Ive read that it's on hbo go
― Clay, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it's on hbo go
― Mordy, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/and-then-the-camera-goes-up-the-jockeys-ass-a-close-look-at-luck
― caek, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't seen the show, but that NYT descrip of "detente" btwn Milch and Mann made me laugh. They must've nearly gouged each other's eyes out.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:09 (twelve years ago) link
haha that piece was so these two guys
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
Written by David Carr (main subject in the documentary Page One), who's very Milch-ian himself.
― Burritos are one of the things I'm nostalgic about!!! (Eazy), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Renewed btw.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
niiice.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
now if he can somehow weave in john from cincinnati characters
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
that group of hairlips all work at the track now
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
Here's a good article on one of themes of the pilot episode:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1137939/index.htm
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
can't get that link to work, is it about Alydar?
― dmr, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
I don't want to say what it is due to being sort of an episode spoiler?
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
first episode has aired... i think spoilers for it are fair game now?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
Okay. It's about horse injuries.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
Levitating horse?
― Burritos are one of the things I'm nostalgic about!!! (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
was thinking surfing on horse but not sure if that realistic
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
***SPOILER***
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/specials/weirdflorida/blog/Horse_surfing.jpg
― Burritos are one of the things I'm nostalgic about!!! (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
Could it be a holy ghost horse?
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
u think u can double cross ppl or lie on ur word + ur promises LIKE OUR MUSLIM PRESIDENT FROM KENYA?!?
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
I'm loving this. And yes the birther bit was a nice touch.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 7 February 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
Dustin Hoffman + Miami Vice's Cochi Loco
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
loving John Ortiz on twitter. he seems like a bro. Escalante is the best character.
― dmr, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm starting to think that Nolte's character is gonna be this series' Ellsworth. He's even got a pooch as a sidekick.
Second episode definitely better than the first, or maybe I'm just growing into the show more. That birther bit, and that whole scene, really, was hysterical.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
thinking abt it, it's amazing how much set-up they've packed into these 1st 2 eps
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
the scene between Ace and Gus where they explained Ace's prison stint was really clunky. I guess the writers just wanted to get the whole backstory out there in one shot but it didn't really make sense to have them tell each other a drawn-out story that they both already knew.
― dmr, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
is episode 3 on HBO Go now or was it only the second ep that they put up early?
― dmr, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
just second ep. third isn't up yet.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it was jarring how out of character this was compared to everything else
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
By the way this is the Alydar story I was referring to upthread, the real-life version of the Delphi plotline. Had not ever heard about this until Luck came out.
Suspicious death
On November 13, 1990, Alydar appeared to have shattered his right hind leg in his stall at Calumet Farms in Lexington, Kentucky. Emergency surgery was performed the next day in an attempt to repair the injury, but the leg broke again. On November 15, Alydar was euthanized. At the time the owner of Calumet Farm was in dire trouble financially, and suspicions of foul play by the management were raised. John Thomas (J.T.) Lundy was indicted and convicted in 2000 on separate fraud charges and served nearly four years in prison. The farm's former attorney, Gary Matthews, was also convicted and received a 21-month prison sentence.
In Houston Federal Court, MIT Professor George Pratt testified that Alydar had to have been killed.[3] He speculated that someone had tied the end of a rope around Alydar's leg and attached the other end of the rope to a truck that could easily have been driven into the stallion barn. The truck then took off, pulling Alydar's leg from underneath him until it snapped; he testified that the force involved was at least three times that which a horse was able to exert. About five days before Alydar's injury his original night watchman, Harold "Cowboy" Kipp, testified that he was at work on the farm when he was ordered to take Tuesday, November 13th off.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alydar
Alydar was second in the 1978 Derby, Preakness and Belmont behind Affirmed, who won the Triple Crown
― dmr, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeesh. so it was like an insurance scam or?
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
allegedly yeah. but never proven it court that the death wasn't an accident.
― dmr, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
in court
liked this one better than #2.
i think i always need a good 4 or five episodes w/ milch before i get in the groove though.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
I dug this episode a lot.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
after being confounded by episode 2, gf and I have decided to let this sit on the dvr until about episode 5 or 6 to see if the immersion method improves things. Good to know people are liking it though.
― Clay, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
MZS on Episode 3 and why should stick it out
I think he's seen the whole season though.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
The most resonant scene in the episode, if you're looking for critical metaphors, is the one in which the four amigos (who name their stable 4A) go to visit Escalante, hear an itemized tutorial on what it costs to train Mon Gateau, then ask if they can get to know the animal. Escalante hands each of them a carrot and tells them how to offer it to the horse. "Keep your hand open," he warns them. The scene cuts after successive images of the four men holding out carrots and the horse regarding them warily.
^^loved this scene, especially the way it ended like that
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
Best thing about this episode: the promise that Joan Allen will be appearing in future ones.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
dont like that the derivative kid's name is nathan israel
love that they are using the bbq @ ep's end
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah that was a nice touch
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
Missed that.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
re the horse scene and the cosmicness of horse scenes in general are a strong contrast to the pettiness of the humans, def my fav thing abt the show so far
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
it dawns on them that they are meeting this horse, its a living thing that they have a connection with now and they should make some sort of gesture and they all kinda lose it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
overall my enjoyment of the show has been intermittent, feels a lil uneven idk
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
the scene w/escalante in his house w/the vet when he says you wanna do it vibed the most mannian to date, i guess he didnt direct that ep tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
otm, also i feel the symbolism of them standing with their hands open in front of an unpredictable beast after receiving a laundry list of expenses is some very cool ~foreshadowing~
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
yeah good point do they own the horse or does the horse... own them
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
i eat all your carrots i eat them up
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
irl lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:02 (twelve years ago) link