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cutty, we all know you watch Alan Partridge.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i think he was actually referring to the pedestrianisation of the city centre shopping district - all of the streets around the cathedral are paved over for ease of walking and commerce.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

And as for my opinion, I like it, but I am ignorant of how it was before then.

All city centres should be pedestrianised, and thus Norwich outs itself as a "sleeper" progressive city, once again.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.gators.com/

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Did they ever pedestrianize the city center?
http://hem.passagen.se/mrbungle/partridge/alaninstudio.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I just posted that without reading the last few posts=I'm lame.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

That'll teach you!

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

classic spencer

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

cashback

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

back of the net

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

lovely stuff

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey does anybody in England know a 40-ish guy named G@V1N $N3LL from Norwich?
If so, e-mail me. He had to leave CA suddenly and I'm trying to get in touch.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

sounds like a long shot

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah I'm sure that's a pretty common name, oh well.
Can't hurt to ask.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

oh wait HE'S HALF BURMESE and named that. Might narrow it down?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link

SNAKE or MOUNTAIN DOG?

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

hahahahahaha

Burma as in Myanmar

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I went there with my mum to so some family history research, shortly before the library burned down.

It seemed quite nice.

A jaunty Dr Robert comeback single came on the radio on our way home.

It was found to be the most racist town in Britain.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, the new library is incredibly beautiful. I got stoned and wandered around in it for like six hours once. Class act.

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

"new" library?

I returned once to see the new sports centre. I took my mother in law.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

the library isn't by the lecture theatre/cinema any more?

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd like to get a job in the new library.

youn, Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I had a job in Norwich, delivering/collecting bags for Oxfam. I hated it.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

The university is full of students from North America and Scandinavia. I like it.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I also worked for the university tv station for a while, I can't remember the name.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I have only seen one of my classmates since. His film studies MA has landed him a starring role in the Oxford St Virgin Megastore sales team.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

In the course of investigating Norwich, I found this, the worst blog in the world

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know. The guy certainly has a striking design sense.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

s: ian crook, keith o'neill, chris sutton, efen ekoku, darren huckerby, delia smith.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

UEA TV station: Nexus (I think)

Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

YES! Nexus

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I was born there, so that makes it clasic.
I don't really like it though, so that makes it dud...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 5 August 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Good god, I showed up on Nexus one week, drunk as a sailor and propounding on the subject of Fassbinder and Herzog for some scripted call-in show about movies and shit. All I remember is comparing Tarentino to a hummingbird and Herzog to a hedgehog, and getting a lot of angry responses.

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Destroy: Carrow Road, Delia Smith, Ewan Roberts, Darren Huckerby, Craig Bellamy et al.

When I still lived in Ipswich I used to pop up a fair bit for gigs, and they have probably the best record shops in East Anglia (not saying much, however). The place seems to have stagnated a bit in the last 10 years, with less variety in the city centre, but overall If I was forced to live in East Anglia again I would probably have to choose Naaaridge despite their funny speaking ways, too many toes, and laughable “have a little scrimmage” song.

So, overall, dussic.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link

OH MY GOD ALBA!!!!

http://www.the-dot.org/node?from=45

is truly the worst blog evereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverevereverever

ENRQ, Friday, 6 August 2004 08:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not sure that's really a blog as such. It looks more like some sort of agglomeration of other blogs to me. But yeah, er, not very high quality is it?

Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: Pedro's mexican restaurant. My fella (he comes from there and went to UEA too). Kier Hardie Hall for total Phoenix Nights-esque working men's club action (we take my mum-in-law). The Arts Centre.

Destroy: Well, pretty much everything else. Dull as ditchwater town centre. Pikey/racist/wife-beating/drink-driving culture. Kaito.

Mog, Friday, 6 August 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link

It is some kind of group blog. Very much like nylpm.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam - your film MA pal isn't T0m L4ngl4nd5, is it?

I did film as a minor and remember doing an interminable seminar on silent comedy, led by a German guy (Peter something?) who had no discernable sense of humour. I also remember Higson getting very upset when all the students took the piss out 60s avantgarde cinema he loved. I did a course with Audrey Medhurst and he dissed me for wearing a Sugarcubes t-shirt. He was a sweetie, however.

I have very fond memories of Norwich:

* the Dolphin pub down near the river at the end of Old Palace Road;
* Pizza One and Pancakes Two;
* Cinema City;
* the pitch and putt course;
* Sunday lunches in pubs around the Golden Triangle.

I don't miss Fifer's Lane, however.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Ch4rles B4rr emailed me t'other week! Was the German gut Thomas Elsaesser?

ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha yes it was. He had an astonishing haircut in 1990 - I think he inspired Sideshow Bob.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link

He's quite a forbidding writer, did a book on the old New German Cinema with nary a joke or personal remark in 400pp. But good.

ENRQ, Friday, 6 August 2004 08:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I went to Norwich once, in 1987. I had just finished my 'O' levels and went to stey with a relative who lived there. I remember going to a pub called the Hog in Armour, which was Sam Smiths, although I could not enjoy a pint of Extra Stout or Old Brewery Bitter on account of my age. I suppose it must've been the first Sam Smiths pub I ever went to. I don't think the Jolly German had put in an appearance at that stage.

Liked the museum in the castle in the centre. It had a stuffed capercaillie. I had not heard of this monster grouse previously.

Bands? I know of 2 bands from Norwich - Kaito and Bearsuit. I have seen both live - liked the first, hated the latter.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Norwich is really pretty! I have always enjoyed playing there, it's a fun town, good scene, lovely people. (For some reason the locals are really into story-telling, and very good at it.) Plus, the Treehouse Cafe for yummy vegetarian food. Great architecture, especially that strange all-glass library thing off the marketplace.

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: Treehouse Cafe, Hog in Armor, Adam and Eve, Murderers, the new library, watching the annual Star Trek convetion, LCR at UEA
Destroy: Mean teenagers in the newly-pedestrian downtown, the messed-up bus schedule, boring Saturdays.

x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

ENRQ and JtN - yes, those people all taught me, but Thomas Elsaesser and Peter (aaaaaargh, it's on the tip of my tongue) are two different people. Peter "something" is the guy with the red nose and crazy haircut.

Adam - your film MA pal isn't T0m L4ngl4nd5, is it?
no, it isn't. The name sounds familiar.

Higson got very upset when people walked out during Wavelength. He also gave me a fascinating private lecture on the rich tradition of Finnish "log films", epic working class family dramas that often take place primarily on logs floating down wide Scandinavian rivers.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 7 August 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Peter KRAMER, that's it!

"He had an astonishing haircut in 1990 - I think he inspired Sideshow Bob."

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 7 August 2004 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link

s: kaitO & bearsuit.
d: brian gunn.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 August 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't like Bearsuit when I saw them at Bush Hall. Too much screaming.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 7 August 2004 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Of course! Kramer!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

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the pinefox, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, and the LCR. Looking as grim and grey as I remember...

they call him (remy bean), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

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the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

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the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

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the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i love these, pinefox

they call him (remy bean), Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Daytripping in Norwich next month on the way from Edinburgh via Alton Towers on the way to Stalham to see family. Much worth seeing? Last time I was in Norwich I went to Maplin, a book shop were my bro bought a copy of The Wire, and sat in a pub for a couple of hours. Couldn't even tell you which one.

CraigG, Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank you Remy Bean, I appreciate that.

One day in Norwich = lots to see, if you want it.

Cathedral + Castle are top of the proper sights charts.

Other parts of the city would mean more to individuals like me who have a Norwich past, might not to others. Castle Meadow's bus stops for instance. But still, many could be interested in

Carrow Road
The riverside walk to and from it, if still accessible
Adam & Eve pub, near river and cathedral I think
Catholic Cathedral immense at end of Earlham Road, by footbridge over rushing cars of Grapes Hill
Chapelfield Gardens, Eaton Park are nice enough if you want a park
UEA is a significant site of architecture
Sainsbury Centre at UEA ditto and has art and exhibitions
Norwich Market is venerable and local
North of the market, nowadays called 'the lanes': trad medieval streets of interesting shops
including Head in the Clouds, UK's first head shop (whatever that is really)

Pubs: tremendous. I was amazed at the range and quality of real ales here, vs any town I can think of.

Bookshops: Ellis (old and great), Bookhive (new and acclaimed).

Overall I would say that if you have any inclination at all to find a medieval English town interesting and attractive, you will like this one. If you're just not into such places at all, you might not.

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

(I could recommend 5 or 10 pubs in particular)

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

The Alexandra
Eaton Cottage
The Plough
The Reindeer
Golden Star
Wildman

10 Bells (though beer less great)
Bike Shop + Workshop are recommended, haven't been in
+ Adam & Eve

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

The Plough is a key place to look out for if in city centre - new, make their own good beer I think, with big garden

Alexandra is among the pick further out West

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool cool. I'll definitely wander by Carrow road, but hopefully we'll have made automatic promotion by then, and not stuck in the playoffs (though, potential to pay crazy amounts of money for a playoff ticket...). Expect it will mostly be a day of wandering about the town - of all my childhood trips to Norwich I don't remember ever going to the cathedral - then pubs.

CraigG, Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

You're a Norwich City supporter?

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Yip, born in Norwich, but never really lived there. So they're my team :)

CraigG, Thursday, 21 April 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

wildman is great, but i also used to love murderer's. it's nearly as old as adam and eve, and a bit more convenient.

they call him (remy bean), Thursday, 21 April 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's the first Norwich pub I ever drank in - so it has a bit of a special place for me; and I like its little hillside location. Went back there one Saturday in 2002 as I recall.

Look it up online though, and you'll see it's become a bit confusing - now has two names, and apparently a load of murderer gear, which is probably not necessary.

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Think I only ever went in the Wildman once - and in those days it was two words, Wild Man!

Actually barely ever been in Adam & Eve.

Tombland pubs OK if not too crowded? Mischief, Edith Cavell I think, Lawyer used to be there, Ribs of Beef. One or two fond memories of those; but might just be average pubs now.

The fact that you can have this discussion about Norwich, though, tells you a lot about the place.

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Where else compares, for quantity, number, quality, character of pubs / bars?

OK, London - or parts of it, the City for instance.
New York, ditto: maybe LE Side, Brooklyn.
Glasgow, the West End, possibly
and of course, Dublin is a special case.
And Paris is good for brasseries, wine bars.

But those are all bigger cities. Compare Norwich to Northampton, Exeter, even Manchester, Newcastle, Edinburgh - I reckon it would come out well ahead on pubs for its size (with quality of beer and character of pub in mind, again).

Cambridge and Oxford seem like decent alternative contenders.

the pinefox, Thursday, 21 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

So I think I'm coming here in April, which I seem to find funny since 99% of everything I know about Norwich is from Alan Partridge.

First question, has the city centre actually been pedestrianised?

ed.b, Saturday, 31 January 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link


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