one of a kind list, that's for sure:
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2011/684436/
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
i know so few of those
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
i like his #1 and #8
― Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
Interested in a "what's the highest ranking pazz and jop artist you never heard of"
Eric Church, Chief. which, i mean hes on emi nashville but realistically most of the records on the list that i havent heard but heard of are bcuz of ilm
― HOOS steen is it anyway? (Lamp), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
did you just call whiney 'chief'?
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda liked the Eric Church album.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoyn7zE9Srowhat makes it funnier is look at eric church..i could SOOO see him creepin outside my house..xDStephanieCosby 1 day ago
never heard of EMA myself
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
I like 1, 5, 8 and 10 on Chuck's list. And I'm glad to see he and I weren't the only two to put 2NE1's "I Am The Best" on our singles ballots. (Yes, I filed a singles ballot this year, for the first time ever, and it was all composed of actual singles.)
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
the Church album isn't bad at all -- "Drink in My Hand" is much better than "Red Solo Cup."
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
i thought it was kool to like that destroyer record? or is that indie fucc now?
i like it
the pj harvey record is really amazing i think, i'm glad it finished high
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
i know it's not a surprise at this point but a new Radiohead album hitting #33 in this thing is still pretty incredible
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
I need time to process all of this Drake love.
― Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
now that "Gucci Gucci" is officially the 7th most acclaimed rap song of 2011 maybe deej can stfu about how critics supposedly all hate Kreayshawn
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
considering the amount of attention it got, managing to get 20 critics on board for the song isn't exactly an overwhelming victory. There were more pieces written about how she was a shitty rapper than there were voters for her in a poll
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't heard of:
57. The Men
P.S. - I voted for Drake.
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
i just checked, no one voted for a max b mixtape in 2009
― somebody sh1pley the brinks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:56 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
and the only ones who voted for gucci were like the 5 of us from ilx + noz. what's your point
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
there were more pieces about how drake was a shitty rapper than there were voters for him in the poll. that doesn't mean anything.
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
The critical establishment's dogmatic popism eliminates any consideration of the philosophy surrounding the creative and commercial genesis of music and elevates the aesthetic, so whatever sounds best must be best, and now somehow independent music has wound up in a place where Beyoncé is on the same purely aesthetic playing field that Sharon Van Etten is, because it makes you powerfully, stinkingly uncool to point out that Beyoncé is a meticulously calculated, choreographed, and focus group-approved product of the same system that Sharon Van Etten's forebears in independent music rose up as a direct response to. Suddenly Sharon Van Etten sounds a little thin without the help of a billion-dollar machine. Like Mitt Romney said: "Corporations are people, too, my friend."David Shapiro
nice terrible comment here
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:53 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the fact that 22 critics like kreayshawn doesn't 'prove' that she wasnt overhated either
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
althoguh my familiarity w/ a lot of other artists only extends as far as "i saw their name on a website (usually ilx) a couple times, couldn't tell you a thing about them"
Same. A few of them (e.g., Danny Brown) I hadn't encountered until they started showing up on year-end lists/blog posts/roundtables.
― Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:57 PM (5 minutes ago)
wow
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:05 (twelve years ago) link
thnx @ jordan, I really like Scott PL's essay
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
PRR comin' out swingin'
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
primarily for putting in perspective music that I don't follow particularly closely. It's hard to give these results shape but he did a really good job of it imo xp to myself
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
lol two difft people just tweeted at me that they thought scott seward's comment was mine b/c of the formatting. kind of lol to imagine me writing that one
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
& it looks like alfred wrote my comment
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
Also, why the kvetching about Drake when "Moves Like Jagger" somehow got 11 votes.
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
newest tori amos album didn't get a single solitary vote, damn
― fighting growlbacks bottomless spirit pit (reddening), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
Ha that David Shapiro comment is sooo close to being an MM post about Lady Gaga and autotune and Satanism
― pass the hatchet i think i'm gordon (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
That's what happens when glenn mcdonald does metal-only ballots.
P.S. - Hi, glenn!
xpost
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
dude, deej, i thought i wrote this when i first saw it and i got scared:
Scott Seward Greenfield, Massachusetts
Bon Iver, James Blake, M83, and Girls. Why aren't our heroes pissing more people off? Why are they so polite?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
good comment tho
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
wait if maura did pazz and jop, who did jackin' pop this year?
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
clemenza comments v much in character
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/somanyshrimp/status/159492720224780288
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
what song are you guys singing the thread title to?
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
duke of earl innit
― Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
robbie and becky, duh
― maura, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
i shit on stereogum from time to time but the two ballots closest to mine were from guys that work there so maybe i should stfu
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
<3 j0rdan for voting for patrick stump
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:14 (twelve years ago) link
yes, thankfully p&j ballots are due later than anything
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
Does the phrase "jazz and pop" sound unnatural to anyone itt?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
college - a real hero
seen this song pop up on ballots of three ppl i checked for, never heard of it in my entire life
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh it's from the drive soundtrack, durr
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i say "durr" whenever people rep for the drive soundtrack too
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
spoiler alert: it sounds like m83
for some reason "sure thing" is credited everywhere as miguel ft. j. cole
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah some kind of mixup with "all i want is you" -- i already pointed that out to glenn to hopefully fix
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
listened to stump for the first time tonight, i should fuck with this more
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
whiney why are u posting tweets here?
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
i was kind of annoyed that it seems like everyone is crediting "zan with that lean" to soulja boy instead of kwony cash
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
Great comments this year from Alfred.
― Mark, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
I really like Scott PL's essay
i think hes p much totally wrong in the way hes interpreting the results tbh. esp in that i dont think underground music has reacted to increased hype cycles/technological immediacy by becoming more homogeneous and conservative and that ppl arent making 'bold and brave' (lol) weirdo music? also my gut feeling is that this poll has never and probably will have much overlap with 'the underground's more discerning ears' (and giving that title to the dude who runs gorilla vs bear is just...). we kinda had this argument in last year's ilm poll but what whiney called 'avant-indie' is by nature marginal and anti-consensus and so is going to fair poorly in these polls.
― HOOS steen is it anyway? (Lamp), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link