Madvillain vs. Quasimoto

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (49 of them)
I agree; I like Unseen, in fact.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Better beats = Unseen
Better raps = Madvillainy

Madvillain is in my top ten this year.

The Unseen was in my top ten in 2000.

But while Doom is definitely a better rapper than Madlib, Madlib's raps fit the mold of Unseen so naturally that it has this old-school, awkward charm to it. It works really well to me and makes for a really great album. And while I still know some hip-hop heads who fucking hate The Unseen because they can't get past the high-pitched voice, it isn't like the shit was a bedroom CD-R or something. People heard it.

Better than Doom though? Don't push it, homie.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

here's a comment, and i'm not sure if it's a negative one or a possitive one, but so many of the samples on the Unseen are very obvious. i'm not the hugest beat digger, but i've already got a bunch of the records used for this. Axelrod/ Electric Prunes, Eugene McDaniels, Oneness of Juju, Galt McDermot, Ronnie Laws, Don Cherry, Gary Bartz

and dunno if it's a rumor or not, but i heard from a pretty big LA digger that Madlib uses Ultimate Breaks albums to sample from rather than finding the original albums. but that's neither here nor there.

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

SCANDALOUS!!!

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

shut yr pie hole.

anyways, if his whole album is him talking about being a loopdigger, and going to jazz stores, and listing his fave labels and artists, and then to use non-original copies of songs, and not actually doing his legwork, kinda lame

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I doubt that Madlib uses the Ultimate Breaks albums. When I visited the Stones Throw headquarters last year - where Madlib records most of his records - the entire two story house and basement was lined (top to bottom) with vinyl and Ultimate Breaks was not among them. I know that doesn't refute that altogether, but he definitely has a large catalog at his disposal.

And I probably prefer Madvillain.

Off-topic: his production on the new De La single is unexpected.

s>c> (s.c.), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess. But I find the whole concept of being a loopdigger to be lame, and even lamer those who police the loopdiggers a la your pretty big LA beatdigger. Cause really, who cares?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

but that would mean that claiming to be a loopdigga and then not engage in the digga of the loop would be even more lame. however, i've been around the internet long enough to take anything I hear third hand with a shitload of salt.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

so apparently Madlib has also made a broken beat record?

"In the liner notes, he namechecks 4 Hero, IG Culture, Carl Craig, Theo Parrish, and 'the whole West London Sound,' but this is no mere tribute record."

wtf mate

ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Thursday, 30 September 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

as far as i'm concerned both records employ unconventional lyricism over trademark Madlib beats

What is a ''trademark Madlib beat,'' i.e., what's so distinctive about it?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 March 2008 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

madvillain is better just for the fact it doesnt have madlib rapping on it.

ps - what are peoples thoughts on madvillainy 2 (the madlib remixes at least, not the album proper)? i really wanted to like it but thought it was a bit ho-hum.

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

wtf
http://youtu.be/jovsxh8FeYo

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

argh fuck this

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

wow, that was much better than i expected it to be.

bass, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

the lyrics actually suit this kinda crazy loose composition and singing pretty well

bass, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

bump

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 4 May 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

six years pass...

nice interview w/ doom on the 15th anniversary of madvillainy https://www.spin.com/featured/mf-doom-madvillain-interview-madvillainy-anniversary/

ogmor, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 10:41 (five years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.