MADONNA - MDNA (2012)

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like Matt I read the MDMA bit of it as indicating something Housier and more fun than dubstep

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxp: Lex, you're talking about someone who released "Give It To Me" as a single, on what grounds are you basing this trust

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

also MIA and Nicki on one track? it's a bit blatant/desperate

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh and yeah agree about the "DNA" part of it too

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

MIA's probably the most desperate one in that equation.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

just think Madge cd've picked a subtler way to tell us she's "with it"

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

right - weed is the dubstep drug of choice surely. mdma + dubstep = DNW

― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but Lex--all the nuubsteppers are into the "rave scene"!!!

it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxp: Lex, you're talking about someone who released "Give It To Me" as a single, on what grounds are you basing this trust

memories receding ever rapidly into the past ;_;

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Her best titles are always based on her name - her debut, Like A Virgin, Like a Prayer, The Immaculate Collection, even COADF, and now this. It's already been said but she really does have the fucking luckiest name in music history.

I'm just hoping the first single is a red herring built around the Superbowl and album is actually destroys.

prolego, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

*the album is

prolego, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

weed + madonna + dubstep does not sound terrible if her vocals are produced right

surm, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's a bit of that new song that sounds a lot like 'Bohemian Like You'

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i.e. terrible

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

^yeah

it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The release of 'MDNA' has been marred slightly by the leak of an early version of the first single, 'Gimme All Your Luvin' in November last year, for which a Spanish man was arrested in December."

Gosh, it must have been a really terrible version.

Oh shit, that's my bone! (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, that could be a mediocre single from any number of acts. But mostly sounds like peppy Britney, c. Toxic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

not a zz top cover i take it

goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Genesis P Orridge in the You Tube up thread?

Doran, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

the dubstep middle 8 is the most hilarious musical development of the past year

thug eclair (The Reverend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Perhaps a bridge too far to think that the MDMA pun would have any relationship to the style of the music - Madonna doubtless is just pleased that it codes as youthful, electronic etc.

If you take a really wide lens approach that basically thinks of MDNA as = young people at raves then perhaps she ought to have gotten Skrillex to produce the whole thing.

OTOH her last single was produced by Paul Oakenfold and had appropriately euphoric aspirations (also was not very good).

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's time for more ABBA samples.

skip, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

madonna + dubstep = lou reed + metallica

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

She should do an album with The Knife and Planningtorock

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

most importantly every single video should include her treating a DDR machine like a stripper pole IMO

tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is there even any indication that that dubstep-breakdown-thing is part of an official release?

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's a triple pun right? her own name, mdma + referring to a generation of fans and artists who have her in their dna

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

such a limp stab at a dubstep bridge too. sounds like it was made by some pop producer who tried to approximate skrillex using keyboard presets and doesn't actually know how to work an lfo.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is there a dubstep template in Garageband yet?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe she could get MSTRKRFT, BNJMN, SBTRKT and other producers who hate vowels on board.

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

KMFDM too.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

kissing my...?

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kein Mehrheit Für Die Mitleid

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

or rather, Keine Mehrheit Für Das Mitleid

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's German disco, Lex. Kinda.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

(Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit would make more sense)

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

most importantly every single video should include her treating a DDR machine like a stripper pole IMO

― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:36 PM (1 hour ago)

^^^

teledyldonix, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."

I had this disc and never thought about the title much but wow that is good

frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

All these producer ideas are terrible at a time when the phone presumably still hasn't rung for Dennis Ferrer and Quentin Harris.

Pretty sure I read that the album was being produced by Martin Solveig? Which isn't terrible but isn't exactly very exciting either.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

KMFDM = Kill MotherFucking Depeche Mode

DavidM, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost Unless it all sounds like "Rocking Music".

Tim F, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe she should just make a lolspk moombahton album like Nadia Oh's.

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

martin solveig is definitely terrible, think i'd rather skrillex

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't think madge's voice is quite up to dennis ferrer/quentin harris levels of production though - they best frame house/r&b divas who can BELT IT OUT.

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quentin Harris? Calvin Harris more like

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Isn't this being produced by William Orbit?

lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

KMFDM = Kill MotherFucking Depeche Mode

KMFDM = Knights In Satan's Service

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Y'all make me think this'll be her Blackout.

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

she had her blackout already in 1992

prolego, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Her best titles are always based on her name - her debut, Like A Virgin, Like a Prayer, The Immaculate Collection, even COADF, and now this. It's already been said but she really does have the fucking luckiest name in music history.

OTMFM

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

so glad this bombed in the US.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

By referring to Madonna as a fairground stripper, Elton has basically described 99% of all female pop singers out there today. Their shtick consists of look changes, showing a boob, showing a piece of ass, pretending to be bisexual etc etc etc. The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.

I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?

Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here let me just fix that up for you

The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.

I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?

Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I listened to Hard Candy a couple months ago and it didn't seem nearly as bad as I remembered.

I don't think I've ever been more wrong, more often, more vehemently, in as many different ways, over a longer period of time, and with as many supposedly clear-eyed self-revisions as with Madonna. There was never a Madonna album I liked on first listen. I'm still suddenly falling in love with old singles I hated. It's all on an upward curve, though, so there's something pleasingly right to me about her confidence, which makes me laugh. I feel silly offering strong opinions about her music at all anymore, one way or the other (given how much I now like Hard Candy, I suspect MDNA is better than this thread's borderline consensus, but of course I'm going to think that).

I will say, I now might vote the other way on that TS: Madonna vs. Elvis thread. The not-trying/not-showing-up-to-the-studio quality discussed above strikes me as a refinement of something that was always mysteriously there (or not there) in her singing. To me it's the sound of close, fascinated, concerned attentiveness to the contours of a melody just within reach of her ability, almost child-like with wonder or conscientiousness or both, but which winds up registering emotionally as all kinds of intimacy and attitude. Or maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm beginning to think I'd love her if she'd never released anything but the last two albums...

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I am at the show in Philly right now. Her opening act is a DJ playing an hour-long set of 45-second snippets of songs while everyone just sits and watches.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also he has played FOUR Madonna songs as well as the opening riff of "Eye Of The Tiger". This guy is the WORST and his only shot of redeeming himself is playing "If Madonna Calls" or maybe even just "Queen's English"

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

What hath Girl Talk wrought.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy shit that was so much fun.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 06:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

So we found tickets for the show tonight on eBay for $35 each. Wisely skipping the opening DJ.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 04:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Two hours of Vigilant Citizen pop-celebrity Illuminati/Osiris shlock set to dubstep. Some parts legitimately great, but weird apocalyptic vibe was more off-putting WTF than ridiculously engaging. Suspect Roger Waters would like this show a lot.

More than once, gf and I turned to each other and said "is she really drunk?"

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

So apparently her entire next album was leaked months ahead of time?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a617162/madonnas-new-album-leaks-in-full-months-before-it-is-announced.html#~oYIxu0W7UvC4R2

Greer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 14:57 (5 days ago) Permalink

well demos she was working on this summer

supposedly it got leaked because brazilian fans were getting mad she was spending too long on the album.

prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:04 (5 days ago) Permalink

oh brazil

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:34 (5 days ago) Permalink

I listened to this album a few months ago for the first time since fall '12. It holds up better than I thought (the final stretch ain't bad) but no way is it other than third tier Madonna.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:38 (5 days ago) Permalink

"bitch i'm madonna" may be her worst ever anything

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:43 (5 days ago) Permalink

well it is a sophie/diplo production

prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:47 (5 days ago) Permalink

though maybe madonna causing pc music to jump the shark could prove her greatest contribution to music in a decade

prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:57 (5 days ago) Permalink

I think I like MDMA nearly as much as Confessions, which means it's my 2nd favorite Madonna album since 1995.

Eric H., Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:18 (5 days ago) Permalink

so she's put the album up for pre-order and chucked out those songs that leaked as early downloads. 13 other tracks will come in march.

while it's probably a smart move, i don't exactly like the precedent of brazilian hacker stans being able to force the hands of their favourite artists (although considering north korean hackers seemingly managed to stop the interview's release this might prove the future).

prolego, Saturday, 20 December 2014 12:26 (2 days ago) Permalink

unholy brazilian madonna fan/kim jung-un alliance will destroy western civilization

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2014 13:39 (2 days ago) Permalink

The wikipedia article says that there has been a "slurry of unexpected album content leaks". Giggle.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Saturday, 20 December 2014 13:51 (2 days ago) Permalink

"devil pray" is the best thing here. it wouldn't sound too out of place on american life (save for the fact she's left kabbalistic musings behind for a hallucinatory drug trip through catholic hell). that folktronica sound is really such a comfortable fit for her in many ways, and in hindsight kind of makes me think she axed mirwais too soon.

"ghosttown" is fairly standard tedder-esque balladry (he's got a writing credit on "devil pray" but not this which feels like a mistake) but she sounds so much better vocally on it that she has in years and it makes such a difference. someone in her team needs to tell her to stay in her lower register because when she veers out of it she ends up sabatoging even potentially great material. but we've discussed this here ad nauseum.

"bitch i'm madonna" remains terrible (what the hell is that drop?!) and sophie needs to stop existing already. poor nicki getting roped in when she's already had a bad enough week.

i don't even know what the fuck "illuminati" is, but i've long expected madonna to become music's norma desmond so in a way it makes more sense than anything else here. i wish she's stop with this rebel heart nonsense and just call an album i am big, it's the charts that got small already.

prolego, Saturday, 20 December 2014 15:15 (2 days ago) Permalink

Just listened to the iTunes samples. They are terrible, every one of them. I didn't like MDNA or Hard Candy either. When is it time for me to finally give up?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 20 December 2014 16:16 (2 days ago) Permalink

Oh man "Living For Love" is some awesome throwback piano-house Masters at Work shit

fgti jaq, it's chinavision! (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 December 2014 04:45 (Yesterday) Permalink

that was my impression, just the vocal melody uh needs work

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 December 2014 06:25 (Yesterday) Permalink

BITCH *clap* I'M *clap* MADONNA *clap*

j. winters (josh), Sunday, 21 December 2014 07:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

This btw: Madonna - Rebel Heart (2015)

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 21 December 2014 08:16 (Yesterday) Permalink


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