fingers crossed lightly. don't care for the new track at all.
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 January 2012 05:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
i didn't feel this track but lady leshurr is on the album?!
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Sunday, 22 January 2012 19:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
the track isn't anything mind-blowing. but it warms my heart the same way their older stuff does.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 22 January 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
couldn't care less about zola jesus, bur i'm enjying this : http://www.pitchfork.com/news/45304-listen-orbital-and-zola-jesus-team-up/
― rusty_allen, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
*enjoying
I really like Never but the idea that Lady Leshurr will work well over an Orbital track just does not compute with me. Zola Jesus is probably more likely to work, her problem has always been tedious backing. I feel quite strongly that Orbital tracks should be lyric-less.
Also 'Wonky' is a shit title and I'm worried the brothers will decide to indulge their sense of humour again, as they're terrible at it.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Looking forward to the gigs more than the album really.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
^agreed on basically all points
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I felt the same as Matt DC but this is an amazing record - their best since In Sides. The title's a red herring because there's very little goofy humour and lots of what they're best at without being too self-referential. I'd be interested to see what younger listeners make of it because it doesn't sound nostalgic at all.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hang on, didn't these guys "split up" not very long ago? *Thinks* oh shit, that was probably about 9 years ago now...
― The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
2004. Reunited for live shows in (I think) 2010.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
must have been 2009, they came here in early 2010.
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 20 February 2012 11:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don't think much of the Zola Jesus collaboration, hope there isn't anything else in that vein. Stadium-friendly in all the wrong ways.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 20 February 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
New France and the title track (with Lady Leshurr) are the outliers but there are no duds imo.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Monday, 20 February 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
love "never" and the zola jesus collab, can't wait for this.
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 20 February 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
They're playing new stuff live on 6Music at the moment. Sounds great, melancholic, disembodied voices, a bit 'Forever'.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think Forever might be my most played Orbital track, so this is good. I've deliberately heard nothing new by them yet.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's an interview with them on Fact today:
http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/16/orbital-on-comebacks-envying-the-chemical-brothers-working-with-flood-and-zola-jesus/
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Interesting they talked to FACT, given that FACT made some disparaging "techno grandads" remarks about them a month or two ago.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Apparently 'Beeledub' is the dubstep version of Satan they played at Glastonbury last year, which wasn't great IIRC.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I thought that would be a remix of the B-side "Beezlebub" that somehow didn't make it on The Altogether
― frogbs, Friday, 16 March 2012 13:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
btw it sucks that this is only going to be like 50 minutes long
― frogbs, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh I'm quite happy with that idea.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
short and sweet beats long and noodly
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 March 2012 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
#ilxpostsoutofcontext
I dunno, just hoping it's not like the new Underworld album where it sounds like they made a conscious decision to keep things short and wound up neglecting a lot of what really made them great in the past, which bothered me because the material itself was really very good
― frogbs, Friday, 16 March 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm guessing they'll vary in length a bit?
If the Maida Vale set is anything to go by they've started playing 'Sad But True' live again. <3
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
i never did hear that new underworld...
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 March 2012 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's pretty good, better than anything else since Beaucoup Fish, but it falls down because by and large it's not very like them, there are too many other producers getting in the way, so it feels a bit like a remix compilation. Which clearly won't be the case with the Wonky, no matter whether it's any cop or not.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
Always interesting to check out although "In Sides" was the last time they were top notch.
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Loads of new stuff in here, at least four tracks... sounds amazing.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 16 March 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also the dubstep Satan turns into a really awesome hardcore Satan about midway through.
http://pitchfork.com/news/45774-video-orbital-and-zola-jesus-new-france/
I missed this
btw I love it
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Matt I'm just getting to that set you posted upthread, holy shit
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Jesus you guys weren't kidding about that Maida Vale set.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/orbital Ahead of the release of their 8th studio album "Wonky", Orbital are hosting a very special live webchat event on Spotify.Join the Orbital Soundrop room on Spotify on Thursday 29th March at 4pm to chat with the band live - and get your chance to ask them about their experiences from the last 25 Years at the heart of British dance music, and their triumphant return to the studio after an 8 year hiatus.We'll also be hosting a truly democratic Orbital playback - where you can listen along and vote for your favourite Orbital tracks - creating the ultimate Orbital playlist - voted for by the fans, for the fans.Soundrop is an app on Spotify to share, discover and experience music together with friends. Soundrop takes the original concept of the jukebox and brings it to the web in a social and democratic way. Find it in Spotify’s App Finder.
Join the Orbital Soundrop room on Spotify on Thursday 29th March at 4pm to chat with the band live - and get your chance to ask them about their experiences from the last 25 Years at the heart of British dance music, and their triumphant return to the studio after an 8 year hiatus.
We'll also be hosting a truly democratic Orbital playback - where you can listen along and vote for your favourite Orbital tracks - creating the ultimate Orbital playlist - voted for by the fans, for the fans.
Soundrop is an app on Spotify to share, discover and experience music together with friends. Soundrop takes the original concept of the jukebox and brings it to the web in a social and democratic way. Find it in Spotify’s App Finder.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe I will be sick Thursday
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
mmmm.
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
djp will just ask them about dr who.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
"what's he REALLY like"
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
then Aldo will join and say how much nu-who sucks
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
OMG.
Now that's how to do a fucking build.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
This has leaked by the way and 'Stringy Acid' is sending me in paroxysms of 90s throwback techno joy. It would be a standout on the Brown album, it's that good.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
STOP TALKING ABOUT IT! I am embargoing it until I can buy it in a record shop on Monday.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 11:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Nick it's hardly my fault you refuse to live in the modern world!
Cosign this entire post really. My copy arrived in the post this morning actually. I've listened to it twice and it is astonishingly good, definitely best since InSides. It's merely very good for the first four tracks or so and then really takes off from Distractions onwards.
There's a bit of almost everything they're good at actually - extreme prettiness (Never), aching Adnan's-style sadness (Distractions), widescreen rave (Stringy Acid) and proper hands-in-the-air anthems - I want at least 10 minutes more of the last track, Where's It Going? which is kinda like the first half of Impact with the cinematic swoop of Out There Somewhere pt. 2.
Also, Stringy Acid aside, I'm surprised how contemporary it sounds, partly because most of the elements of their sound are vogueish again, in M83-style indie electronica when not in dance music itself. And the nods to current music (wobbly dubstep on Beelzebub, Azealia Banks style electro on the title track) work because they maintain the personality of the rest of the album.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Saturday, 31 March 2012 12:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
You're torturing me.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
i really love this
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
i mean i guess this should've been obvious because this is an orbital record but listening to the disconnected youtubes kind of misses out on the incredible weaving they do between tracks
for instance before now it was hard to tell how similar the outro of "straight sun" and the intro of "never" were
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Excited.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is the first album they've done that actually flows like an album in absolutely ages. I would have given it a colour name if I were them. A colour that's patently not as good as green or brown.
Orange maybe.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's neither here nor there - I was making a point that idea of transcension or the sublime or whatever you choose to call it can occur within genre (and always does to a greater or lesser extent). Especially within dance music.
The DJ set thing was merely an example, this is an artist album we're talking about after all.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 09:55 (8 months ago) Permalink
Fair enough; I'm a bit defensive after being lawyered by Tim again.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 10:02 (8 months ago) Permalink
And as if by magic, Halcyon+on+on comes on in the office.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 10:07 (8 months ago) Permalink
FWIW I think you have to respect the intentions of the producers and how the records were intended to be heard, but that's neither here nor there in this conversation.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 10:08 (8 months ago) Permalink
See I'm torn on that, coming from a structuralism / semiotics POV where Barthes looms large and the 'death of the author' is a big thing. It's also incredibly difficult to expressly know someone's intentions with direct access to them, and inferring them through content, history, and other assumptions is dangerous. The music I like best, of whatever kind, is the stuff that I as a listener can find the most use for and draw the most positive experiences from, and if I use something in a way unintended by the author, so be it.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 10:19 (8 months ago) Permalink
I'm a bit defensive after being lawyered by Tim again.
TBH I'm a bit over having this thrown at me when I'm not even using legal terminology.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
I wasn't aware it was something that gets thrown at you that often, but I'm not on here all that much so may have missed that. It's not about legal terminology, though, not at all, it's about a certain approach to argument and logic that feels, when you're on the end of it, as if it's about finding loopholes and faultlines and proping them to the point where they collapse an argument (or someone's engagement with an argument). It's about a way of thinking, and turning that thought into discourse.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:57 (8 months ago) Permalink
Well it gets thrown at me because I'm a lawyer.
I have no issue with the basic distinction you're drawing, I just think that talking in terms of the transcendent is an unhelpful way to make that point. I really don't think it's possible to use the term in a way that helps rather than hinders understanding. The nature of the word, and its baggage, means that it implies a lot more than the speaker really means.
When we say that an artist "transcends" a genre, typically what we really mean is that they're taking aspects of that genre and then reframing them within articulations that cannot be reduced to that genre.
But that is like saying mixing blue with yellow to make green results in a transcending of blue. This seems like an odd way to express the relationships of colours because we don't think of colours as existing in hierarchical relationships with one another.
And I think once we recognise that hierarchies aren't the best way to think about music, then we begin to feel that the language of transcendence is no longer appropriate.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 14:20 (8 months ago) Permalink
'Wonky' is an attempt at the kind of dance album you used to get a lot of in the nineties - that "throw everything in, let's make a bangin' dance-pop album like 'Music For A Jilted Generation'" kind of thing, which is fine in my book. But what seemed to make 'In Sides' so good at the time was that it was a nineties crossover dance album that felt like a complete "piece" in six movements.
It was maybe one of the first times for a lot of rock-orientated fans looking to get into electronic music that they could access it in a way that didn't follow the typical 12-song rock album format - to be immersed in a complete, neatly-bound aural experience without having to have the "oh here's the hit", "oh here's the collab with popular singer of the moment", "oh, here's the ambient fillery bit" etc... 'Insides' just feels so satisfying, so concise, no wasted moments - a slick, well oiled engine with all the components in place. I get that this is the antithesis of 'Wonky''s sparkling maximalist all-star comeback record, but it's not what I personally was hoping for.
― Remember you can talk to me any time, asshole (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 14:29 (8 months ago) Permalink
'In Sides' largely precedes that sort of dance album though, Jilted Generation aside (and even that is way more cohesive than, say, a mid-career Chemical Brothers album).
'Wonky' is actually considerably more concise and tight than 'In Sides' - not really a judgement, 'In Sides' is a much better record, but the tracks have so much time to build. It's not a case of "wasted moments", more "we have loads of time so let's be patient" and it works in its favour.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:10 (8 months ago) Permalink
In the contex of metaphysics, I believe the transcendent can only be conceived of negatively.
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― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:51 (8 months ago) Permalink
They're both different records entirely though. Obviously In Sides wouldn't work as a bunch of single edits, and Wonky probably was good to cut these tracks off when they did.
I don't mind the "composed" element of it at all. I love how it feels like an electrified orchestra in places. Outside of "Straight Sun" (which is too straightforward and sounds like something from The Altogether) all the hooks work for me. I never really bought into the idea that an album couldn't be truly great if it didn't think outside the box or "transcend" its genre.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:56 (8 months ago) Permalink
Orbital is performing with Stephen Hawking at the London Paralympics! Like, right now!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 22:55 (8 months ago) Permalink
"content rather than music"
vs
battle of the sentences whose meaning i cannot fathom even a tiny bit
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:08 (8 months ago) Permalink
if you've not studied western philosophy then I wouldn't worry re the latter.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:17 (8 months ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(philosophy)
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:27 (8 months ago) Permalink
Orbital is performing with Stephen Hawking at the London Paralympics! Like, right now!― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:55 PM (Yesterday)
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:40 (8 months ago) Permalink
Orbital at the Paralympics was brilliant. Being a bit of an Orbital know-nothing, it made me want to investigate further, and I know there's a box set of five of their albums just waiting for me next time I go record shopping.
― Rob M Revisited, Thursday, 30 August 2012 05:43 (8 months ago) Permalink
Wish I'd seen them at the Paralympics ceremony.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:28 (8 months ago) Permalink
iplayer
(iView for Tim FYI)
― itt: i forgot that he yells at a butt (sic), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:35 (8 months ago) Permalink
Wasn't it C4 rather than BBC? I'll investigate though, perhaps watch it at the weekend.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:37 (8 months ago) Permalink
ah sorry
http://paralympics.channel4.com/video/index.html
― itt: i forgot that he yells at a butt (sic), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:58 (8 months ago) Permalink
They did Where's It Going with Stephen Hawking in front of them wearing Orbital glasses and speaking over the top of it, then manipulated his voice so it sounded like he was singing. Except the whole thing had a disabled band playing Spasticus Autisticus by Ian Dury sandwiched in the middle. The whole segment was insanely great.
Would love to know who suggested putting the glasses on Professor Hawking and how that actually happened.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:09 (8 months ago) Permalink
Wow.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:39 (8 months ago) Permalink
OK, calling one of your songs "Stringy Acid" is something that was too obvious even for Analords.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:40 (8 months ago) Permalink
That might be one of my biggest bugbears in music, and something a lot of my favourite acts are guilty of (I'm looking at you, Blur). VCMG did this: 'Bendy Bass', 'Single Blip'. It's like a track spoiler and very annoying.
― Remember you can talk to me any time, asshole (dog latin), Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:56 (8 months ago) Permalink
lol @ the idea of a track spoiler
― ledge, Thursday, 30 August 2012 09:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
I don't mind if it's a track spoiler, it's just lazy. And Orbital are one of those artists who are often quite clever with their titles. They could have done better.
The album's alright. It is an Orbital album, no more, no less. Beezledub is a bit embarrassing, like a dad rifling through their kids' record collection but apart from that it's solid.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 09:06 (8 months ago) Permalink
Lazy, yes. Like they had a working title and never changed it. It winds me up and actually affects my enjoyment of the music because it makes me think they just thought "well this track's good enough, let's call it "Good Song".
― Click here to read in HD (dog latin), Thursday, 30 August 2012 09:33 (8 months ago) Permalink
(opening ceremony repeated on freeview channel "4seven" this afternoon, 4pm i think. might need to rescan your freeview channels though as 4seven is relatively new)
― koogs, Thursday, 30 August 2012 10:14 (8 months ago) Permalink
Didn't see the ceremony last nught. Happily an HD quality rip is available on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Kd4FgGSY5BY#t=12282s
Orbital comes in around 3hr 25. Now excuse me for a minute, I've got some dust in my eye. Again.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 30 August 2012 11:10 (8 months ago) Permalink
Just the Orbital:
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:02 (8 months ago) Permalink
thanks!
― Click here to read in HD (dog latin), Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
I'm actually really digging Beezledub, in general I dislike that style but they really did it right, in my eyes
― frogbs, Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:57 (8 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, it's actually one of my favourites. Helps if you think of it as a mutant version of Satan.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 18:22 (8 months ago) Permalink
well... it IS a mutant version of "Satan", so
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
Exactement.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 August 2012 05:48 (8 months ago) Permalink
btw "Where Is It Going?" pwns
― wtf where's my chapbook (DJP), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:45 (8 months ago) Permalink
Wish they'd used the 'Live style' mix on the album.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 21:27 (8 months ago) Permalink
should i go see orbital or go to a national convention re: my chosen profession
― the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:00 (7 months ago) Permalink
see orbital, c'mon son
― frogbs, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:34 (7 months ago) Permalink
otm
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 23:47 (7 months ago) Permalink
ok, i will
― (♥___♥) (roxymuzak), Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:47 (7 months ago) Permalink