you are like this board's #1 anti-rockist
unless you're a secret rockist (about things you like)
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
Lol at "Skipping 557 messages"
― I Don't Believe You've Met M. Bébé (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
didn't we retire the rockism/anti-rockism binary years ago? what's rockist or not rockist about live shows?
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
I'd be happy to have occasional studio missives from a studio-bound, inauthentic LDR persona. I don't think "pop performer complete package" is really relevant when she's mostly selling atmospherics.
This is a lesser gaffe than that "Born to Die" video, which failed because it ruptured the suburban Dorothy Vallens schtick with the European castle setting etc.
― Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
don't you know that watching a pop star play SNL is rockism lexdude? down with the machine, up with the music! xp
― Mordy, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
the idea of thinking that a singer's performance outside of a studio has any bearing on a popist's appreciation of said singer in 2012 seems very bizarre to me
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
you're being pretty reductive and i'm too tired to argue basics right now, soz
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
smh at anyone still being trolled by dayo in an ilm thread
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
don't make me come into the regional thug thread, j0rd
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
dayo's posting shtick originally intrigued me bc of how assured and even cocky it seemed, but future performances revealed it as being hopelessly amateurish, stammering, playacting that maybe seemed more ironic when i first read it. instead of uncomfortably sincere and frightening.
― Mordy, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
who am I, lana del ray
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
what's rockist or not rockist about live shows?
From that K. Sanneh article:
Rockism means idolizing the authentic old legend (or underground hero) while mocking the latest pop star; lionizing punk while barely tolerating disco; loving the live show and hating the music video; extolling the growling performer while hating the lip-syncher.
― Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
i can't deal with jaymc's deliberate obtuseness right now either. there is another part to that clause!!!! jesus christ people.
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
i honestly have no idea why some people are so invested in this weird idea of me as a popist caricature
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
jc
― judith, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
Probably would've given her the right practice to help sell her 'gangsta Nancy Sinatra' image. Do popists think she's doing a good job here?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
shouldn't popists be most concerned about the fact that she only has one good song?
― iatee, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
and the fact that that song is terrible
― sonderangerbot, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
I know it's all silly and naive to want people to perform live but some more live experience would probably benefit her greatly, even w the sound off.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
you don't have to perform live, but if you do, and it's terrible, you can't expect people to ignore it bc after all performing live isn't meant for all artists...
― Mordy, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
people ignore bad performances by artists they like all the time. what is it about iana del ray that makes you go "I can't trust this performer anymore"
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
the ashlee simpson stans are still ashlee simpson stans, right?
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
Ashlee Simpson's jig was hilarious, though
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
(and also she was never a person to be taken seriously as a musician)
watch out I think lex is still reading this thread
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
trust her?
― Mordy, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
― sonderangerbot, Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:47 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Nah that song is still great, fuiud
― I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, the lex is at his most lexist on this thread.
― I Don't Believe You've Met M. Bébé (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
okay, maybe there's a better verb to describe how ya'll feel about her, but nothing about that performance demands 300 handwringing new answers about loni dol ruy
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Time for a new dn
― Das Lexist (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
Save that hand-wringing for Austra...
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like everyone has it in for this girl for no good reason, it's kind of creept actually. and i'm not even into her music...
― I had to google gucci mane (The Brainwasher), Sunday, January 15, 2012 2:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm, there's an element of, like, ppl clamoring to beat each other to backlash & in the most extreme way, "can't fool me!"
― flopson, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
― I Don't Believe You've Met M. Bébé (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, January 15, 2012 4:11 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
getting tired of reading shit like this & "oh, whiney" iet
― flopson, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
OK, you're right, I'll go back and brush up on the basics before I comment again.
― Das Lexist (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
Austra has an entire great album!
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
this thread is what happens when ILX is slow on weekends
― dayo, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
didnt mean to single you or that post in partic out, just find theres been a critical amount of reflexive "oh [poster with scandalous posting style], never change you old fool" type posts lately
great dn btw :)
― flopson, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
this the youtube i was thinking of, where it seems like she is not a completely walleyed perfomer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwL7f57cDJY
― goole, Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
this whole convo will happen again on the ilm eoy poll thread wont it? and that's about 76 places before its announced shes won!
― Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Sunday, 15 January 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
could totally imagine her singing Trash by suede. plus most of dog man star.
― Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 15 January 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
Thought it might be the NY Dolls song.
― Das Lexist (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 January 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
Hmm, her voice actually sounds weaker in that vid and she still seems pretty uncomfortable; I believe that was CMJ 2008.
― Mark, Sunday, 15 January 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
flopson otm, the whole "you are so YOU" thing is just tiresome at this point, every thread doesn't need to become a catalog of which posts are 'in character'
― some dude, Monday, 16 January 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
typical some dude post^
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 16 January 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― flopson, Monday, 16 January 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
this thread was good before the ship derail
― dayo, Monday, 16 January 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
1) whole rockism vs popism has been done to death since seven years ago however2) to deny the distinction has any meaning at all or can ever be useful seems willfully ignorant especially in debate about whether whether latest pop sensation with one good song has any musical talent, ability, etc and accuse others of needing schooling in the basics doubles up on that3) Ergo, posts very much in character
― Das Lexist (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
0) (why even try to post more than one line on iPhone)
― Das Lexist (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 January 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
how many t-swift apologists are going in on LDR about not being able to sing live? just lex?
― some dude, Monday, 16 January 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxljzw1kSB1rn3zv4o1_500.jpg
not gonna lie, that shirt makes me happy
― fighting growlbacks bottomless spirit pit (reddening), Monday, 16 January 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link