Turns out two of the producers worked on Kanye's Runaway.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
"This sounds like a 90s UK album feel to me due to the trip hoppy beats and strings."
all of her songs have sounded like this to me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pu8HW.gif
― dave cool, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
If it was clear from the start that she was trying to be a pop star rather than some indie siren the terms of the debate would have been completely different
it's that entire binary i want to reject though! any debate that takes it as the starting point - she has to be either/or - is doomed to shitness (as indeed the majority of the LDR debate has been). what do "pop" and "indie" even mean in that context? how do they affect her music?
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
how is anything about her "indie"? this quote says it all:
Grant's management chose her stage name, "I wanted to be a band but the label I was with and the team I had around me absolutely wanted me to be a solo artist. Lana Del Rey came from a series of managers and lawyers over the last 5 years who wanted a name that they thought better fit the sound of the music."
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
5 years of name negotiations with lawyers!
'ihow is anything about her "indie"?'
exactly, she never did. it was just an assumption people took up because of the self-produced video for video games. i think it was a wrong assumption.
― akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
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??? that video didn't just accidentally play to indie sensibilities and audiences, though. i refuse to believe that LDR's marketing has been that entirely guileless. it seems to me that she was originally pitched to blog-happy indie culture as a way of creating a sense of "specialness" and building word of mouth. it worked like a charm, but the inevitable reveal that it was all just savvy brand positioning was bound to bruise overearnest indie hearts.
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
saw this piece of urban folk art on the way to work today http://i.imgur.com/I84Ke.jpg
― ♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
so what if actually she came up with that name all by herself, and instead spent that 5 years badgering trentemoller and bonnie prince billy to work together to producer her album..... what then?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Let's have a toast for douchebagsA toast for the assholesVideo gaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
I don't care what focus group came up w/ her name, I care that most of her songs suck
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
and that I see a darknessand that I see a darknessand that I see a darkness ... video games
― Mark G, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Grab somebody sexyTell them heyVideo gaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
fuck washing a hat hi dere how is it made video games...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
save us Johnny Feveragain, save us Johnny Fevervideo games
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
Ball so hardMotherfuckers wanna find meVideo gaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
They see me rollin' They hatin'Video gaymz
― future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
I fed a fish to a pelican at Frisco bay It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran awayVideo games...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Shaggy's little boys look just like Shaggy And my little boy looks just like daddy video games...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
the album is a masterpiece of marketing, totally stays on gangsta-nancy-sinatra message. she manages to be front-and-center in big productions without evaporating like on SNL, and her schtick works when she isn't violating the show-don't-tell maxim. unfortunately the lyrical clangers are pretty brutal.
carmen carmen staying up til mornin'only 17 but she walks the streets so mean
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
lou reed ghostwrote the whole thing
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
i am the root, i am the tablei am video gaaaaaaames
― markers, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
she's indie in the sense of indie being a cultural code word for dwelling over your low self-esteem + emotional wreckage, but the indie/pop division hasn't meant much since 1991 so
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
she should do a collab album with ghostface killah and destroyer
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
Cuz when the blood begins to flowWhen it shoots up the droppers neckWhen I'm closing in on deathVideo gaaaaaames
― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
You gotta lick itBefore you stick itVideo gaaaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
i'm a bad bitchi'm a cuntvideo gaaaaaames
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
I like this album in a slow-motion car crash sort of way. Which I genuinely mean as a compliment.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
you need to crawlbefore you ballvideo games
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
hahahahahahahaha
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
that was just for you.
you can hide beside me, play your video games;and I won't tell no-one your name
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Can't tell if this NYT piece is meant to be a review of the album or not but if so then he might want to try discussing the music for more than a couple of paragraphs, fun though talking about memes and quoting Brian Williams doubtless is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/arts/music/born-to-die-lana-del-reys-debut-album.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimesarts
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
music writers not writing about the music at hand is such a bugbear of mine. tons of em do this ;_;
caramanica, as i said on twitter, is the dude who gifted us a PRRs profile piece in the NYT. RIP music journalism
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
IT’S already difficult to remember Lana Del Rey, but let’s try.
OH RITE WHO? LANA DEL WHO, YOU SAY?
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
why do people keep calling her "gangsta"?
― m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
adjective performed well in the focus groups
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
her producer also produced this http://t.co/MZykcyLW
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
Nice production.
xp She called herself the "gangsta Nancy Sinatra" despite being considerably less "gangsta" than Nancy Sinatra.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
that's all it takes?okay, i'm the "gangsta david byrne".did she rob a bank? shoot somebody? does she sell drugs? own a gun? do words have no meaning? wtf?
― m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
it's all contextual, like within her social group of people in the connecticut suburbs, she was the gangsta
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
Translation: "I enjoy both the music of Nancy Sinatra and hip hop and I thought this would be a cute, quotable phrase. I regret to say I have never actually committed a felony and apologise for any confusion."
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
okay, i guess those both kind of make sense, but why do other people use that?
also, yeah, calling yourself the "gangsta nancy sinatra" is like calling yourself the "jewish woody allen"...
― m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
tbf that was more a piece of fiction than journalism
― buzza, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
i want a buzza profile in the nyt tbh
― markers, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
how many times in this thread has the phrase "most photographed barn in america" been used
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
where was it that she called herself "gangsta Nancy sinatra" again? wasn't it on some Facebook page? could it be possible that she herself had nothing to do with that tagline?
― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
she has it etched on her gun
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link