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moral of the story: stay away from Goofy

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

garsh

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

i haven't seen that guy in 10 years but there's an ~85% chance he currently posts to reddit

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

rip skyway ride

Aerosol, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

in ref to those pics obv

Aerosol, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

unfortunately can't get to my 50s-60s photos, waiting for flickr to unlock/renew my account arrgh

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

also RIP: creepy waving dolls inside Sleeping Beauty's Castle

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i miss you, disneyland :(

― chaki, Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Aerosol, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

ohhh just realized you can see Monstro the whale in the background of Shakey's first pic! <3

also i covet the shirt the girl in the lower left corner is wearing

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

so.... gossip?

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

here is some gossip for you: last week, Disneyland quietly hooked up the Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin Fastpass system to the park-wide network of Fastpasses! for the last decade you could go get a Fastpass for the ride and it wouldn't count against your limited Fastpass total, because it wasn't hooked up to the main network. now you have to either waste a good Fastpass on Roger Rabbit or wait in line, which is of course fascist bullshit.

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is an outrage

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh man, i abused the fuck out of the fastpass last time i went cause i was there with my whole family and a bunch of peeps didn't want to ride the fastpass rides so i just grabbed fastpasses with all their tickets and had like five fastpasses at one time

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

how do the fastpasses work?

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

instead of waiting in line you go to a machine for the line and swipe your ticket and get a fastpass. the fastpass has a time on it and if you come back at that time you basically get automatic admission to the ride. but you can only have like 1 (or 2?) at a time

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

iirc

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think it goes: you get a fastpass with a return time on it, and then you can't get another one until it's that return time. however, if the return time is way later in the day, you can get another one two hours after you picked up the first one.

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am going to WDW in April. I am very excited. What are your pro tips, ILX friends?

gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

use your fastpass.

find hidden mickeys.

get autograph book + have characters sign it

get the secret character phone number and call in to stalk, uh, hunt down, uh, find your fave characters.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

playing drinking around the world where you drink at every country in epcot world pavilion. ride the troll ride.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

ride the troll ride. 4chanstorm

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

You can get a second Fastpass if you approach the fifteen-minute window of the first -- at least in WDW.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

whoa, neat!

1 day in Magic Kingdom
1 day in Animal Kingdom & Epcot (together)
1 day at Sea World

Sound good? I would skip Sea World but girlfriend is a big coaster fiend, and I don't think I can get away w/o going to another park outside Disney. I don't like coasters terribly much, so I figure Sea World might be kind of fun when she's whipping around upside down.

gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 22:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

if you have a smartphone, i believe there's an app that shows you the wait times for all the rides. there's one for disneyland at least, i'm sure wdw has one too.

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Confession: ten trips to WDW since '98, still haven't visited Animal Kingdom.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would go for Universal Studios for your coaster needs.

Is Disneyland a completely different beast than WDW? We are tentatively considering a West Coast trip and loved WDW so much that Disneyland is under consideration.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Animal Kingdom is great. Not sure about feasibility of doing AK + Epcot on the same day, though. Epcot is my fave park. Also you're going to miss MGM? Tower of Terror is classic. Other good stuff (like 3D Muppet Movie! Star Wars ride!) worth doing there too.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is Disneyland a completely different beast than WDW?

yes. it's much smaller for one thing.

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would go to MGM instead of Sea World and ride Tower of Terror and Aerosmith roller coaster which are both thrillier rides than most of WDW attractions.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

also it's way older, there's stuff there from the 50s

xp

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's no comparison: WDW is immersive. You can hang out in a Disney hotel playing golf, swimming, eating, and hanging with bros and not step foot in a park.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

even the drive into the Magic Kingdom represents a triumph of Walt Disney learning from the mistakes of Disneyland. You drive further and further north until you're forced to park at the Transportation and Ticket Center, and even then you still can't see the park until you're on the monorail or ferry boat.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

mistakes!

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also you're going to miss MGM? Tower of Terror is classic.

Isn't MGM now called Disney Hollywood Studios? Is that the same thing? We've done Muppets and Star Wars in California, so really we'd only be going for Tower of Terror.

I like the idea of Epcot, but a lot of what I've read says it's very out of date, and I don't want to invest myself in too much hoakum.

gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember it so fondly from the '87, I'm worried it won't hold up

gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Disney regretted the development around the Disneyland park.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Epoct is by far the best park! It's the one with all the restaurants, and you can Drink Around the World.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've never been to WDW but yeah it seems much closer to, like, an actual functioning city or resort town than Disneyland, which is very much an amusement park.

I am also very fond of Disneyland's original inspiration (which is even smaller in scale), Children's Fairyland in Oakland.

xp

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

some parts of epcot are out of date (like the technology pavilion, the growing grain pavilion, and the communications throughout history pavilion) but they're out of date in an incredibly sincere optimistic way about the future of humanity and the promise of technology. it's a very renewing experience!

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hollywood Studios is the one to miss if you can't do them all, but I had the most fun on the Toy Story Midway Mania ride there, and my coaster-loving other half loved the Rock'n'Rollercoaster.

End your Animal Kingdom/Epcot day at Epcot for the IllumiNations show, do Animal Kingdom in the morning.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Epcot is really the only thing I am curious about at WDW

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Future World doesn't feel dowdy.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Epcot is the one park in which I feel no pressure to ride anything. You can walk with a beer and soak it in.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, we'll do Epcot. Only thing: neither of us drink. Will it still be fun? We can afford three days at theme parks. We both want to do Animal Kingdom (suckers for giraffes), and obv. Magic Kingdom. Epcot would be our third day, just want to make sure it's a good call, and that we're not gonna regret skipping Sea World and/or Universal Studios.

gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cheers all, I realised it was smaller and older, is it just that it's not so Disneyfied? We stayed offsite in Orlando, but visited a park about 10 out of our 14 days. This would just be because we're there and wouldn't be the major point of our trip.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

if anything it's MORE Disneyfied

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

basically every ride/feature is tied to a specific Disney film or property

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ah, cool. I think I meant how WDW is so immersive with hotels and transport and whathaveyou, I sort of feel Disneyland seems more pop in then pop out again as opposed to being swallowed up in the whole culture of it. I may have this all wrong in my head.

ailsa, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think the fact that it's older + smaller actually makes it ideal for a "just popping by" trip. also the new cars land is going to open this summer, presumably with new rides that haven't made it to wdw yet? i heard one of the new rides is going to be like the old flying saucer ride and i am psyyyyyyyched

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno when yr in Disneyland you are IN Disneyland, the outside world sort of ceases to exist, there are no signs of it. in my humble opinion anyway.

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

As for Disney, I am totally defeated by this FastPass system. I am trying to sign up for some rides, but when I click on a date, it says it is removing me from my party because my FastPass limit is reached. Is there some completely separate part of the site where I'm supposed to buy FastPasses so that I have them to use? Every indication I've gotten is that it would be monumentally stupid to just show up at the park on Christmas Day, but apparently the incredible attention to detail doesn't extend to building a usable website.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 8 November 2014 14:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

When I go to Trader Joes tomorrow and my bro asks me what I've got planned this weekend I'm gonna be all "planning to spend a few more hours struggling with My Disney Experience, dude, and you?"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 8 November 2014 14:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

OK update I think I understand what's going on here, some kind of complicated coordination issue with my sister's family who are linked to us on this reservation.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 8 November 2014 15:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I've actually become friends with a couple of local TJ folks. Go figure, they're nice off the clock, too.

Fast passes, or at least early fast passes, tend to get snagged well in advance. Christmas is literally peak visiting time, so I wonder if that has anything to do with your problems.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 15:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the park, by the way, has many Fast Pass kiosks, with dedicated staff just there to help you with the fast pass stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 15:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the kiosks were new and a bit of a mixed bag last time I was there because they had to have cast members operate them for you, so you were very likely to run into a case of old timer trying to interact with new technology. Some cast members knew all the short cuts and how to game the kiosk but others just didn't get it. It's probably improved since then.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 8 November 2014 16:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, all the tech stuff gets better all the time. The kiosk cast was all young last week, and very helpful. We did a lot of fast pass swapping. If we had a fastpass for, say, Haunted Mansion later in the day, but the line was short, we would just wait in the line then use the fastpass for something else later.

Also, again, rider swap was awesome and easy. My older daughter and I used the fast pass for Space Mountain while my wife waited with our younger daughter (who doesn't like dark rides). We zipped through the line and onto the ride in now time, then popped out, tag-teamed, and left the kids waiting while she and I more or less immediately went on Space Mountain. So mechanical delay aside, I basically got to ride it twice in 10 minutes. All you have to do is tell a cast member when you head in.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 16:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

With fast pass or rider swap, how are you not taking another patron's place in line?

pplains, Saturday, 8 November 2014 16:45 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It all goes pretty smoothly. It's not that you're taking someone's place so much as a feeding in from a second, faster line. So you wait in the regular line, and then every set amount of time they send in a batch of the fast pass holders. Keep in mind that fast pass is free and available to everyone, first come, first served (they're usually claimed if not months in advance than certainly early in the day). Ride swap, it's not a regular thing, or at least not too apparent. Just a person here or there. It makes it fairer for folks stuck babysitting or waiting with old folks or whomever, so they don't have to spend an hour sitting there, then another hour waiting in line themselves. You could say the assumption is they have been waiting in line with their family in spirit.

I should note they no longer have handicapped access lines, because too many assholes were pretending to be in wheelchairs and stuff to skip the line. But for all its elaborate design, WDW seems remarkably handicap accessible, from buses to rides. I should look for blog posts from folks in wheelchairs. I'm curious what they think.

If anything, the proliferation of scooters and strollers are the only things hampering the flow of things, but both are probably necessities. I saw mostly elderly and impaired (casts and crutches) young folks using scooters, which is only fair, because walking 10 to 15 miles a day can be tough on anyone.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 16:49 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

it also should be noted that guests are limited to 3 fast passes per day, so you can't just load up on them like crazy.

One change I liked on my most recent trip was how rides like Haunted Mansion, Winnie the Pooh, and Harry Potter at Universal all had fun little interactive things for the kids to do throughout the line so that they don't get bored just standing around.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 8 November 2014 16:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

another thing we did on the last trip which was new-ish to me was going to Innoventions at Epcot. I hadn't gone in there since the 80s so had no idea what to expect. Usually we'd skip it but it sounded like there would be some activities that my 11-year-old son might like, and indeed he loved it. There's tons of interactive games and activities to do in there. It's maybe a little dull for an adult, but being the indulgent parent that I am, we ended up spending hours in there.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 8 November 2014 17:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, Space Mountain has video games to play while waiting in line.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 17:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking about how pissed I'd be if I was waiting at the bank and a fast pass patron bumped ahead of me, but that's not how it is at all, I guess.

pplains, Saturday, 8 November 2014 17:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Sisney figures -- correctly -- that everyone will wait in line eventually.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 November 2014 17:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

OK, computer problems solved, Fastpasses obtained, etc!

Question: if we have a flight out of Orlando at 7:15pm on the last day, how long can we stay in the park? I have zero sense of the time involved in getting from place to place inside Disney. Our luggage will presumably be in the hotel so I guess this means I need to know how much time it takes to go park -> hotel -> airport.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 November 2014 02:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Are you staying in a Disney resort?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 November 2014 03:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Yep.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 November 2014 03:27 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Also I don't really understand how this food thing works -- on that last day I really don't want to spend time having a full sit-down meal in the middle of the day, but will I literally not be able to obtain food for myself and my children if I don't reserve something?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 November 2014 03:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

there's plenty of counter service at the parks too

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Sunday, 9 November 2014 03:49 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Disney rewards those who plan ahead, so planning ahead gets you the greatest benefits and flexibility. Ergo, a lot of the better sit down places/character spots are more or less booked weeks or months in advance. However, there are a number of what they call quick service spots that are fine in a pinch, with sandwiches, pizza, etc. Not the best food, but good enough. There are also what they call 'snacks,' which range from bananas to decadent sundaes. You can get these anywhere.

There's a Disney reservation line which can probably help you find a place to eat, if you're worried. But no, you will be able to obtain food of some sort, just not necessarily the best food or at the most coveted spots. Epcot could be an exception, because there are a ton of places to eat, and even in 2014 the sushi place or awesome Moroccan place does not pack them in as much as the pizza place. (The pizza place is very good, btw.)

If you are in a resort, in many cases they handle the bags for you via their magical express or whatever they call it That is, you don't see your bags again between the resort and your destination airport. So ideally, you check your bags at the resorts and hit the parks for another few hours. The airport is maybe 30 minutes away, so a 7:15 flight gives you lots of time (again, if you plan it).

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 November 2014 03:50 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

planning ahead gets you the greatest benefits and flexibility.

I get that it offers benefits but how "flexibility?" This is exactly what's freaking me out. I'll be there with a 9-year-old and a 4-year-old -- even at home I don't know exactly what time they're gonna feel like eating! And now I have to make this decision eight weeks out.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 November 2014 04:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Make a few reservations ahead of time for places you really want to check out but be realistic about how much you're going to want to plan around specific mealtimes. There are hundreds of places to eat around WDW, so no one's going to go hungry. I'd recommend that you buy the Unofficial Disney World Guide book that's put out every year. That thing is a godsend for planning your trip and it'll hopefully help alleviate some of the freaking out. Checking some of the WDW message boards should help, too. There are a lot of obsessives out there who I'm sure can precisely answer any questions you have.

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Sunday, 9 November 2014 05:26 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I kinda can't stand things being too regimented so I just go to WDW in the spring or fall when all of the kids are in school and mostly wing it. Which seems to work out fairly well, although that obviously means that I haven't made it to any of the really top-shelf restaurants yet.

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Sunday, 9 November 2014 05:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Oh yeah there really is no wrong way to do it, just better ways. I highly recommend a couple of the podcasts,too, since at the least you learn so much.

No children will starve regardless. Like a cruise you may all actually put on weight.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 November 2014 12:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

By flexibility I meant it is much better to have dining reservations, or fast passes, and not need to use them, then need to use them, and not have them. Nothing you plan for is binding, and it is very easy to change strategies on the fly. That's how a lot of the apps help, with lists of wait times and what not.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 November 2014 12:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

My wife really liked this one: http://wdwprepschool.com/

Really useful, so worth a scan of the blog or facebook site, at the least.

There is a free app called WDW Lines that is updated more or less in real time, too.

As WDW prep sums up, "most people don’t plan ahead of time and they end up missing out and wasting a lot of time during their trip." That's really what it's about. There is so much to do, like going to Los Angeles or New York or Chicago or any other big city, that if you go in with no plan there is a chance you'll get overwhelmed and miss out on something you wanted to do, since you'll spend so much time in line, or wandering around, or whatever. But just because the best or most popular restaurants get booked early does not mean there are not a hundred other options, at least when it comes to food. Rides, you can always get on anything, but fast passes speed things up significantly.

Also, if you are going with a 9 year old and 4 year old, consider bringing a cheap little umbrella stroller even if the 4 year old doesn't use one anymore. Last time we went one kid was 8 and the other 5, and it was a little tough on the younger one. This year they were 10 and 7, and both were troopers, but no joke, we really did walk at least 10 miles a day, at most 15 or so. We also brought a bunch of our own snacks, granola bars and stuff. Just to have handy.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 November 2014 12:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Unless you've been several times, spontaneity + Disney don't mix, trust me.

I second the nod for The Unofficial Guide. Even I flip through the latest edition when published in August.

If you've got your heart set on a restaurant, make the reservation anyway around the time your kids usually eat.

My favorite forum: http://www.disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 November 2014 13:07 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, I should note that, although I tend to wing it when I'm actually in the parks, it's an informed winging it, as I go every 2-3 years on average and know the place like the back of my hand by now, and I also tend to do a lot of reading up ahead of time to get a feel for what things are like this year. I would likewise not recommend my approach for beginners, and especially not at Christmastime.

Also, I know this probably doesn't apply to you, eephus, but I can say from experience if you're alone or in a very small party, it's totally possible to get a walk-in seat at a lot of these restaurants that recommend reservations.

I'm In The Mood To Munch! (Old Lunch), Sunday, 9 November 2014 14:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

We've always planned trips during the slowest points of the year. Last week was at worst a 6/10 on the crowd scale. I can only imagine winging it at Christmas, which is peak capacity. They even do the occasional phased closing to keep things remotely manageable. As one site stressed, " those staying at Disney Resorts are guaranteed access to a Disney World theme park, but this does not mean that you will be able to get into the park of your choice, nor does it mean that you will enjoy yourself in an extremely crowded park." Hence, having a plan, and getting places early. As I overheard someone say around 10am at Magic Kingdom, "it's amazing how much you can get done if you get here early!" Amazingly, I think some people don't realize this, or don't know. I see people floating in the hotel pool, planning to hit a park after lunch. That's folly to me. Early bird gets the worm, as always.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 November 2014 15:07 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I have been in the Magic Kingdom on New Year's Eve.

It reminded me of that scene in Blood Meridian when the cowboys see wave after wave of Indians rapidly approaching.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 November 2014 15:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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