Scottish Independence - classic or dud

Tories are the second placed party in 4 out of the 6 SNP Westminster seats

"polls have hovered around 35% in favour for years"

i'm guessing pro independence people are probably significantly more likely to get out and vote. i'd say we're perilously close to saying yes to this madness.

it is true that since the UK government went off the gold standard Sterling has been a purely imaginary currency, tbf

Is Paxman on drugs or something?

I know fuck all about the local conditions.

What's motivating Cameron to make this an issue?

Gus O'Donnell. The Civil Service. Osborne. Until a couple of weeks ago Cameron thought Scotland was some place up north where his friends go to do some grouse shooting once a year.

I remember reading about how some Scottish people were annoyed because Paxman referred to Burns as a writer of doggerel. I thought.... mmmm.

tbf i think Paxman was on drugs or something

I remember reading about how some Scottish people were annoyed because Paxman referred to Burns as a writer of doggerel. I thought.... mmmm.

― The New Dirty Vicar

whether or not you agree with that as a description of his work it was in step with several jibes he is known to make at scotland in general, the most notorious being his comparing the preponderance of scots in westminster to british rule of india. a very enjoyable experience for me was watching him on "who do you think you are?" crying when he found out his great, or great great, grandmother had been a destitute glaswegian. take that paxo, you cunt.

Paxman's talent for zinging scumbags is frequently mistaken for genuine positive genius by a chunk of the chatterati, but i've rarely seen evidence of his towering intellect.

Would this in any way affect the 2012 shooting schedule of Doctor Who? I think that's probably the most important consideration...

Paxman's talent for zinging scumbags is frequently mistaken for genuine positive genius by a chunk of the chatterati, but i've rarely seen evidence of his towering intellect.

― summer sun, something's begun, but uh-oh those tumblr whites (Noodle Vague), Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:32 PM (38 minutes ago)

rarely have i seen the word never more unfortunately elided

paxman is a cunt, a doughy minded lowland british shithead, and i hope he distends so i can call him a fat cunt

I just watched part of that. Wtf?! Paxman comes across as a total twat.

plue sa chonge

Cameron launching his campaign to break up the Union

First Rangers, now the United Kingdom... what fresh hell awaits for Unionists?

SO glad that other people hate Paxman. Dude is a fucking bully.

LOL stupid pic on BBC site

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58536000/jpg/_58536850_014020987-1.jpg

man i could murder a bowl of porridge

When the oil runs out the porridge will still be, uh, flowing

snp's campaign should be to get everyone drunk before the poll and play them "letter from america".

Poll date: 01/01/2014, 1am-4am

Apparently the unionist campaign better together think this is a good reason to vote no to independence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asD_fBJeEg4

wee dugs and sausage rolls. I bet thats convinced you noo..

tbf i'm pro independence because fuck england, i don't seriously believe there are many compelling arguments on either side

a piece & sausage sure isn't one though. Honestly is this the level of discourse we're reduced to in this country though? I dread to think what this guy is a student of.

what next? a fight between chips n sauce , chips n curry sauce or chips n gravy?

You should poll it.

dont want to start a glasgow vs edinburgh war

i'm afraid you're gonna see arguments at that kind of level throughout the campaign, exactly the same as the stupidity during the AV vote in Britain, because pro politicians and PR firms have nothing but contempt for humanity

anyway, curry and chips or gtf

all the schoolkids in Hamilton have chips n curry sauce for lunch as the tabac at the railway station sells it (open 24 hours if you want some). None of them talk as much pish as Ryan or Better Together.

And NV is right, politicians always treat us as morons. But thanks to the likes of Ryan its no wonder.

btw nv did I ever tell you that a supporters club in Forfar I think it was sold a roll and mince?
I await the Dictator Salmond Will Ban A Roll & Mince headline from The Daily Record.

you can't even get a decent pie at a ground any more

I heard the Killie pie is extortionate

(brown sauce or ketchup on your pie?)

didn't used to have either at a match but i'll have brown at home, i'd rather have nothing than ketchup on a pie

scotch people say this and English people say this amirite /votes furiously

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-condemns-brutal-bedroom-1714231

fuck willie rennie

better thegither

the possibility of people being forced to move into private accommodation and then receiving more housing benefit is brain boggling but i'm sure the whole thing will aggregate out as a spending cut so who cares where the money goes eh?

oops wrong thread

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/07/ian-smart-poles-and-pakis-twitter-scotland-_n_3229038.html?1367933169

http://i.imgur.com/KbFYkOp.png

Can imagine what he was trying to do there, but... I mean even if he'd put big 32pt quote marks around it, even then.. Jeez!

Suspect this dude wd be pretty chill with 100 years of tories in any case, as long as Scottish labour could maintain its little fiefdoms.

"Better 100 years of the Tories than... my shoelaces coming undone when its raining"

"Better 100 years of the Tories than... my internet connection being a bit slow for half an hour"

http://ianssmart.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/three-tweets.html

Now, you can agree or disagree with that sentiment and, with the benefit of hindsight, I should have put the words "Poles and Pakis" in quotation marks for it is clearly a sentiment I was ascribing to others.

ah, apologies that apologize for nothing, my favourite kind

"As an imperialist, class-based state, the UK is poorly equipped to meet the divergent needs of its constituent nations in this rapidly transmuting world. Scotland and England both deserve better, as do Wales and Northern Ireland. Whether the change to facilitate this comes from the 2014 Scottish referendum or not might be important to Scots, but is almost irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The point is that it will happen. The Union Jack is the increasingly shrinking fig leaf that strives to cover the growth of an English nationalism and consciousness, which is visible in almost every aspect of life in these islands over the last thirty years. And that, in a post-imperial world, is how it should be, and probably how it has to be. The problem that the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish have to face, is that they have no place at this party, and neither should they: it just isn’t a great deal to do with them."

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2013/01/10/irvine-welsh-on-scottish-independence-and-british-unity/

the growth of an English nationalism and consciousness, which is visible in almost every aspect of life in these islands over the last thirty years

Uh, really?

you querying the 30 years bit?