Lana Del Rey

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um her surname begins with D, obviously

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

Supposedly there used to be a record shop where I come from where the T section was almost as big as all the other sections put together, because they put every band whose name began with 'The' in there. Not sure if I believe that tho.

― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:52 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i've seen stores like this.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

I think in English, it's standard to include the particule when alphabetizing. In Romance languages, it's not since there are a zillion names that begin with de and del and della, etc..., and cause it's not really part of the surname but simply implies that the family is from somewhere or belongs to someone. It's often associated with aristocracy which is why many dropped the use thereof during the Revolution.

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

file her under T, the lana del rey

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

That Lana del Rey

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

File her under D
or file her under V for Video Games...

Mark G, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

i file Wings records under M. hope that isn't a problem for anyone...

scott seward, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

paul wccarthy and mings

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

Real question here is where you put McCartney, i.e. do you treat Mc as Mac or not?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

In comments published in German, McCartney, who has two albums due out this year, said many youngsters would probably hear his music for the first time through playing the ... video game.

Mark G, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

let's get back to talking about whether or not video games is a good song or not

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

I am officially convinced on the 'D' issue now, after a most instructive & entertaining discussion via the shop's facebook page.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

so anyway video games isn't really about video games, it's about a boyfriend who forced her to make sex vids. it all makes sense now, she's like a 21st century joyce carol oates.

swinging in the backyard
pull up in your fast car
whistling my name

open up a beer
and you say get over here
and play a video game

I'm in his favorite sun dress
watching me get undressed
take that body downtown

I say you the bestest
lean in for a big kiss
put his favorite perfume on
go play a video game

it's you, it's you, it's all for you
everything I do
I tell you all the time
heaven is a place on earth with you
tell me all the things you want to do
I heard that you like the bad girls
honey, is that true?

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

P!tchf0rk prediction?

8.1

piscesx, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was "whispering"...

How do you whistle someone's name?

Mark G, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

5.9

Meme Rogers (DL), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

why the fuck does the non-youtube version clip and distort? is that an aesthetic decision these days?

♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Whistling as a language

In the Spanish canary island of La Gomera, a traditional whistled language named silbo gomero is still taught in school. Six separate whistling sounds are used to produce two vowels and four consonants, allowing this language to convey more than 4000 words. This language allowed people (e.g. shepherds) to communicate over long distances in the island, when other communication means were not available.

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

A wolf-whistle is a two-toned sound (like 'whip-woo') commonly made using the above technique to show approval of something or someone (originally a person thought to be sexually attractive).

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

'21C Joyce Carol Oates' is the funniest variation on 'gangsta Nancy Sinatra' yet

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(well maybe not funnier than 'white Morrisey')

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

you'll be laughing out the other side of your mouth when your grandkids are deconstructing "video games" in their first year intro to pop music course

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

dissertation on lesser works of early 21st century youtube divas

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Middle Age: A Romance (2001)
I'll Take You There (2002)
The Tattooed Girl (2003)
The Falls (2004)
Missing Mom (2005)
Black Girl / White Girl (2006)
The Gravedigger's Daughter (2007)
My Sister, My Love (2008)
Little Bird of Heaven (2009)
A Fair Maiden (2010)
The Crosswicks Horror (Forthcoming)

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

you kidding me? I'd better be teaching that class! xp

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Born to Die (2012)

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

;)

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

liked it more when it was about loser boyfriend ignoring her in favor of call of duty 4

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

it can still be about that if you want, it's a multivalent work open to various readings

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

notice she never actually *says* he plays video games in the song

LDR was just trying to punk ILG and it got out of hand, craaazy

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

liked it more when it was about loser boyfriend ignoring her in favor of call of duty 4

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:40 PM (3 hours ago)

same here

sarahell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

odd future (syd the kid) remix

Makes me think of this contribution that belonged earlier in the thread:

And stab Bruno Mars in his goddamn esophagus
And won't stop until the cops come in
Video gaaaames

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

For worship someone who
Actively despises you
Video gaaaames

beachville, Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

so anyway video games isn't really about video games, it's about a boyfriend who forced her to make sex vids. it all makes sense now, she's like a 21st century joyce carol oates.

where are you getting "forced" from

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

"forced" probably a poor word choice... but you say "get over here and play a video game" has an overtone of coercion or dominance.

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

and she doesn't say no, she's clearly party to her own objectification - favorite sundress/favorite perfume/it's all for you...

this is what drives the poignancy of the chorus. sung in a different style, these words could be celebratory, or defiant. but it sounds broken, remorseful, why? the implications are vague, and it's up to the listener to provide the answer. but it's wrapped up in her passivity, her surrender, she'll do anything in order to get a man to like her, even if those things sap her of happiness and self respect.

it's you, it's you, it's all for you
everything I do
I tell you all the time
heaven is a place on earth with you
tell me all the things you want to do
I heard that you like the bad girls
honey, is that true?
it's better than I ever even knew
they say that the world was built for two
only worth living if somebody is loving you
baby now you do

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

Kicking in the front seat
Sitting in the back seat
Video games

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

If I want to be a freak and
Sell it on the weekend
Video gaaaaames

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

^

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

kickin' in the front seat
sittin' in the back seat
video games

― maura, Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:20 AM (2 days ago)

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

soz, thought it was a "new one". Credits to Maura then. I woke up this morning with that in my mind actually, so had to post it

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link

but it's wrapped up in her passivity, her surrender, she'll do anything in order to get a man to like her, even if those things sap her of happiness and self respect.

for me the key to the song is what tim f wrote about it somewhere. the character in the song will do all those things - while also chiding the guy for still being more interested in his video games than her. the author of the song - the one telling you this story and performing the character - makes it clear that this is a fucked-up and unhealthy situation.

i mean, the fact that the character is being sapped of self-respect and happiness is right there in how the song's performed. if it was just a straightforward "here is how relationships work" love song you wouldn't get that.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

(re: the album, the worst thing is how horribly overproduced it is. like adele after watching the twin speaks dvd box set urgh)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

and she doesn't say no, she's clearly party to her own objectification - favorite sundress/favorite perfume/it's all for you...

this is what drives the poignancy of the chorus. sung in a different style, these words could be celebratory, or defiant. but it sounds broken, remorseful, why? the implications are vague, and it's up to the listener to provide the answer. but it's wrapped up in her passivity, her surrender, she'll do anything in order to get a man to like her, even if those things sap her of happiness and self respect.

it's you, it's you, it's all for you
everything I do
I tell you all the time
heaven is a place on earth with you
tell me all the things you want to do
I heard that you like the bad girls
honey, is that true?
it's better than I ever even knew
they say that the world was built for two
only worth living if somebody is loving you
baby now you do

FYI, it's sung that way because that's the way she sings.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

Especially after seeing her on SNL, I have no faith in her ability to do nuance and emotion; she is all blank effect wistfulness because that is what her singing voice sounds like; if anything, the songs are built around her limitations/inflexibility.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

its kinda funny because i watched the SNL thing and was a little dumbfounded that people were so shocked and appalled mainly because to my ears she sounds terrible on the recordings and live so i dont really see the distinction

blurgh (jjjusten), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XrI6bZxsbxk

piscesx, Friday, 27 January 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

or rather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrI6bZxsbxk

piscesx, Friday, 27 January 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

lex, I don't think anybody's playing a video game - that's the common reading, but the actual lyrics are more vague and open to interpretation. and a song that can be read 3 diff ways is more interesting to me than one with a single meaning.

dan, my point has nothing to do with her limitations as a singer, just the gulf between the words and the delivery and how it makes the song interesting. if she were singing "you broke my heart, you heartless jerk" in the same tone it'd be boring - maybe the same song amateurist is hearing? either way, she does have other modes of singing as can be heard on the album (that's not an entreaty to listen to the album btw, it's pretty bad).

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Friday, 27 January 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link


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