Justice - † Pretentious symbol = french dance?

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baaderonixx, Sunday, 13 May 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

fetchboy and all those seconding him - speaking as someone who has heard the whole thing, your instinct is spot on

(nb 'waters of nazareth' is still awesome and there is actually one other good song! near the end. called 'stress' or something like that. but the rest of it is exactly what you suspect it is)

lex pretend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Justice with decent bass? You might be waiting a while, dude.

Erm, I was joking. My thoughts on Justice are well-documented.

Matt DC, Sunday, 13 May 2007 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link

this thread is cantankerous

696, Sunday, 13 May 2007 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link

this thread walk around the place and a screw up the face

696, Sunday, 13 May 2007 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

who put the ball in the germans net?
who put the ball in the germans net?
who put the ball in the germans net?
STEVE SHASTA!

696, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

gumpy old men

blueski, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

jed, i bit and clicked on the link, but couldn't get past 'stress'. i remember actually enjoying 'genesis', but then it got real samey real quick. and yes blueski, this shit makes me feel old because i can totally see teh kids rocking out to it.

Jena, Sunday, 13 May 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i like the way it comes up as the first album, and correctly displayed at that, on my iPod :-)

first listen, about half (in the middle) is meh to interesting, but the other half is exciting squealy stuff. i think (apart from the 'meh') that this might be intentional. a lot of the songs (not the last one!) have distinct codas - more distinct than any verse/chorus/verse structure. it's all very prog. but not like progressive house.

Alan, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

and yes blueski, this shit makes me feel old because i can totally see teh kids rocking out to it.

as long as i love lil' mama and mims, i will not feel old or at all removed from the kidz

lex pretend, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link

uffie track is a low point, which is annoying.

Alan, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link

pretty boring/painful past the stuff already released as singles, huh

nervous, Monday, 14 May 2007 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i know this joke is getting old, but i'm very serious when i say this album is great to jog to

cutty, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link

'D.A.N.C.E.' piano bits are similar to the piano bits early on in '45:33'

blueski, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

cutty otm

strongohulkington, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm assuming

strongohulkington, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

what i've heard so far is great! i'm not that old yet right

daria-g, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i love justice! in fact, i'm mad that they've abandoned the heavy metal shit for crappy filter disco. DEATH TO DISCO.

strongohulkington, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i must try liking LCD soundsystem again

Alan, Monday, 14 May 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Uffie's vocal on 'The Party' if only because it reminds me of the long forgotten Q-Tee.

Billy Dods, Monday, 14 May 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

kids today are trashy and stupid.

that said i have a feeling this justice album would have been better if it was more in touch w/ current trendy stuff and less in touch w/ braxe circa 1998.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

IOW strongo OTM

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't heard it yet (how you people have time to actually download music these days I'll never know chortle) but i'm surprised if it does have real Braxe similarity.

blueski, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

uffie's vocal is ok (but less 'insistent' somehow) but it's the track behind it that has little going for it.

Alan, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

less braxe and more etienne de crecy, but yes, it actually sounds like filter disco.

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Q-Tee FOREVER!

Spencer Chow, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

to crib a joke from zack galafinakis:

the personalized license plate for this album should be ISUXDIX

The Macallan 18 Year, Monday, 14 May 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

which of course stands for: I SUre Xylophone, Do I Xylophone.

The Macallan 18 Year, Monday, 14 May 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

hey wait a second ... this is GREAT

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

A++++++++++++++++++++++++++

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I really like the Justice album, although I'm sure if I heard this stuff in a club I would leave.

braveclub, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i've listened to this more than i did discovery at the time. best of discovery better than the best of this tho (obv?). the uffie one is really annoying me tho.

Alan, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

having lived with this for a while now i really love it

strongohulkington, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

(except the uffie track, obv)

strongohulkington, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i've listened to this more than i did discovery at the time. best of discovery better than the best of this tho (obv?). the uffie one is really annoying me tho.

-- Alan, Friday, May 25, 2007 3:02 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

whoa wtf

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

nope, this is still total shit

lex pretend, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

hey the lex d.a.n.c.e. is pretty good

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i've heard it, i hate it

lex pretend, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

why?

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

have only heard "d.a.n.c.e."

I can't stand Justice because of the people I know that like them. I know this is not logical or right.

Though I guess I don't like the music of theirs that I've heard either.

Ronan, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i felt the same way until i saw that video of them playing in ... chicago? where they're under the green light? wearing leather jackets? and bobbing in slow-motion to "waters of nazareth"? that was just impossibly cool, and helped me realize that justice really is REAL DANCE.

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

you know i'm not actually that keen on waters of nazareth myself.

btw, i should have said up the way, that i tended to skip about on Discovery a lot - i liked some tracks a LOT and the rest, it all as an album, i wasn't actually that gonzo for. i've been playing this through start to end a lot (well in the form i have it anyway).

Alan, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm trying to decide if I'd like Justice if I was 18.

I probably wouldn't like myself. More!

Ronan, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

When I said indie I didn't mean indie really I suppose. I hate using genres to describe what I like and I was too lazy to name some artists but I'll rectify that now. Spiritualized, Mogwai, Ryan Adams, Whiskeytown, Dan the Automator, The Chemical Brothers, Will Oldham, Nick Drake, Primal Scream, Doves, Super Furry Animals, Spacemen 3, Simian, Slint, Tortoise, Public Enemy, Autechre, Jon Carter, Leftfield, Orbital, Miles Davis, I could go on all day. I'm not part of the indie scene at all really I suppose. Yes I may be a freak for having music as my sole interest but in a social sense other people who really like music are off the fucking wall, cut themselves, or whatever they do. Also these people tend to like shite music so perhaps my problem is that noone likes the bands I like either. The hell I have putting on a cd when I have mates around. It could be to do with me being 18, who knows. yes the message board may just help, I'm not quite suicidal yet

-- Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:00 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

A typical indie kid vicar? Find me some fucking typical indie kids who like alternative country and I'll make you very rich. It said Ryan Adams not Bryan Adams, theres a difference. I see you live in Ireland too, have you any idea how fucking difficult it is to even buy a Whiskeytown cd here? I had to spend 30 quid on one fucking Will Oldham CD, and I've paid that for Spacemen 3 stuff aswell, its certainly worth it but christ if thats what everyone else is doing then I must be living under a rock or something, I don't care about liking weird stuff for the sake of it being weird, I just want to find some people who like the same stuff that I get on with, given the points I made about the bands above its pretty unlikely without the internet.

-- Ronan Fitzgerald, Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:00 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

careful!

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i just like 'theres a difference'

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Spiritualized, Mogwai, Ryan Adams, Whiskeytown, Dan the Automator, The Chemical Brothers, Will Oldham, Nick Drake, Primal Scream, Doves, Super Furry Animals, Spacemen 3, Simian, Slint, Tortoise, Public Enemy, Autechre, Jon Carter, Leftfield, Orbital, Miles Davis

hmmm ... poll idea germinating ...

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 25 May 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

poll [ends 5-27]

o Bryan Adams
o Ryan Adams
o theres a difference?

and what, Friday, 25 May 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, that. So anyways, Justice just released a really good rock album that's better than † and getting some positive press. Loving "New Lands".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKuWUT7UCKM

Spinspin Sugah, Monday, 24 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

yeah - fans of the last album seem to be getting in a jiff about it, but it's kind of neat in that it kinda sounds like Yes or Camel or Styx or something stupid like that. dunno how I feel about it yet.

frogbs, Monday, 24 October 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

Fans have yet to repent their brostep sins. You have to approach this album like you never heard the last one.

Spinspin Sugah, Monday, 24 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Very cool. I like it. My wife and I have matching JB tattoos. I have the sheet music for the main riff of Bridge To Better Days on my rib cage and my wife has it a little smaller on her side also.

brimstead, Sunday, 7 June 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link

lol wrong thread.

brimstead, Sunday, 7 June 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link

ahaha perfect

bag lady bag (mattresslessness), Sunday, 7 June 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

new track here:
http://www.justice.church/

it has a nice bass groove, but they need to dig themselves out of this mid-tempo malaise if they ever want to excite people again.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, the cross record had an anxiety and danger to it that made it compelling. Haven't heard them do anything else with that feeling.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

Was just listening to cross the other day in fact, holds up pretty well.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

I agree. OTOH, I don't think I ever need to hear the 2nd album again.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

I was listening to the 2nd Anniversay Get Physical mix again the other day, specifically "Our World (Our Music)" and thinking "this song is just perfect".

where has this been all my life

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

i disagree. i like the new song (its a bit RAM/HAA daft punk). dont necess need to hear them go into full distortion mode.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 14 July 2016 09:36 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

really love the new album.
hits a lot of my aural sweet spots.
yes, the intense overdriven synths are no longer there, but thats what the debut album was all about.
the new one has some gorgeous production layers for headphones, and flows beautifully as a complete album.
the excess of strings and love of AOR actually reminds me of the midnight juggernauts in parts.
no doubt it will flop and sink without trace (no EOY lists due to the release date), but hey ..

mark e, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

it's an improvement over the last one at least. They no longer seem to be convinced that they should be a rock band.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

i never heard the second album, but out of a pokemon type need, i will now have to track it down.

mark e, Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

it's not great

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

so i see from your previous posts.
but i have no problem with electronic bands trying 70s prog.
see juan trip, air ...

mark e, Thursday, 24 November 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

on my second listen now and it's quite....good?? I dunno I never actually liked Cross much and didn't give AVD much of a chance. this is sounding pretty sweet though.

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

mark's description definitely intrigues me... totally interested in hearing juan trip now as well

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 1 December 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link


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