"He owns eleven pairs of sneakers, hasn't worn anything but jeans in a year, and won't shut up about the latest Death Cab For Cutie CD. But he is no kid. He is among the ascendant breed of grown-up w

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The anecdotes about the jeans were really horrifying.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

you didn't get your check? (xpost)

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

be sure to bring that up next time some internet booster is arguing there is no dividing line between "real" journalism, blogs, message boards, and what have you

grup, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

the whole Ingalls on Little House on the Prairie dug the same music (Mr. Edwards on fiddle!)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

christ there's a world of difference between paid print journalism and internet blatherings (as we can tell from the anonymous forcefulness of your bullshit)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man, I'm so gruppy. I own the first Nils CD on Profile.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

A former boss once tried to convince me (at least half-jokingly) that having kids was great because you could indoctrinate them any way you wanted, giving as an example the fact that she'd taught her young daughter to say, "Miles Davis is cool."

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

(Also, why is it always Death Cab for Cutie any more? I'm glad I don't really know what they sound like.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

So is this just the collective attempt of 30s-40s men to get into the pants of college girls?

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's the effort of mid-20s writers to get into the pants of college girls by getting their names in magazines, even if it means stupid articles like this.

mitya's new york minute (mitya), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link

someone totally needs to make a killing joke baby rock star shirt

latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I kind of imagined that in my forties, I would be shilling for my generation's Marah or what-have-you, being like, "What I love about them is that I can hear everything I ever loved about rock music in their recordings and in their live shows." Also, I would be wearing slacks about the house on weekends, at least when I'm not gardening or repairing a bird feeder.

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

"I kind of imagined that in my forties, I would be shilling for my generation's Marah or what-have-you"

haha and complaining about Radiohead records being too "difficult"

latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, and the very hippest of the Grups listens to: "Seminal bands you've never heard of(Montreal's the Nils; Bronx rappers Diamond & the Psychotic Neurotics)"

if this were the case, the story wouldn't make the grups seem so lame... but the only groups the author manages to namedrop (and with alarming frequency, i'll add) are franz ferdinand and bloc party. that's like saying, 'wow, ppl in their 30s listen to NPR!'.

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I read this last week. I actually kind of liked and sympathized with the part about wanting to do something interesting for a job, something that you give a shit about rather than wearing a suit and doing something boring for 40 hours a week until you're 65.

Then again, that's probably easy to say when you're loaded enough to spend $200 on a shitty haircut, $600 on jeans, and have enough loot to own a loft in Manhattan. I don't have, nor do I want, any of these things. I'm just tired of my job and want to do something different.

joygoat (joygoat), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

u can't hate people for being useless

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link

God damn I miss that Nick Sylvester thread.

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck this shit.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

If a child had a Cannibal Corpse t-shirt on I think I'd report them to child services.

gruppin (Mr. Silverback), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I know six people! It's a TREND!

(Hey, you think the "average New Yorker" lives in a million dollar loft?)

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

average price of apartment in manhattan=$1.3 million

hmm, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:55 (eighteen years ago) link

baby Pansy Division t-shirts here:

http://www.babywit.com/bands_1old.html

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

HI DERE

zappi (joni), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link

have any of you ever been to portland OR?

hjfdkz, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link

This article reads like a long Onion piece. Is this shit serious?

chad (chad), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck this guy. I'm 33, a father of two and this shit is so far removed from my reality it blows my mind. Have these people ever worked a day in their lives? Is a twat a twat forever?

chad (chad), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link

haven't people been talking about 'middle youth' for years now?

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I am actually sitting here in a pair of snazzy new converses, an old gap hoodie and jeans and i'm 41. I never carry a carrier bag though. But why shouldn't I be comfortable?

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Over in England, they’re now calling them yindies

I've never heard anyone say this--people do use kidult though.

Raw Patrick at work, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

no, i've never heard yindies, but 'kidult' and 'middle youth' were current at least as early as 1998.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Over in England we're calling them 'Nathan Barleys'

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Over in England we're calling them 'cunts'

Raw Patrick at work, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen adultescent used.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link

That sounds like something from a paedo chatboard.

Raw Patrick at work, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe that's where I saw it.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I am so not a cunt.
I think we're confusing two types here. There's the lovely, stay at home dad type who happens to use the internet and likes all kinds of music (country AND western), tries to keep up with what's going on and then there's the Nathan Barley types who are much younger, usually single, work in 'new media' and are, often, not very nice. Both tyoes where similar clothes possibly (trainers/jeans/etc.) but the later spend a much larger proportion of their income on their clothes than former because they don't have kids/mortgages/interior decorators to pay.
Or something.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Typing too fast - it should be "types wear"...obv.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

“My mom bought me a cool shirt/When I wear it, I’m...”

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

This whole thing kinda reminds me of the crowds that show up to all the KCRW sponsored shows in LA.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

In the end, these people are just aspiring to be hipster jackasses. Keep reaching for those stars in the gutter.

Wow. Nei1 Pol1ack is a fucking idiot.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

ahhh, the passage of time....
can ya hear it????
i can.
it sounds like a train.

eedd, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah but least Alex doesn't have the Motorhead shirt on the kid...

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

tiresome new york mag article ridiculing people not quite as boring as they are = classic!!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The only thing is, why is the article just focused on hipster's "kidult" fashion....pretty much everybody dresses in jeans and t-shirts now outside of work....he could say the same thing abt. 38 yr old dudes w/kids walking around with the Larry the Cable Guy "Git R Done" shirt...I mean, Americans dress like shit, everybody dresses casual....I even notice this w.my sisters family, I think the whole family all listen to the same contemporary country like that Sugarland (???) band and Kenny Chesney that my 4-yr-old neice does...this stuff exists outside of manhattan.*

*my bro-in-law never wears larry the cable guy shirts, just to clarify, he has nice clothes.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

(of course though I forget that to new yorkers the entire planet is manhattan so i shouldn't really be surprised)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys let your kids listen to songs with lines like "the band were fuckin' wank"?
-- yuengling participle (pton_mwaa...), April 7th, 2006 3:44 PM.

Not intentionally, no. Apparently my wife hasn't discovered that particular f-bomb... the heavy Sheffield accent helps I guess. I must thank you, sir, for saving my family from this insidious overseas threat.

Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Although both the wife and I are not above drop-the-volume/skip-the-track machinations around the small ones.

Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

My dad (1947) played a lot of southern rock (ZZ Top, Allmans, not so much Skynyrd) and yacht-rock/Steely Dan. When I was a little older, I remember coming home from school and he'd be watching Yo MTV Raps or something. Also a big fan of the B-52s and Dee-Lite hits of the late-80s/early-90s.

The only music I can remember my mom (1951) listening to was Phil Collins solo and Enya. She liked those Gregorian Chants CDs, but I don't remember when that phase was.

Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Your dad sounds cool.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 7 April 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Looky, the clue train is rolling in, and it has some messages for Adam Sternbergh and his stunted view of the world, skewed by his idea that a small percentage of affluent, hip, narcissistic, hyperconsumer fashion victims in Manhattan and Brooklyn are somehow representative of Americans, or even humanity.

It does bear noting that the magazine is called New York, not America or Humanity.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 10 April 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

With GRUPS, you can be anyone you want -- an elf hero fighting for the forces of good, a shadowy femme fatale on a deep-cover mission, a futuristic swashbuckler carving up foes with a force sword in his hand and a beautiful woman by his side . . . or literally anything else!

smokemon (eman), Monday, 10 April 2006 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

haha.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 10 April 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

xx-post - slow applause for Matos

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 10 April 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

my fucking dad started it, still listening to frank sinatra well into his 40s, like didn't he know that stuff's for teenagers?

dr x o'skeleton, Monday, 10 April 2006 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

These are apparently the people who don't want to work for the man and who put Misfits t-shirts on their toddler.

Oh shit, I was just gonna place an order. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 10 April 2006 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone on this board NOT have baby boomer parents who played the Beatles for them from birth?

My parents were born in 1929. My dad played Hank Williams for me from birth. They didn't like the Beatles, except for "Yesterday." Around 1971, whenever I played Emerson Lake & Palmer's debut (faux classical piano) or Savoy Brown's Raw Sienna (w/clumsy bigband horn arrangements) my mom would knock on my bedroom door and ask "what's that you're listening to? do you call that rock?"

how many people were actually listening to Joy Division and Killing Joke in the 80s?

of course. hmmm. maybe I am too old for this place?

ILM is my midlife crisis (lovebug starski), Monday, 10 April 2006 09:23 (eighteen years ago) link

xx-post - slow applause for Matos
-- joseph cotten (josephcotte...), April 9th, 2006

and here I thought I was actually making a point, albeit an oblique one.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe I am too old for this place?

Nonsense. If anything, we're all too young.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks Ned. I was like, "were they all listening to Raffi then?"

Not only did my parents not like the Beatles I'm sure neither one of them wore a pair of bluejeans in the entire lives. That changed with the baby boomers, where parents and their children started wearing the same clothes as well as listening to the same music. The previous generation dressed like grownups even when they were dressing down. And their parents, my grandparents' generation, forget about it. Old people looked a lot older back in the day, it's hard to explain, just check out a vintage photo of Eisenhower or Harry Truman. That's what my grandafthers looked like.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

luke's little brainiac daughter totally called him a grup in the last episode of the gilmore girls. and then she explained the star trek reference. and at the end of the show they played angst in my pants by sparks. just thought i'd throw that in there. it may catch on yet!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

god remember when death cab for cutie were a thing? oy. that was the year this country lost its innocence. it only took four years for them to be completely erased from a nation's collective memory. until today. shit, sorry...

scott seward, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought you hated the indica & were swearing it off

honkin' on joey kramer (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 15 November 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, man. Gurps is like my Velocity Girl.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, April 6, 2006 3:10 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

i am dying here

not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 15 November 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

"I thought you hated the indica & were swearing it off"

i gave it away! i AM listening to Barefoot Jerry sing their 1975 hit "Hero Frodo" right now though.

scott seward, Monday, 15 November 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link


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