Rolling last.fm thread 2012: The Scrobbling

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bah. can a mod remove those please?

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 13 January 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks to Turrican I've now discovered manual scrobbling through the Universal Scrobbler. All outloud sessions will now be recorded.

emil.y, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

:D

Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 January 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

I remain http://www.last.fm/user/Abandoned_Brain but have become less obsessive about making sure I'm scrobbling.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 13 January 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

<Grumbles about free stuff>

Last.fm seems to have increased its auto-correcting of artist names that aren't wrong to a completely different artist.

So I now have a bunch of scrobbles to e.g. The Scorpions instead of Scorpion, and the latest one is partic annoying cos the artist bio even says "not to be confused with" - Jazzy Jeff of Funky Four gets changed to DJ Jazzy Jeff of Fresh Prince fame.

I'm sure it used to let you revert auto-corrects but now all you can do is "flag" it which does nothing.

</Grumbles about free stuff>

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

My iPhone won't scrobble for love nor money any more, and hasn't doen for a couple of months. I've tried different computers, even. Just tells me it found 0 scrobbles. I manually manage my iPhone as I hate having to muck around with Itunes libraries and stuff. Wonder if this is the prob? Anyone else having trouble?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah my ipod hasn't scrobbled since Itunes 9 came out.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

re:autocorrect...Apparently the John Osborn mnml ssgs mix is now by Joan Osborne

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've whinged about it auto-correcting Mandy More to Mandy Moore before, but it irks me greatly. Bah. And yeah, it lets you turn auto-correct off entirely, but doesn't let you do it individually, which sucks.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

You guys just need to admit you love Scorpions and Mandy Moore.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

busted!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've downgraded to a regular Ipod from an Ipod Touch and put Rockbox on it. Does anyone know how to scrobble with that firmware?

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Today's autocorrect - 80s indie band Beethoven to Ludwig van Beethoven, at least that's understandable though.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Getting more and more spam friend requests from bands and labels. No thanks guys, I don't want to be your friend (especially when we have Very Low compatibility).

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

best new discoveries of 2011 http://www.last.fm/bestof/2011/discoveries?limit=100

check #33

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

it seems insane to me that there's no shazam-like app for scrobbling tracks. like, hold up your phone, it identifies whatever's playing and scrobbles it to your last.fm profile.

i've seen many forum posts and abandoned projects on github but nothing like this actually exists, does it?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

^ ?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I also find it marginally annoying that last.fm is so cash poor that you have to be, like, a "premium scrobbler" to get these apps to update the collages and so forth...

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

it seems insane to me that there's no shazam-like app for scrobbling tracks. like, hold up your phone, it identifies whatever's playing and scrobbles it to your last.fm profile.

but then you wouldn't really be listening to it actively, would you? if you just heard the track in a bar or whatever. your last.fm profile should be made up of things you choose to listen to.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 09:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

12 months:

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 09:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

but then you wouldn't really be listening to it actively, would you? if you just heard the track in a bar or whatever. your last.fm profile should be made up of things you choose to listen to.

This is crazy! Why?

But even accepting this (which I don't), who's to say I didn't put that song on the jukebox? Or put a record on the record player?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

And what about all the times you or I have just left Spotify or iTunes "running", and it's played a whole bunch of stuff we never really were listening to, or barely listened to, or actually hated? It all scrobbles..

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

For me last.fm ought to be a record of all the music I've listened to that was worth noting down, and that includes stuff I hear in clubs, bars, friends' houses, the record player, jukeboxes...

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, it should be a reflection of your taste in music. and that stuff you randomly hear is not part of your taste.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

the reason for that being that one of the main ideas of last.fm is that it recommends music and friends to you based on what you listen to. if what you listen to isn't necessarily what you like, it fails.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well my scrobbles are mostly just stuff I thought might possibly like or be interested in hearing. I won't know if I actually like it until after I've listened to it.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

fair enough. then the recommendations thing still holds true. my scrobbles are just of albums I like played through the computer.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah the recommendations does still work - also one of the most useful things last.fm does for me is the RSS feed of gig recommendations, so it does help that I do scrobble stuff from my ipod sporadically (when it works which is hardly ever) which tends to be stuff I do actually like.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks, I didn't know it did that. Will have to investigate. I know songkick does it, but I hate songkick.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

For me last.fm ought to be a record of all the music I've listened to that was worth noting down, and that includes stuff I hear in clubs, bars, friends' houses, the record player, jukeboxes...

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), zondag 19 februari 2012 14:23 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, it should be a reflection of your taste in music. and that stuff you randomly hear is not part of your taste.

― ban this sick stunt (anagram), zondag 19 februari 2012 14:29 (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, are you from the last.fm police? If Trayce wants her profile to track everything she listens to, why not let her? As if there is a rule how to use lastfm!

I use my lastfm for the exact same reason Trayce does. I don't use the recommendation thing at all, it's useless for me.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

?

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh I see hehe, soz

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lol, are you from the last.fm police? If Trayce wants her profile to track everything she listens to, why not let her? As if there is a rule how to use lastfm!

well, she said it ought to be one thing and I said it ought to be another thing. not sure why it's ok to say one but not the other.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

No, I'm saying it's silly to say what website usage ought to be. Tracer just said how he used, you said how it is supposed to be used.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well I dunno, saying that "last.fm ought to be a record of all the music I've listened to that was worth noting down" sounds pretty much like a statement of how it is supposed to be used to me, but whatever.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nice use of c&p to get rid of the "for me" that prefaced that statement.

emil.y, Sunday, 19 February 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

you're welcome to add it back if you like, it doesn't make any difference to the point I was making.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 19 February 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

You didn't address the issue of me choosing to put a record on my turntable, or choosing to put a record on a jukebox. Both of those scenarios fit your definition of tracks that I've actively chosen to listen to, and there's currently no way to scrobble them automatically (you can always use the Universal Scrobbler, but I'm not doing admin work in a bar..).

Beyond that, though, there's PLENTY of stuff I listen to that I don't like. Youtube links somebody sends me, a compilation full of tracks I don't know, hell, a whole album full of stuff that I want to learn about but in the end decide eh - not for me. It all gets scrobbled. Unless I go back and unscrobble them. I don't even know if you can do that. But cf my last graf about doing admin work.. Life's too short.

So already, by your definition, last.fm is "failing" because I suspect many, many people listen to songs they don't necessarily like, not just me. But you know, it still sort of basically works. Even if I don't like the new Gui Boratto single very much, it's still valuable for recommendation purposes for last.fm to know that I like Gui Boratto in general.

Keeping on this train of thought, about recommendations and building a profile: if I'm out in a bar or a club or a friend's house and the radio's on or whatever, and I REALLY LIKE a song, enough to launch an app on my phone to scrobble it, or to find out what it is, surely that is valuable information for last.fm to have. It should maybe even be given more weighting in whatever algorithms the last.fm chipmunks use to create recommendations.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

you're welcome to add it back if you like, it doesn't make any difference to the point I was making.

― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:39 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes it does. The words you used specifically indicated that you were stating how last.fm should be used by everyone. The words Tracer used specifically indicated that he was stating how he feels it should be used by him.

Look: your last.fm profile should be made up of things you choose to listen to. Here you say 'your' last.fm profile. You don't say 'my' last.fm profile. So you're not just saying what you want to do with it, you're setting limitations on what other people should be allowed to do with it.

And now Tracer's response: For me last.fm ought to be a record of all the music I've listened to that was worth noting down, and that includes stuff I hear in clubs, bars, friends' houses, the record player, jukeboxes... All of this is personal, using the 'I'. All of this is simply what Tracer wants to do. He's not saying YOU have to do it too.

And you again: no, it should be a reflection of your taste in music. and that stuff you randomly hear is not part of your taste. Which not only isn't true, but is explicitly saying 'YOU'RE USING IT WRONG YOU CAN'T DO IT LIKE THAT'.

emil.y, Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 20 February 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks Emily, I didn't have the energy to break it down like that, but that's how I read it. And I read it like that because it is precisely how anagram said it.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 February 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I actually hardly ever use the recommendation functions. For me it's more of a cheat sheet of what friends have been listening to (and a way of remembering what I have). If there's a better tool for that I'm all ears.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

That said, if history is any guide in a couple of weeks I will stop using last.fm for a year or two.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

So, If This Then That is kind of interesting for these purposes: http://ifttt.com/wtf

It is designed to link up your social media accounts to cross post -- and you can have it, say, link up your last.fm scrobbling to something you check regularly, like your Evernote account. Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to get it to send a list of things I've listened to, and it ends up creating a new note for every song I listen to on Spotify, which is totally unnecessary.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

it does look like it's limited to 'on every scrobble' and allows no grouping of data. there are a bunch of recipes that update facebook on a scrobble or a love but none that does what you want.

koogs, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

(oh, i have got both ends of that completely wrong, it's not lastfm and it's not facebook. same thing applies though, no batching)

koogs, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think you could potentially do it via the last.fm RSS feed, which I think does do batches...

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

And I answer my question: nope, still single entries.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hehehehe! Gimme a chance, I only started this yesterday! :P

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 30 November 2012 18:18 (5 months ago) Permalink

Your musical compatibility with TheJupiter8 is Medium

Music you have in common includes Japan, The Cure, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, The Stranglers and New Order The 80s.

studge_siren.gif (onimo), Friday, 30 November 2012 18:33 (5 months ago) Permalink

HA! Yeah, I'm on a bit of an '80s kick at the moment... having said that, when am I not?

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 30 November 2012 18:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

We're super! Except for Smashing Pumpkins, not super.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 30 November 2012 18:45 (5 months ago) Permalink

very low :(

ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:00 (5 months ago) Permalink

Not enough Alicia Keys Alicia, eh? :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:03 (5 months ago) Permalink

Your musical compatibility with TheJupiter8 is VERY LOW
Music you have in common includes Simple Minds and Kraftwerk.

Pretty sure I've only ever scrobbled one Simple Minds track ('Twist/Run/Repulsion', which I genuinely think is great).

emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:11 (5 months ago) Permalink

Your musical compatibility with TheJupiter8 is HIGH
Music you have in common includes XTC, Tubeway Army, The Smashing Pumpkins, The Human League and Ultravox.

Cool!

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:41 (5 months ago) Permalink

Your musical compatibility with TheJupiter8 is Very High

Music you have in common includes Pet Shop Boys, New Order, Depeche Mode, The Cure and The Smashing Pumpkins.

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 30 November 2012 21:44 (5 months ago) Permalink

Love last.fm

Mine

everythingsgross, Friday, 30 November 2012 23:54 (5 months ago) Permalink

Your musical compatibility with lipwreck is Super

Music you have in common includes A Place to Bury Strangers, The Jesus and Mary Chain, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Mogwai and Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.

studge_siren.gif (onimo), Saturday, 1 December 2012 16:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

12 months for Sombrehombre:

Chinchilla! Chinchilla! Chinchilla! (Sanpaku), Saturday, 1 December 2012 18:19 (5 months ago) Permalink

2 things:
* all of my neighbo(u)rs are male
* their 10 years of scrobbling stats are amusing -- I would not have guessed so many people had deleted Gaga.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:08 (5 months ago) Permalink

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/dec/13/lastfm-desktop-radio-service-paywall

^ Last.fm to start charging for radio plays, no mention on what this means for scrobbling and play stats

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 17 December 2012 10:43 (5 months ago) Permalink

Personally I don't use the radio thing AT ALL, now we're in the Spotify era. Who would even pay for such a thing? What a terrible idea.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 17 December 2012 10:46 (5 months ago) Permalink

Anyone having trouble scrobbling from iPhone should get the CloudScrob app. I'd been having trouble for months until I got it.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 17 December 2012 10:54 (5 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I'm sure there are other apps out there for this, but my pal Martin developed a quick and dirty one to isolate "new" releases in your scrobbles.

http://rentayeti.com/top2012albums/

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

Is the new last.fm client fucked for anyone else? I'm on a Mac can't get beyond after installation. I've been able to find 1.5.4 to downgrade to, but ipod/iphone scrobbling seems to have vanished.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 09:15 (4 months ago) Permalink

Hey that's very cool... Almost mimics my EOY list, apart from the odd weird placement:

http://rentayeti.com/top2012albums/topalbums.php?username=charlieframe

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 09:46 (4 months ago) Permalink

Algerian_Goalie's Top 2012 Albums
Using Last.fm to figure out which new albums you listened to the most in 2012.
Error 95 - SimpleXMLElement error: String could not be parsed as XML:

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 15:11 (4 months ago) Permalink

^^^ Yeah I got the same

Three days left to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 15:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

hmmm most of these arent 2012 albums
http://rentayeti.com/top2012albums/topalbums.php?username=Algerian_Goalie

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:46 (4 months ago) Permalink

I'll say it again for those who weren't paying attention - CLOUDSCROB for iPhone is brilliant if you're having trouble scrobbling.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:53 (4 months ago) Permalink

I've got that now thanks - seems to do the job.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:24 (4 months ago) Permalink

Martin's app probably isn't maintained all that well, fwiw. I think he just made it for friends to use.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:41 (4 months ago) Permalink

its a cool app

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:02 (4 months ago) Permalink

The last.fm desktop app update is working perfectly fine for me... still getting used to it, though!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:29 (4 months ago) Permalink

So last.fm is pretty useless now if you're running iTunes on a Mac, right? Doesn't autostart with iTunes anymore, but if I try to launch it manually it tells me to close iTunes. Seeing dozens of people reporting the same thing on forums. The lack of any acknowledgment from the last.fm people is the most disturbing part.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 January 2013 03:55 (4 months ago) Permalink

really? works fine on this mac.

Roz, Monday, 21 January 2013 04:00 (4 months ago) Permalink

Hmm, I don't know, I've been having problems for about 6 days now, since I updated.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 January 2013 04:01 (4 months ago) Permalink

to iTunes 11? I've got a lot of other problems with it lol but last.fm wasn't one of them.

Maybe try reinstalling the last.fm plug-in?

Roz, Monday, 21 January 2013 04:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

http://www.lastfm.com.br/user/shin70

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 21 January 2013 11:57 (4 months ago) Permalink

So last.fm is pretty useless now if you're running iTunes on a Mac, right? Doesn't autostart with iTunes anymore, but if I try to launch it manually it tells me to close iTunes. Seeing dozens of people reporting the same thing on forums. The lack of any acknowledgment from the last.fm people is the most disturbing part.

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, January 21, 2013 3:55 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was just coming in here to complain about the same thing! it works fine if you open last.fm manually before itunes, but why do i now have to remember an extra step? why - once a-fucking-gain - does an updated version of a program that WORKED 100% FINE ALREADY just make it worse? why bother?

it also doesn't recognise ipod scrobbles -_-

lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 08:31 (3 months ago) Permalink

It works fine for me- if anything it scrobbles from my iPod more quickly than the old client.

Neil S, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:00 (3 months ago) Permalink

iPod scrobbling is a bit more reliable now for me too, but then I'm running it on Windows. Used to be cases where I'd listen to my iPod constantly for a week before plugging it in and it would scrobble about one album and forget all the rest and I've not been having that recently.

Jaap and roids (NickB), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:09 (3 months ago) Permalink

I still use CloudScrob. The Last.FM app on the iPhone can suck my balls.

dog latin, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:14 (3 months ago) Permalink

Now that's what I call an upgrade.

Jaap and roids (NickB), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:15 (3 months ago) Permalink

apparently there's another update that fixes my issues. god, fuck updates though. NEVER INSTALL UPDATES why do i always forget this?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:24 (3 months ago) Permalink

OTM^ I always do it though :-/

dog latin, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

Last.fm scrobbler seems to work totally fine on anything that isn't an Apple product, I always had problems with it when I used an ipod. Luckily those days are now over.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:28 (3 months ago) Permalink

I updated and then five days later noted that for no apparent reason (it was open, I was signed in) it hadn't been scrobbling anything. DDD:

Bill Goldberg Variations (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:34 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Your musical compatibility with lexpretend is Very High

Music you have in common includes Dawn Richard, Kendrick Lamar, Miguel, Kate Bush and PJ Harvey.

awesome

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:12 (3 months ago) Permalink

you dudes should add my fuckin ass

http://www.last.fm/user/JAMOOL

frogbs, Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:16 (3 months ago) Permalink

it tells you of New and upcoming releases via your last.fm charts

Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 1 March 2013 18:20 (2 months ago) Permalink


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