Black Dice - Mr. Impossible

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(that wasn't the feature - just a lark)

at this point it's sort of "dice bein' dice" more or less. i love how they've more or less just invented their own sub-genre apart from the rest of music, like a little sandbox they fuck about in largely independent of everything else

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 27 January 2012 03:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I'm digging this, though it does seem kind of like a final refinement of what they've been doing on the last couple of albums (including that Shepard tone thing going on in 'The Jacker' that I'm sure they've done at least once before). I wouldn't mind listening to iterations of this forever but it would be nice for them to shoot off in a whole other direction again next.

michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 10:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I like it. Didn't bother with Load Blown or Repo because I didn't like Broken Ear Record, but this is fun.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Beaches & Canyons and Creature Comforts are still amazing of course.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

this album came just about the right time that I was thinking about finally checking these guys out

the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone seen them live off this album yet? thinking of going friday but might go to something else

flopson, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd really like to know more about the set-up they use for each album. I'd always assumed they used a traditional rock formation + pedals/effects, but watching a video for REPO, it seems it's nearly all electronics, but then on this one I an def hear guitars etc...

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think bjorn has always played guitar (with a bunch of effects and other things), but aaron and eric have been pretty much all electronics/pedals/effects since cc.

mizzell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I always assumed they were a deconstructed rock band, and that was part of the appeal for me. But then I see three guys futting around with a bunch of knobs and levers and for some reason it cheapens the deal for me. Can't help thinking that anyone can make a bunch of squelchy noises on a circuit-bent board, but whatever...

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk, maybe that's why b&c and cc are so great?

anyone can play guitar too.

mizzell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have seen them live twice in the last six months and their live show is really in another stratosphere lately.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Anyone up for catching their London show on 4th October in Dalston? It's the day before my birthday and I'm psyched to be going, but don't really have any friends who are fans and would rather not go on my own.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 11:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm really curious to see where they'll go next. it's a good record but nothing new, altho more a refinement then the frustrating regressions of Centipede Hz. where can they go from here?

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've always liked Eric Copeland's solo work better than BD, but it was the same case with his LP Limbo this year, a refinement but not any progression from his previous work. haven't listened to either much at all long after the release.

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it is quite different from Repo even. If Repo = hiphop, Mr. Impossible = breaks.

I didn't know there was Copeland solo stuff.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah dude you gotta check out alien in a garbage dump, strange days, and hermaphrodite. plus he's released like eight 7 inches in the past two years.

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

limbo too

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Bi 7" is cool too

wk, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

alien in a garbage dump

^^ this one is especially great. don't care musch for 'hermaphrodite', tbh

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've seen mad used copies of this floating around

what's the diff between this and load blown / repo

i kinda tuned out after evil butt music

the late great, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

more similar to load blown than repo imo. not as junky sounding. all the tracks are pretty straightforward and feel like 'dice being dice' as ray said. definitely check it out if you're a fan of their post CC work. FWIW i don't like broken ear record at all, and far prefer load blown and on to beaches & canyons etc.

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

eric's solo work is a must listen though for any BD fans

just my O but -

LP's: Alien in a Garbage Dump > Strange Days > Limbo > Hermaphrodite > Waco Taco Combo

singles: Doo Doo Run > Get Along > Puerto Rican > BYOB (w/ DJ Dog Dick) > Flushing Meats > Car Alarm > Whorehouse Blues

everything is pretty rad tho

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Going to their show tomorrow night in Amsterdam. Never seen them before. Looking forward to it.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to the London show on Thursday! I've never seen em either.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 11:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, just got back from their show. Really great. I don't think you'll be disappointed at all. So convinced that their one of the truly great bands from the past decade. Amazing.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bit of a serious crowd, but it was alright. I was smiling (big grin!) all the way through their take on different dance genres: d'n'b, gabba, breaks, disco/funk, etc.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

any new songs?

spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wut? Songs? I dunno. Was a wash of pop-dance-stoner-rock tracks, clearly delivered from a noise basis. Recognized a few moments from the new record, but there were lots of pseudo-improv segues, the whole set was non-stop. I assume that's their normal approach.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

they are good live these days

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fuck you Dalston, if I want to dance, I'll dance - stop fucking fucking fucking crossing your arms and glaring at me for that. Black dice were nothing short of incredible - like a complete dj set of awesome dance music. Crowd were largely cuntbags who didn't understand this. A big room full of dicks. I'm 32 today. Whoop!

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 5 October 2012 01:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

> So convinced that they're one of the truly great bands from the past decade. Amazing.

Having seen them for a decade now in Brooklyn, this is truth.

beta blog, Friday, 5 October 2012 01:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Hey, does anyone have a link to that YouTube of an early Black Dice show while they were in hardcore mode? Someone posted one a while back on another thread and I can't find it.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone? i need that vid so bad...

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 10:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

got it! don't panic

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Little late, but I reviewed the BD gig in October: http://thequietus.com/articles/10667-black-dice-live-review

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh nice.

Black Dice at Fabric though, seems unlikely ;)

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

A man can dream...

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 15 November 2012 00:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Chippendale on drums in that clip?

Fetchboy, Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

close, it's former Lightning Bolt singer Hisham B.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

didn't realize he had such a similar build.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

i couldn't make it to the birthdays gig, otherwise i'd have been tearing up the dancefloor with you i assure you. the lack of engagement of the london audience (not only in terms of dancing, just in general) is so universal and obvious as to be a banal point to make, which is itself a pretty ridiculous state of affairs. your career chronology seems a little wonky to me tbh - i hear it more as a bunch of pretty radical leaps early on (the period of being reasonably definable as a noise band being really short, but then since broken ear record it's been kind of a deepening and refinement of their noise-dance thing. which makes their audience even more peculiar.

that clip from 2002 is pretty cool. i wonder if there's any footage from their really early days? i remember an interview with wolf eyes in the wire a few years ago where they were talking about digging black dice but being hesitant to book them to play in the series of basement shows they were putting on that the time - they'd heard a story about eric copeland grabbing the balls of an audience member so hard that the guy passed out, and so the wolf eyes bros weren't to keen on inviting a band over just to beat up their friends.

fun facts about human waste (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 15 November 2012 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cheers Merdeyeux - half the reason this review came out late was because I was hesitant about doing the whole "why don't London audiences dance?" angle again; but honestly the overall attitude in there was appalling. It wasn't just apathy but ACTIVE apathy, if such a thing can exist, a whole "what the fuck are you doing?!" attitude even right down the front. And it addresses what the point of going to see live music is, especially if you can't really make out the band at all. The whole affair was preposterous, as if the audience were trying as hard as they could to look like they'd rather be anywhere else.

I'd argue that Mr Impossible is their first actual dance record (save Cone Toaster). Repo is more a hiphop/collage thing and I don't really hear the other records as being dance - more power electronics or something?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 15 November 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmm. well i guess our ears just work differently!

active apathy is definitely right, the cheap hipster diss explanation is putting it down to a kind of guardedness re showing any feelings or more importantly showing THE WRONG feelings about things, but i haven't been able to come up with a better one. i've come to accept it and my lonely dancing but i know people who've given up on going to indie-leaning gigs in london because of that vibe, and it's very understandable.

fun facts about human waste (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 15 November 2012 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

I say take the dancefloor back. Do a Sid Vicious and shake things up, bump into people, fuck it. Something I didn't mention in the review was when I found myself getting cross and shouting "I don't know about you but I came here to see fucking BLACK DICE" (bit tipsy by that point), one bloke turned round and kind of acknowledged the situation and started bouncing around with me, which I was very pleased to see :-)

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 15 November 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I never really thought of Cone Toaster as a dance track, tbh. It was easily one of the least dance-oriented early DFA records. In fact, I always thought having Black Dice on the label in those days was a way to pin down an extreme noise end of the spectrum of the sound they were charting.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

when i saw bd in london, mb three years ago, there was some dancing

ogmor, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

As an aside, I was on Discogs the other day and was amused by this: "Punk funk label set up by James Murphy, Tim Goldsworthy and Jonathan Galkin."

I haven't heard DFA described that way for ages, mainly since their sound became sort of ubiquitous or at least normative throughout the 00s. Anyway, reminded me to compilations like this one.

In any case, agree that Black Dice have become way more dancey over time, but especially by now mining 90s genres like breakbeat, gabba and drum'n'bass, combining that with their noise-roots. To my mind, they also always arguably had electro-influences, but mainly through stuff like power-electronics.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:36 (2 years ago) Permalink


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