I can see why Simon would be all defensively "Hey, waitaminit, I wrote that!" when Garfunkel's singing "Bridge." But when Aretha or Elvis sang it, he no doubt beamed and elbowed whomever he's standing next to and said, "Heh...you know, I wrote that."
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 January 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link
horseshoe! we always say with this really absolute certainty that paul simon is so much better than simon and garfunkel but this album was really a huge surprise from me. i think i got confused by the narrative of his own solo stuff where it starts with this really stripped down album and afterwards seems to pick up tricks from all these different experiments and collaborations (jazzy chord shapes, high life bass, shimmering adult contempo production tricks) bit then this album a lot of these ideas are already embedded in it and working in different ways. to the extent that i want to put them all on different simon albums (el condor pasa on the rhythm of the saints, keep the customer satisfied on paul simon, song for the asking on still crazy). the main thing that's happening on this album that he never came back to really is the vastness of them. these voices finding each other in enormous space and the harmonies are out of this world even though i sortof wanted to think of them as being really a bit trite and saccharine before i got properly into it.
― judith, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link
would be great to have a whole late S&G album of just that kind of thing
By rearranging tracks from Bookends and BOTW you could probly make a fantastic version of this
― Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:01 (twelve years ago) link
I love The Boxer with a fierce passion, lieluhlies & all.
Ppl seem a bit cautious about praising it: is that bcz of Dyln's cover?
― it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
I love both the original and Dylan's cover.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
Hard for me to pick a winner here, as there are at least five in the running (first three, "The Boxer" and "Only Living Boy"). Big fan of "Customer" and "Frank Lloyd Wright", too. Easily one of my favorite albums of the 70s.
I grew up with Bridge Over Troubled Water, as S&G and The Beatles were household staples throughout my childhood. I doubt I went more than a couple months during the first decade of my life without hearing one or the other, usually this album or Sgt. Pepper's. As a result, it's sometimes hard for me to really hear BOTW, nostalgic familiarity overtaking fresh perception. For that reason, I've really enjoyed reading judith's responses in this thread. Reminds me of lying on the living room rug as kid, my head between the speakers, marveling at the harmonies and production.
Anyway, The Boxer.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure "El Condor Pasa" was in there somewhere when Abba were writing "Fernando"
― Then in walked Barbara Castle with the Lady Eleanor (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for "So Long, Frank Lloyd Wright" because it is the one that has grown in my estimation the most over my lifetime with the record (it is literally the first record I remember hearing). I thought it was dull as a kid, without the bombastic drums of "Cecelia" or the thunderous booms of "The Boxer" or the sing-along chorus' of so much of the record. But as I've gotten older, the lyrics, the delivery, the subdued bossa vibe have all hit me harder and harder. It's such a lived in song from a couple of guys still in their 20s.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
I should read what I plan to post - that's got some interesting construction and grammatical issues, as always.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 January 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
unrelated to this specific album but posting here cuz what the hell. Apparently this was the b-side to "Fakin' It", and is their only non-album b-side...? weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raaQXN91PHs
have always wondered what the story was behind the sampled dialogue in the middle of Fakin' It, anyone know the background on that...?
― locally sourced stabbage (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 January 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
the correct answer is the title track
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 12 January 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
lol what?
― judith, Thursday, 12 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
i have been listening to this album so much since you started this poll... i still like 'only living boy' the most, its so soft and pretty and self-conscious just the way he sortof drags out the beginning of 'i get the news i need on the weather report' with this hesitant 'ahh' is so amazing
― 404 (Lamp), Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
Fair enough.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
Absolutely no surprises for me there with the top spot, 'The Only Living Boy In New York' is sublime. I'm very surprised that 'El Condor Pasa' didn't come higher, though.
― Turrican, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
me too!
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
"El Condor Pasa" is my least favorite song on the record.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
boo
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
the lyrics are like a holdover from a more cloying, less-self assured earlier period of Simon's songwriting imho
― job kreaytor (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
you only say that because you would rather be a snail
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
well I do leave a trail of slime wherever I go
― job kreaytor (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
^^^(obscure Bloom County joke/ref that probably only Ned will get)
― job kreaytor (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
plax i just want you to know that i am going to compile all your paul simon/simon and garfunkel-related posts and craft them into a book and read it while i listen to this album and all the paul simon albums. which is all i'm going to ever do for the rest of my life.
― horseshoe, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
― locally sourced stabbage (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Well, I know that it's not sampled, and was in fact voiced in the studio by Beverley Martyn (later to marry John Martyn). She's saying 'Good morning, Mr. Leitch' because they wanted to come up with a 'character' for this 'shop scene' in the middle of the song, and Beverley Martyn suggested using Donovan's surname.
That lyric is just basically Paul Simon saying if he'd existed a century ago, he wouldn't be earning money writing songs, he'd be a tailor instead.
― Turrican, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
haha waht that is so random
― job kreaytor (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
love whatever that clinking-glasses sound is in the guitar breakdown of Cecilia
― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, January 6, 2012 11:19 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Are you talking about the instrumental part? That's a heavily limited xylophone, played by Paul.
― Turrican, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
Only Boy in New York is the 'best', but my favourite is narrowly 'Song for the Asking'. That cello counterpoint! So beautiful. Especially given how it fades in from the audience applause at the end of Bye Bye Love.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 13 January 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
I'm in two minds about the length of 'Song For The Asking'... some days I wish it was longer, but on others I think the length of it is just perfect.
― Turrican, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
wow what a great song "keep the customer satisfied" is!
― horseshoe, Friday, 13 January 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it is, love that final orchestra hit
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 13 January 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
baby driver rightfully marginalized as the james taylor cover it is
― Mordy, Friday, 13 January 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
its also like magnificently sequenced the songs i already knew seemed so much punchier in this context.
this is so true! i finally get "the boxer."
― horseshoe, Friday, 13 January 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
everywhere i goi get slanderedLIIIIIIIIIIBELEDi hear words i never heard in the bible
― horseshoe, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
but the best part of breaking upis when you're making up with me
― judith, Monday, 16 January 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
the 75 minute doc i was burbling about upthread starts on BBC4 UK in about 25 minutes and will then be available to watch for about a week afterwards. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0171r6x
― piscesx, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
I just want to throw this on here:
http://lightbulbhead.tumblr.com/post/16178795155/b-b-s-g
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
aw the BBC doc is UK only...
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 21 January 2012 09:15 (twelve years ago) link
top two are abt right
― plax (ico), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think i ended up voting, but it would have been "only living boy," though "keep the customer satisfied" was a delightful discovery i might never have made if not for this thread! i was seriously wrong about simon & garfunkel.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
i know! how embarrassing. im saving bookends. dont anyone try to poll this without me or ill find out where you live
― judith, Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
listening to this LP back to back with solo simon stuff just reminds me how much he needed to cut artie out.
sorry artie.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
not that there isn't really good stuff on this LP, but that overall it feels kind of watery, and even the best songs are a bit hampered by the vocal arrangements.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
So Long FLW is the best wreckognize
― President Keyes, Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know David Browne's writing at all, but I'm really looking forward to this:
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/crosby-stills-nash-young-enchant-london-audience-in-1970-20110601/1000x306/main.jpg
I ordered it the minute I saw it, not realizing it wouldn't be out for months.
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
and even the best songs are a bit hampered by the vocal arrangements.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 10 February 2012 22:26 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― flopson, Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:53 (twelve years ago) link
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― flopson, Saturday, 11 February 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
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― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 February 2012 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
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― flopson, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link