RIP. That sucks.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
ty to dayo (i think) for posting this on tumblr:
― rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh man weird timing. i came on this thread half an hour ago to show my friend tippa lee one of the videos on here, and we saw that winston riley post. that really fucked tippa up. he had to call his friend osbert maddo to tell him. (although apparently maddo and riley had bad blood over money. riley kinda known for not paying people.)
ALSO, the other weird thing is we had been listening to a great don evans record on techniques that riley had made when i got on this thread.
but, yeah, anyway, r.i.p. winston riley. i've been listening to a ton of techniques stuff the last couple of months.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've been listening to his stuff all day too.
what a shit day: I just saw Errol Scorcher died too. And I didn't mention it here, but was sad to hear about King Stitt passing on a little while ago.
― rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
etc mentioned this track on the ILM eoy voting thread and I can't believe i missed this:
― rob, Saturday, 21 January 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
totally stolen from robbo ranx's latest show but this is sick -- new kartel-style deejaying with nice production to boot. i'm a sucker for this kind of stuff, will be keeping an eye on this guy
― chilli, Saturday, 21 January 2012 03:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^^this is far out
― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
nice! love that outro
― rob, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
still catching up on 2011 tracks. Di Genius & Chino:
― rob, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
nice Melanie Fiona "4 AM" remix with Sean Paul: http://largeup.okayplayer.com/2012/01/27/dutty-duet-melanie-fiona-x-sean-paul-4am-remix/
always liked her "Sad Songs" on Janet Kay's "Silly Games" rhythm too.
― rob, Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Soca crop's looking a little thin this year but the new Shurwayne's fun:
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp, yeah reggae-Fiona is actually my favorite mode for her. I'd love if she did a whole album in a one-drop style, "Like I Love You" from last year was incredible.
anyhow, Ward 21's Monkey Barrel riddim is kind of next level:
and Borrow Clothes riddim is a nice throwback:
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Monkey Barrel is crazy--Ward 21 are really pushing into some bizarre and intriguing territory. I hadn't heard that Timberlee, but I think that's my favorite version so far.
will listen to the others after I finish this typically stomping Aidonia track:
― rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 01:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Borrow Clothes is nice, also liked Suku's "Now" on that rhythm, speaking of Ward 21.
what do you all think of Popcaan's new one?
It's growing on me.
― rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 02:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Bacchanalist's growing on me. Strong contender for Road March, i'd think.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
lot of great youtubes posted lately! monkey barrel is really cool. like the popcaan but slightly prefer the masicka on the same riddim, some good double-time singing in the verses iirc.
been enjoying the shurwayne and antilles riddim tracks too. soca's a bit harder to find but the tracks i've heard are really catchy
― chilli, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
new party shot video out, a little too blatantly misogynist even for a music video but visuals are pretty rare for dancehall so w/e
― chilli, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
liking a lot of stuff on Priceless Signature:
Definitely check out Lady Saw and Lisa Hyper's tracks too if you haven't heard them already (riddim originally came out in November, but I think ^this is new)
― rob, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Lengthy article on Buju Banton's arrest and incarceration: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/content/printVersion/3191909/. I was aware there were doubts about this case, but the article lays out a convincing case he's completely innocent.
― rob, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
lot of great singles these days, but aidonia's "lala-land" is just fantastic. such a cool strained flow on that track
― chilli, Thursday, 1 March 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
name names! I don't know that I've heard anything in 2012 yet that I've been blown away by, though here are some recent songs that I've dug:Agent Sasco/Assassin "Hot": http://youtu.be/Z9NbzypomEYKonshens "Gun Shot a Fire": http://youtu.be/kgiukYNLZnY
― rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^ could you point some of these? and maybe some riddims?
really gotta catch up with this thread. the lack of attention makes me feel like 2012 hasn´t started for dancehall yet...(and surely i'm missing a lot)
― rusty_allen, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Konshens - Bun Satan
― Tim F, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
i wasn't totally sold on that^ at first, but holy crap does it build up in the last minute
― rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
riva stone riddim is my fave so far this year
j'ouvert riddim (khago - peppery) and hot chocolate riddim (tifa - wipe mi up) are awesome as well
2012 has been pretty good so far! I think there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in dancehall right now, working on something about that actually
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 2 March 2012 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok, that Tifa is really nice! realizing I was underrating the year because I hadn't really paid much attention for the past few weeks...
― rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 03:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
add welding to that jouvert riddim list. other riddims i'm loving so far this year are riva stone and worldwide. that choral-sounding girl in riva stone is such a great touch
― chilli, Friday, 2 March 2012 08:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh and this is an awesome dancehall/country track! better than it sounds:
― chilli, Friday, 2 March 2012 09:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
this mix from The Large is great
resisting the urge to post a bunch of individual tracks from that (though lots will be familiar if you've been following this thread). do check out Schlachthofbronx & Warrior Queen's filthy Dickie Riddim (http://youtu.be/6yCdwY6nJZo) and Cham & O's only slightly less sleazy Tun Up:
― rob, Sunday, 4 March 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^ produced by dave kelly...first riddim since 'overdrive' perhaps? does anyone know the name? (it's the same as 'hot', posted above)
also enjoying the hipnotic grittyness of the 'hot water riddim' at the moment.
― rusty_allen, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really LOVE the instrumental/version of the hot water riddim but none of the songs on it are really grabbing me. macka diamond's "nah fail" is prob the best one, or liquid's "dah wine deh"
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^ that's what i'm feeling too. macka diamond is prob my fav, so far. but what i really wanted was a konshens version...
― rusty_allen, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpI *think* it's called Ice Cream: http://youtu.be/1wmBvxoDrNY.
― rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
^not so sure about that tbh, but you are both otm about Hot Water
― rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah hot water is fantastic but i'm actually leaning towards sizzla's version despite the terrible lyrical content. none of the other performers capture the angry spirit of the riddim i guess. ice cream's good too, but older and def. a different riddim. iirc it was produced by swedish producer adde instrumentals, the same guy behind the huge "summer time" riddim
― chilli, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
when I looked up hot water on youtube, I was like "oh sizzla is on this, I bet this one is the best" and then that condemnation of same-sex marriage happened. I can sometimes overlook or, even more likely, miss (i had forgotten what "fish" meant when I posted that Bounty Killer track upthread) homophobic stuff in dancehall, but I couldn't get past that opening declaration. I agree about the anger though, would like to hear Aidonia on that one.
― rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
that Dave Kelly riddim is officially called Tun Up Tun Up btw
came around to quite like Zj Liquid and Wayne Wonder on Hot Water
― rob, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
also, Konshens is having the year I thought Popcaan was going to have:
― rob, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol this pic (also im somewhat amused that i got the imgur URL NOAS5.png)
― chilli, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
more on topic the taranchyla song on hot water is interesting, some crazy autotune alien vocals on there
― chilli, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
second verse of this is pretty mind-blowing. lot of good tracks on this riddim (octane, busy, anthony b etc.)
― chilli, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 08:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
good stuff! there seems to be a bonanza of these minimalist riddims this year:
― rob, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp : never really cared that much for capleton, tbh (dunno why...prob too histrionic?), but yeah 'the return' is great.
― rusty_allen, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
the #TNS riddim is incredible, so many great voicings on this one:
also feeling the Wet Up riddim a lot:
also, not to be all self-promoting and stuff but i wrote this and would like you guys' opinions - http://www.theclustermag.com/blog/2012/03/life-after-vybz/
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
still reading, but what riddim comes on after Hot Water in the mix?
― rob, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
ty, I like that a lot and had missed it
really nice piece and pretty thoroughly otm throughout. I don't think Tomahawk Technique was ever mentioned here, but ugh is it bad. Still waiting for Popcaan to do something as great this year as last--not really feeling that TNS track, but I think I just don't really love the riddim--but I didn't realize he was so young. Definitely agree that Lady Saw is having a shockingly great run right now. And yeah, everyone is right about Riva Stone.
― rob, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
really digging this
konshens - so mi tan
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
XD XD XD
is there a Fall Jams thread?
― rob, Saturday, 22 September 2012 20:21 (8 months ago) Permalink
new video (which is terrible tbh but I like the song) from the soon to be free Busy:
― rob, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
Cham over these stripped bare Dave Kelly-ish riddims have been such a highlight this year:
― rob, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:29 (7 months ago) Permalink
any other Oregonians read this thread? LargeUp posted this video the other day that was filmed here (somewhere in central OR from the landscape):
― rob, Saturday, 6 October 2012 22:39 (7 months ago) Permalink
another great Russian production:
― rob, Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
This thread is such a browser killer, I think I'm going to stop embeds from here on out. If you haven't yet heard Lady Saw's "HEELS ON" go to youtube or spotify or whatever and do so immediately.
― rob, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:42 (7 months ago) Permalink
As someone who loves updates on here and listens to every youtube i say NOOOOOOOOOO
just use bookmarks man
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 29 October 2012 11:36 (6 months ago) Permalink
Can’t argue with that.
After being super quiet for a lot of the year, Mavado has suddenly put out two great tunes back to back. Not surprisingly these are both Di Genius productions.
That's the clean version^, which I think I prefer. Here's the raw: http://youtu.be/zqi1itkhJc4.
― rob, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:24 (6 months ago) Permalink
this is rather nice isn't it?
I-Octane & Bounty Killer:
― rob, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 02:02 (6 months ago) Permalink
and another excellent combination (Gappy Ranks & Busy). riddim really evolves on this:
― rob, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 02:29 (6 months ago) Permalink
I'm not always sold on Masicka's skills, but he manages to find himself on some of the more interesting productions out there, like this from Equiknoxx. The only downside is that they are frequently about a minute too long:
― rob, Monday, 19 November 2012 01:28 (6 months ago) Permalink
Tifa and Spice's "Why Yuh Mad" might be the best thing I've heard all year:
I want to check out other voicings on this riddim (Dog Bite), but I can't stop playing this.
― rob, Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:07 (5 months ago) Permalink
Konshens put out so much stuff this year I started overlooking his tunes at some point and probably missed some good tunes:
"like a Burger King combo"
― rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:36 (5 months ago) Permalink
more Konshens tunes tunes tunes tunes:
― rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:43 (5 months ago) Permalink
Someone named Sax*n Baird at afropop worldwide lists some of his fave caribbean tunes for 2012:
Machel Montano – Go Down (Loudspeaker Riddim)
Popcaan – “When Mi Party” (Summer Wave Riddim
Vybz Kartel – ” R U Ready” Ft Stylysh (Buss Up Riddim)
Tnght Riddim – The Heatwave Refix Featuring Mr. Lexx & Nikisha
he also likes Montreal dj Poirier – Soca Road EP
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:20 (5 months ago) Permalink
thanks curmudgeon--please post more lists if you find them. I haven't seen any yet. Last year I made a few friends a playlist of my favorite dancehall from the year, so I'll probably post that list here soon and nominate a bunch of it to the ILM poll. Would love to see anyone who reads this thread's lists too--top 5 or whatever.
That Montano track has shown up on at least one other list I saw. My girly taste means I like Natalie Storm ("Rock the Runway") on Loudspeaker and Gaza Slim ("Independent Ladies" raved about a bit upthread) on Summer Wave more.
― rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:47 (5 months ago) Permalink
"Kartel may be in jail awaiting trial, but that hasn’t stopped him from dropping a few singles."
― rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:48 (5 months ago) Permalink
love this thread, rob (and indeed others who post regularly) - gave me one of my top five? top three? songs of the year - Psycho by Tommy Lee, also Vybz Kartel Lip Gloss, very highly placed in my year-end tunes.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:39 (5 months ago) Permalink
interesting to hear your love for Psycho! Tommy Lee really should have come up more itt--he seems like basically the biggest thing to happen in JA music this year, for better or worse. While horrorcore dancehall isn't a thing I would have thought I would enjoy, I have come to like Pyscho too, though after hitting a run of his tracks where he seemed to be trying to expand his repertoire unsuccessfully, I stopped paying attention. Until the other night when I checked out "Shook" and "Uncle Demon" which are both pretty great and in the same vein as "Psycho." Also, dude gets credit for making some genuinely disturbing videos (as well as inspiring the video for "Why Yuh Mad").
― rob, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:55 (5 months ago) Permalink
Well I'm a sucker for supernatural vengeance, which, added to that incredible delivery, made it a song totally impossible to resist for me. 'Sparta send some cyanide and 'bout two drum a gunpowder' is a line that's been in my head loads this year - 'unhinged' was the word I think you used - good word for it. Will check out those other two. Haven't really been keeping up with... anything really, so was good to go through a load of recs on this thread this eve.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:00 (5 months ago) Permalink
yeah, I love that "cyanide" line too: a weirdly refreshing change of pace from gunman lyrics.
There's probably a really good essay to write about how Lee's use of Jamaican/Caribbean folklore about the undead (duppies, Haitian zombies, demons, etc). If nothing else, the youtube comments for his videos are always interesting--I have no special knowledge of JA culture, but Lee does seem to be pressing some buttons in genuinely shocking ways, not unlike Vybz Kartel's skin-bleaching but easier to stomach from a US perspective.
― rob, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:09 (5 months ago) Permalink
And he's got a new one out. Surprised to find myself really into the second half. Swerves from horrorcore to goth:
― rob, Friday, 21 December 2012 03:25 (5 months ago) Permalink
cheers rob. yeah i was thinking about Psycho - there's something about that attenuated bo diddley beat and the claustrophobia of a community populated with ghosts and duppy and zombies and general fear that makes it very atmospheric. didn't really realise Jamaican horrorcore was a thing - is there anyone else aside from Tommy Lee doing it? Oh yeah, it's just got to the second half in that vid - that's great! Like you say, it makes a change from gun stuff - and with the supernatural so close it feels a bit more vulnerable, man diddling about with powers that will kill him for temporary gang supremacy/survival - like another favourite line from Psycho 'Mmm, duppy worst thing you can see, dem send duppy for me'.
And yes, continuation of the whole duppy/supernatural strand in reggae is interesting.
― Fizzles, Friday, 21 December 2012 05:46 (5 months ago) Permalink
LargeUp's Top 10 tracks of the year (their album list is awful):1. Konshens -- "Gal a Bubble"2. Mavado -- "Cyaa Hold Me Again"3/4. Cham -- "Tun Up"/"Lawless" 5. Popcaan -- "The System"6. Potential Kidd -- "Yah Suh Nice"7. RDX -- "Jump"8. Konshens -- "So Mi Tan"9. Tommy Lee -- "Psycho"10. Bounty Killer & Cecile -- "Ride"
Honorable mentions: Mr. Vegas -- "Bruk It Down" and "Party Tun Up"Busy Signal -- “Kingston Town,” “Come Shock Out” and “Artiste”
Great list, though definitely too male-dominated--I have 3 Tifa songs alone on my 2012 favorites playlist. I hadn't caught that Mavado/Di Genius tune (came out last December apparently), and I've been ignoring Busy's new roots album but that Kingston Town song is niiice.
― rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 00:09 (5 months ago) Permalink
I checked out "Shook" and "Uncle Demon" which are both pretty great and in the same vein as "Psycho."
ha, those are actually the same song. I think I meant "Goat Head" though it's << "Uncle Demon/Shook" and "Psycho"
didn't really realise Jamaican horrorcore was a thing - is there anyone else aside from Tommy Lee doing it?
I'm not aware of anyone mining the same territory as Tommy Lee. After listening to a bunch of his stuff over the past couple of days because of your posts, I'm hoping he's got good management that can steer him well. I almost never like hearing him on a riddim that has lots of other versions--he really benefits from tracks that are as chilly and warped as his lyrics. It could be comparable to the way Cham has made such a big impact this year by sticking to a very particular style of riddim, or, as more of a cautionary tale, how Mavado pretty much only sounded good working with Di Genius.
― rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:41 (5 months ago) Permalink
Buss a Blank also worth your time:
― rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:48 (5 months ago) Permalink
new thread, all welcome: rolling dancehall & reggae 2013
― rob, Friday, 4 January 2013 02:42 (4 months ago) Permalink