Irish Travellers

yes- but more legal shenanigans by the look of it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jan/19/dale-farm-travellers-eviction-battle?newsfeed=true

As far as i know, until the 1990s local authorities in England were forced by law to provide halting sites for nomadic populations. That was abolished, forcing travellers and nomadic Roma groups to settle on private land, which causes all sorts of problems.

At the same time, there's also a responsibility to house them in regular council developments should they wish to take up that option. More and more, in the UK at least, are doing that because it's not worth the hassle of moving from one site to the next, waiting to be evicted.

heh you wouldn't know by my constant waffling but i'm on a phone so can't access articles in real time, will take a look later

srsly tho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FeNq73F6jHI

2.40, 3.20, 4.15 for the real action moments

I just learned Garda is the police? Man, at least one dn makes more sense now.

now i'm watchin fights, can't help it

I watched Knuckle the other week. Those fuckin guys.

Is this what is meant by "I've a horse outside"?

broadly yes, tbh

connors family convicted of forced labour, nasty fuckin details tbh

Irish Travelers use a secret argot or cant known as Gammon. It is used primarily to conceal meaning from outsiders, especially during business transactions and in the presence of police. Most Gammon utterances are terse and spoken so quickly that a non-Traveler might conclude the words merely had been garbled. Most Gammon words were formed from Irish Gaelic by applying four techniques: reversal, metathesis, affixing, and substitution. In the first, an Irish word is reversed to form a Gammon one - mac, or son, in Irish became kam in Gammon. In the second, consonants or consonant clusters were transposed. Thirdly, a sound or cluster of sounds were either prefixed or suffixed to an Irish word. Some of the more frequently prefixed sounds were s, gr, and g. For example, Obair, work or job, became gruber in Gammon. Lastly, many Gammon words were formed by substituting an arbitrary consonant or consonant cluster in an Irish word. In recent years, modern slang and Romani (the language of the gypsies) words have been incorporated. The grammar and syntax are English. The first vocabulary collected from Irish Travelers was published in 1808, indicating that Gammon dates at least back to the 1700s. But many early Celtic scholars who studied it, including the eminent Kuno Meyer, concluded it was much older.

i was gonna try to learn java or c# or something useful, but doesn't this sound fun?

that sounds like bullshit.

I mean more fun, but bullsjit.

when you've heard it spoken it sounds like idk what

tbf i could say the same about english as spoken round my way so pinch of salt with yr gammon

yeh for sure. English is one of the most skewed accents I've heered.

idk the whole secret cant feels too organised a concept. cant/jargon feels like a general language thing.

dont all languages have thieves cants

russian certainly does

lombards probably describe all southern dialects thusly

apparently the 'secrecy' aspect is overstressed

xp probably

i remember after moving the 15th or 16th time all the travellers kids in the new town assumed i was one of em and kept addressing me in gammon for like 3-4 months it was weird

do you look like your parents? maybe you are secretly a traveller by blood and they knew it

by the time you've moved 15 times the blood kinda starts to become insignificant tbph

Cockney rhyming slang and Polari are generally talked about as being "secret" argots as well, i think. idk how true that is in the case of the former.

Is Gammon the same as shelta?

Ah, apparently so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelta

that's lightweight gammon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrKkJOGty7Y

listen away to yerman now. you will have noted the earlier known backyard challenge where a buck sounds like a dog straining at a leash. it only comes to mind after i spent a bit of time on the chronic pulmonary/respiratory ward last week where there was an alarmingly high instance of traveller men- i'd read before that they have a very high occurrence of respiratory diseases alright but it didnt hit home until they outnumbered settlers in a setting like that. i wonder the cause, might look it up.

anyways idk was the mcginley called out here anything to the mcginleys here

http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0218/681180-barney-mcginley/

but man irish travellers what a life.

this fella i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixFQUpLnr3E

i think ive posted this before- last one tonight i promise and this is a serious thread and all but this is the best thing on the internet obv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJXnYG4it8w

unpleasant title but i can't believe nobody has posted this yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8C7ZTbsF-E

"WHY DO YOU LIKE RIDIN HIPPOS?"

somebody needs to remix that Mullingar lads video with a RZA beat

i'm watching that one dmac posted yesterday and i love this:

you fuckin' ring me and you'll apologize to me about what you said on that internet!

you understand that, sausage boy!

a computer champion, yeah

p.s. what is a sausage man, and what are the respiratory problems from? work? smoking? home environment toxins?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PyH0BeckV6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyH0BeckV6E

hi harbl

idk the answer re sausage man could be homophobic or idk what

v quick google suggests genetic predisposition and living conditions and dietary/substance habits all contribute

deems la

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/tyson-fury-boxings-new-folk-hero?utm_source=vicetwitteruk

John Fury is an ex-fighter himself – and a good one, too, going by the moniker "Gipsy" and facing up against English world champ Henry Akinwande in the early-90s. However, in 2011 he was jailed for gouging out the eye of a man named Oathie Sykes at a car auction. John served four years of his 11-year sentence for what he described at the time as "a fair fight between travelling people".

fairs fair

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeJoyce12/status/739023028059791360

think i'm nearly up to my Irish Traveller fighting weight

does he know mickey rourke wasn't really a fighter

I'm an auld man 60 years of age, like boxing and horses, I have never taken a shite in a bucket.