thats gangsta
― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
Can't tell if this NYT piece is meant to be a review of the album or not but if so then he might want to try discussing the music for more than a couple of paragraphs, fun though talking about memes and quoting Brian Williams doubtless is.
sans brian william reference, this is basically my response to every music review ever.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
setting aside the redundancy of "gangsta nancy sinatra" (idk maybe she should've gone with the gangsta lesley gore), the phrase makes sense in the context of hearing the entire album.
when I say "gangsta" I'm thinking in macro-genre terms here. not only gangsta but gangster too (i.e. all 3 scarfaces). a pop culture icon celebrating the pursuit of status, power, and money, with an undercurrent of existential sadness - hurtling towards doom, prison or the grave. dark side of the american dream stuff.
she's not toting a gun, but LDR is shamelessly obsessed with fame and status and power and money and kicks, as openly avaricious as any scarface, but with the same noirish tone that acknowledges where the fast times will end up - heartbreak, solitude, addiction, death. she's exploiting a femme mirror of gangsterism where her gun is her body, and she will use her talents, natural or un, to get what she wants, surrendering to suffer in whatever psychic trap that path leads her to. and that's not me doing the NYT thing and reading extramusical cues, this is what she puts out there lyrically.
money is the reason we exist / everybody knows it / it's a fact / kiss kiss
plus she does in fact utter the words "how do ya like me now?"
as I said above, when this stance is implicit it works really well for her, but when it's explicit the material falls flat. frustrating cause you can see the target that was being shot at, I kind of wish she had nailed it.
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
that line is so so bad
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
there are so many bad lines on this album
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
it is hard to imagine a line worse than that line
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
there's a potentially unique and interesting vision at play here, but the aesthetic chops required to pull it off are not present
xps o gimme a minute
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
ha you can sing that to the "heaven is a place on Earth" part of the chorus to "Video Games"
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
how bout this
carmen carmenstaying up til mornin'only 17 but she walks the streets so mean
it's alarming trulyhow disarming we can beeating soft ice creamconey island queen
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
only 17 but she walks the streets so mean, I mean, c'mon
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
think that's a lou reed lyric tbh
― omar little, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
All the colored girlsThe colored girls singVideo gaaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
'money is the reason we exist / everybody knows it / it's a fact / kiss kiss"
this reminds me of the Countess' song "money can't buy you class" from real housewives of NYC
― akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
ladies and gentlemen, this is the countess
elegance is learnedlearned my friendvideo gaaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
all these bad lyrics are rendered in lush folds of dreamy technicolor pop, that swooning shit can make any kind of pap pop in a 16 yo's bedroom, this album will be widely quoted in high school yearbooks
(do they still print yearbooks? or is it all on fb now?)
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
what sets LDR apart is her shamelessness - it's the kind of shamelessness that makes pop stars
"all the terrible things you think about me are true, because I told you all about them"
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
^ not an LDR lyric, but I will license it to her for a small fee
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
then you'll have Morrissey coming after you
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
did I just unconsciously quote moz
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
haha you might as well have
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
woah now that i think about it lana del ray is the white morrissey
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
that's racist, clearly she's the american morrissey
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
I am the sonand the heirvideo games
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
i love kent. litchfield county is about all i fuck with in connecticut. you know who else went to the kent school? the gangsta creator of the family guy.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
The animated TV show Family Guy is written by alumnus Seth MacFarlane. In 1999, the school's headmaster, Father Schell, wrote to a number of companies urging them not to advertise with the TV show calling it obnoxious. Seth MacFarlane's parents, who worked at the school, resigned in protest.
― buzza, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
it is pretty fucking obnoxious
― akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
this caption on the front page of the billboard website is killing me:
"Now that Lana Del Rey's hotly 'Born To Die' has leaked, expect the still-unproven live singer to elicit a whole new wave of 'she's not that bad on record!' defenses. But is the album any good? At 15 tracks, it's as puffy as the singer's oft-debated lips."
i didn't actually read the article though, for some reason despite loving "video games" i have almost zero desire to listen to this album
― teledyldonix, Thursday, 26 January 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
When it shoots up the dropper's neckWhen I'm closing in on deathVideo games
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
chorus to video games reminds me of the chorus of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MRdtXWcgIw
http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif
― dave cool, Thursday, 26 January 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
btw since i haven't done anything except post fake lyrics to this thread. i think video games is remarkably dull, lazy in every respect. her voice and the production have some of the superficial hazy appeal of a david lynch soundtrack but it's not chewy at all (meaning it doesn't reveal anything as it goes along, let alone on repeated listenings) and memorable only in the most irritating sense. it would make a good 30-second commercial jingle but i can scarcely get myself to listen to more than 90 seconds of it before desperately wanting to do/listen to something else. i don't truly begrudge anyone for liking it though, coz taste is taste etc. but the amateurishness of her SNL performance didn't shock me because the "persona" on the record seems kind of too easily won and not very interesting to begin with.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
i was probably hyperbolic there. the single isn't HORRIBLE, it's simply not outstanding in any way.
it reminds me of some lazy moody indie pop, not that a name comes to mind immediately. stuff i maybe listened to for a while in college. like the boring mazzy star songs or something. in the sense that it's all attitudinizing and nothing of formal interest at all.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
xxxpost: The two chorus have the same chords I think?.... F Am C with an Em thrown somewhere in there.
― Moka, Thursday, 26 January 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
Cuz when the blood begins to flowWhen it shoots up the droppers neckWhen I'm closing in on deathVideo gaaaaaames
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is this true?!
― dave cool, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
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oops can't keep up w/ this thread.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:23 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, I think the chorus is definitely of formal interest. It's 22 bars long and seems to have two different beginnings. Unconventional rhyming structures, too.
― timellison, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
And now that I think about it, it's that chorus that made me think of Mary Margaret O'Hara the first time I heard it.
― timellison, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
driving in cars with boys (not on the album I know): sounds exactly like something else, can't remember what. (maybe this is why it isn't on the album, because the tune is a complete plagarism). anyone know what it is? some middling 80's pop song.
― akm, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
huh that's interesting. it scans as conventional and boring to me.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link
okay i can hear the indie thing here and here. i had no idea there were so many songs on youtube. i remember looking months ago and there weren't this many. tons now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdOIn_xA_Y&feature=autoplay&list=UL7gqOg3PYAaM&lf=mfu_in_order&playnext=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqOg3PYAaM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
it scans as conventional and boring to me.
Seven lines in a row that all rhyme at the end and it's in a 3+3+1 configuration where the third line is extended in each part and then an extra line is tacked on at the end.
― timellison, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
this is way bigger than lana on youtube right now. like a zillion times. not like video games wasn't huge there. it was. but people really want katy perry right now. the people have spoken. they already have a shape-shifting chameleon who has a hard time singing on snl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJtB55MaoD0
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
co-sign amateurist 100%
― some dude, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
well they want beyonce AND katy. you know, they want two things. jessie j can do both.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
I now feel slightly less nuts for having made that comparison on another board, thanks.
― Simon H., Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
strings on 'national anthem' sound just like 'bittersweet symphony'; is jagger going to get a check again?
― akm, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I have to admit I'm kind of feeling timellison's posts xp
― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link