chopper but it was so obviously derivative of the driver.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

i really liked this, ridiculous and sublime
all that slow tension violently punctuated, oof

and the soundtrack was great too

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Don't sell it short, there's a lot of Thief & To Live & Die in L.A. in this, too

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

I may rewatch this tonight when I get back from a hockey game, in the dark, sipping scotch if I am in the mood

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

btw I have no idea (well, some idea) why they didn't use the superior movie poster art for the cover of the home release. The DVD/BIu-Ray cover is dumb.

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

this was also fulfilling in its LA-ness, yeah, and also made me want to drive (montreal does not make me want to drive)

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

but does it make you want to Drive

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

yes
i mean no

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

hey girl

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

hahaa it took me a good 20 minutes into the film to stop mentally inserting 'hey girl' into every one of gosling's gestures. if he'd actually had any dialogue in those 20 minutes, i'm not sure i would've made it through.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

it was a good lesson for me about too much internet

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

so this director's other movies are nothing less than fucking violent, eh

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

just watched the first 19 minutes of Valhalla Rising and am not sure i can stomach the rest

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

do it!

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

aaaaagh

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

maybe if i was with someone but it is all too much to watch it alone

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

and i am the queen of watching movies alone!

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

come on over

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

srsly
wld watch from anxiety-ridding hot tub

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

proud that i really hv no idea what the 'hey girl' thing is

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

hot tub really needs a tv

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link

never thought when I saw Gosling play a Jewish neo-Nazi in his first (and only good) starring role that he'd wind up as the male A.Jolie.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

so armond

encarta it (Gukbe), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link

I don't mean Al Jolson btw

(who obv made more good movies)

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

for a movie in wide-open landscapes it can be pretty tense at times!

valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

^ assume this refers to valhalla rising? cuz a lot of drive takes place in claustrophobic interiors.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

yes, valhalla rising

valleys of your mind (mh), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

i did not watch more of it. maybe another time... in another hot tub...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

if it helps, the most violentest bits are at the beginning and the end. and some in the middle, but less.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

lol everyone is getting so good at ignoring morbs

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 12 February 2012 07:10 (twelve years ago) link

i think that means an obama re-election landslide

mehkarl (buzza), Sunday, 12 February 2012 07:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeh, cuz if we understood the morbosphere, we'd vote for romney as a big FUCK U to 2 decades of fascist dem collusion

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 07:40 (twelve years ago) link

oh suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

I think u need a morbsema

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 February 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

flattered, but...

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

There's nothing like driving in LA, btw. It's so sexy, so fun, so edgy and now. This movie really captured it. It was social realism for us Angelenos.

De La Soil (admrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

I watched this movie at midday in Alhambra

De La Soil (admrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

*poses statuesquely in macarthur park*

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

*applauds*

De La Soil (admrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

I drive a Yaris, btw

De La Soil (admrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

it'd be more helpful if you swing by next time I'm doing it and just slow tilt the camera a few times

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

Also, this movie was the movie of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIzD_M3GQvM

xp-ok

De La Soil (admrl), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

I only remember him checking a watch once, maybe twice, in the film

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

i think it was a few times - he puts it on his steering wheel

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

i appreciate the Yaris punchline, admrl

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

Drive (Nicolas Winding Refn)
I am an auteurist at heart, and as much as this film is hand-tooled and sleekly designed as a vehicle (okay, I'll stop) for Ryan Gosling, in many respects it is Winding Refn's show. This is my second encounter with the director; most of his work, although lauded in some circles, has been rooted in genres to / for which I have no allegiance and limited patience. Little dollops of the Pusher trilogy I'd catch on the IFC channel never made me want to delve; his "Tarkovskian" (?!) medieval bloodbath Valhalla Rising just looked ponderous. And the only previous film of Winding Refn's I've seen, Bronson, was an irksome disappointment. Much like Valhalla among genre buffs and the "Game of Thrones" crowd, Bronson rode in on waves of buzz. Tom Hardy's charismatic performance as Britain's most famous career criminal was, so the story went, staged like an abstract opera of performative violence. Comparisons to Kubrick and to Derek Jarman abounded. But to me, Winding Refn, and Hardy for that matter, seemed to be stuck in a mode of second-order imitation, incapable of breaking through the stylistic aping to find the spontaneity and fresh gestures that bring a picture to life on its own terms. (The thing about tableaux vivants is that they depict violent acts that have already occurred; they can inform, but they cannot threaten or thrill.)

With Drive, Winding Refn hits the magic formula. I won't make great claims for the film, save to say that it is both stark and succulent, economical and baroque. The key is that Drive replicates a strain of cinema that, in its own way, was its own replicant. The 70s car film -- Two Lane Blacktop, Vanishing Point, Dirty Mary Crazy Larry -- but also the drive-in quickie more generally, a post-Corman recasting of the L.A. noir and the gangster flick in an urban neon key, evolved into an 80s cinema that, like our hero The Driver (Gosling), became "respectable" only in retrospect. Who, at the time, gave a shit about To Live and Die in L.A., or Thief, or Street Smart? Some hardcore auteurists were ahead of the curve. But just as gangster Bernie Rose (Albert Brooks) half-jokes to the Driver, the cheap films he used to produce in the 80s were trash, but some people considered them "European." Get it? So, unlike Tarantino, whose recombinant, hash-slung hypertexts demonstrate an active thought pattern, a maneuvering between high and low as a nonstop argument, Winding Refn can lovingly recreate a cinema that was in itself reductive, sculpted around iconicity, clipped dialogue, and velocity as a formal force.

And this is why Gosling is so perfect in this role. All he has to do is brood, look pretty and semi-tough, strike poses, help the jacket catch the light. (Drive, like so many Lynch and Scorsese films, owes so much to Kenneth Anger it's absurd.) Likewise Brooks, who delivers a miraculous turn as the ambivalent, aging Jewish crime boss who, along with his brother Nino (Ron Perlman), is stuck in the Mob equivalent of middle management. In Brooks's case, Winding Refn's shrewd against-type casting allows us to witness the swallowed, passive-aggressive rage of every schlemiel unloosed like a spring-trap. Far less successful, however, is Carey Mulligan as Irene, the designated innocent female / verboten love interest. Ordinarily I would complain about the lone woman character being so poorly fleshed out, but in truth she only needed to be an emblem like everybody else. She didn't have the presence to telegraph anything more than waifishness (which, regrettably, film executives seem to get off on). Though a shocking five (!!!!) years Gosling's senior, supporting player Christina Hendricks would've been a much stronger match for Driver.

At the same time, the very quality that serves Gosling (and Winding Refn) so well in Drive is a rapidly diminishing commodity. Gosling is a highly gifted actor in the Method mold; his versatility is, in some sense, a reversibility, a penchant for projecting masculinity as either cocksure (Murder By Numbers, Blue Valentine) or existentially uncertain (The Believer, The Slaughter Rule, Half Nelson). The key, of course, is that these are two sides of the same coin. All of this hits its apotheosis with Drive, becoming almost a Sunset Strip billboard for a faded fin de siècle doomed-romantic Quiet Man. Even though Drive wasn't the box office hit or Oscar magnet its studio (or critics) thought it would be, it has entered the vernacular in more sidelong, viral ways. Fan-produced posters dot the Internet, amateur artists all finding their own way to connect Drive and Gosling to that same gritty, disreputable movie history Winding Refn plumbs for its stoic gravitas. Gosling himself, meanwhile, has become the subject of the "Hey Girl" Internet meme, his brooding visage an all-purpose come-hither that can be jokingly tied to various unlikely messages (most of them leftist / feminist but not exclusively) in order to sex them up. What all of this means, of course, is that Gosling is in serious danger of becoming a parody of himself, something halfway between an expensive prop and an ersatz James Dean.

But the reason Drive works is because, like the incarnation of Gosling it utilizes, it is never less than immaculately composed. What's more, it does more than simply cut a sleek figure across the wide screen. It moves. (The near-silent opening getaway sequence is the best argument for Winding Refn's complete success.) It is perfectly appropriate, finally, that although our putative hero is "The Driver," he is not awarded titular status. Drive is named for an action, an imperative statement, or perhaps even one of the basic psychoanalytic forces. And what both The Driver and his final journey share at the film's conclusion is that they remain ambiguous and unknowable. Their vanishing points recede into an infinite distance.

Academic Hack

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 25 February 2012 08:10 (twelve years ago) link

Friend's birthday party had tracks from this soundtrack playing here and there, reminding me that this flick was probably the one flick since "Up" maybe that's stuck in my head the longest.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Saturday, 25 February 2012 09:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=drive2011.htm

BOM lists the budget at $15M, flick has brought in like 5x worldwide that so far

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Saturday, 25 February 2012 09:07 (twelve years ago) link

agree with academic hack that christina hendricks as the main female character would have improved the film immensely. mulligan is badly miscast here and it makes the film so much weaker. i don;t like her anyway but it's not her fault that she can't play the part she's given - she would never have been in a relationship with the ex-con, it's just not believable.

jed_, Sunday, 26 February 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

relationship with the ex-con wasn't the unbelievable part imo

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 26 February 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link


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