MADONNA - MDNA (2012)

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huh, reminds me of the nicola roberts record

that's why i don't want to hear it again, it was terrible and i TRUST that she will change everything about it before it's fit for public consumption

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

is that youtube the demo that leaked a while back? b/c i don't want to hear that again

It's a newer, more polished leak apparently. It sounds like a rejected Fefe Dobson song with a dubstep bridge to me.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

like Matt I read the MDMA bit of it as indicating something Housier and more fun than dubstep

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxp: Lex, you're talking about someone who released "Give It To Me" as a single, on what grounds are you basing this trust

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

also MIA and Nicki on one track? it's a bit blatant/desperate

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh and yeah agree about the "DNA" part of it too

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

MIA's probably the most desperate one in that equation.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

just think Madge cd've picked a subtler way to tell us she's "with it"

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

right - weed is the dubstep drug of choice surely. mdma + dubstep = DNW

― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but Lex--all the nuubsteppers are into the "rave scene"!!!

it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxp: Lex, you're talking about someone who released "Give It To Me" as a single, on what grounds are you basing this trust

memories receding ever rapidly into the past ;_;

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Her best titles are always based on her name - her debut, Like A Virgin, Like a Prayer, The Immaculate Collection, even COADF, and now this. It's already been said but she really does have the fucking luckiest name in music history.

I'm just hoping the first single is a red herring built around the Superbowl and album is actually destroys.

prolego, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

*the album is

prolego, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

weed + madonna + dubstep does not sound terrible if her vocals are produced right

surm, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's a bit of that new song that sounds a lot like 'Bohemian Like You'

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i.e. terrible

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

^yeah

it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The release of 'MDNA' has been marred slightly by the leak of an early version of the first single, 'Gimme All Your Luvin' in November last year, for which a Spanish man was arrested in December."

Gosh, it must have been a really terrible version.

Oh shit, that's my bone! (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, that could be a mediocre single from any number of acts. But mostly sounds like peppy Britney, c. Toxic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

not a zz top cover i take it

goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Genesis P Orridge in the You Tube up thread?

Doran, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

the dubstep middle 8 is the most hilarious musical development of the past year

thug eclair (The Reverend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Perhaps a bridge too far to think that the MDMA pun would have any relationship to the style of the music - Madonna doubtless is just pleased that it codes as youthful, electronic etc.

If you take a really wide lens approach that basically thinks of MDNA as = young people at raves then perhaps she ought to have gotten Skrillex to produce the whole thing.

OTOH her last single was produced by Paul Oakenfold and had appropriately euphoric aspirations (also was not very good).

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's time for more ABBA samples.

skip, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

madonna + dubstep = lou reed + metallica

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

She should do an album with The Knife and Planningtorock

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

most importantly every single video should include her treating a DDR machine like a stripper pole IMO

tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is there even any indication that that dubstep-breakdown-thing is part of an official release?

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's a triple pun right? her own name, mdma + referring to a generation of fans and artists who have her in their dna

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

such a limp stab at a dubstep bridge too. sounds like it was made by some pop producer who tried to approximate skrillex using keyboard presets and doesn't actually know how to work an lfo.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is there a dubstep template in Garageband yet?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe she could get MSTRKRFT, BNJMN, SBTRKT and other producers who hate vowels on board.

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

KMFDM too.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

kissing my...?

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kein Mehrheit Für Die Mitleid

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

or rather, Keine Mehrheit Für Das Mitleid

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's German disco, Lex. Kinda.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

(Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit would make more sense)

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

most importantly every single video should include her treating a DDR machine like a stripper pole IMO

― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:36 PM (1 hour ago)

^^^

teledyldonix, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."

I had this disc and never thought about the title much but wow that is good

frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

All these producer ideas are terrible at a time when the phone presumably still hasn't rung for Dennis Ferrer and Quentin Harris.

Pretty sure I read that the album was being produced by Martin Solveig? Which isn't terrible but isn't exactly very exciting either.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

KMFDM = Kill MotherFucking Depeche Mode

DavidM, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost Unless it all sounds like "Rocking Music".

Tim F, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe she should just make a lolspk moombahton album like Nadia Oh's.

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

martin solveig is definitely terrible, think i'd rather skrillex

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't think madge's voice is quite up to dennis ferrer/quentin harris levels of production though - they best frame house/r&b divas who can BELT IT OUT.

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quentin Harris? Calvin Harris more like

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Isn't this being produced by William Orbit?

lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

KMFDM = Kill MotherFucking Depeche Mode

KMFDM = Knights In Satan's Service

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Y'all make me think this'll be her Blackout.

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

A friend and I were discussing this story last night, and how much more adeptly Richie has marketed himself to the Target and Walmart crowd.

Also, from what I've read and been told, it's a much better record than it has a right to be: better than Madonna's.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lionel Richie has been ready for the middle-age market since before Madonna was recording

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

whereas Madonna has no idea she IS the middle age market

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

no way all the hip dance kids totally love her amirite

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

she'll have her "believe" yet, i'm sure

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

read the comments on that Forbes article

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

This whole Madonna/Lionel thing suddenly makes me feel like I'm living in a weirdo version of the 80s.

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, i passed by an electronics/music store downtown that had a new release slate and it was
MADONNA
IRON MAIDEN
LIONEL RICHIE
KATY PERRY

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Leftsetz ragging on Madonna almost makes me want to buy this

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha

The Reverend, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Madonna‘s “MDNA” album had the biggest second week drop in chart history last week, I am told.

well she's all about the drop these days right?

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

www.rimshot.com

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

which does not lead where i woulda thought it would

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

This album is not actually as unrelentingly terrible as you ppl say it is.

It does sound, however, like she went to all the trouble of throwing this amazing fabulous party - and then couldn't be bothered turning up for it.

I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 09:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Picks up considerably in the second half, so I'm glad I persisted with it. I Don't Give A and I'm A Sinner have been enjoyable circle rides where she stops crowing about how awesome it is Being Madonna, and gets back to the serious business of, y'know, being Madonna.

I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 09:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy shit, Falling Free.

I cannot believe the difference between the two halves of this album. Like, side 1, which is all "drugs, sex, shooting dudes in the head" is completely phoned in, like she didn't even turn up at the studio, went through the motions, etc. But then the second half, which is all "musings on life and love and ageing and the death and decay of impossible love" and then suddenly she stops phoning it in, and MADONNA turns up.

Like she's only doing the "yay, parties, clubbing!" stuff to fulfill contractual obligations, but the album tracks that come when that's out the way are subtly amazing.

I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 10:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's actually pretty unrelentingly terrible.

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

completely forgot that this even came out

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

It does pick up towards the end, but after that tedious first half-hour I feel like "hey, this isn't completely crap" rather than "ok, this is a good song"

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

so glad this bombed in the US.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

By referring to Madonna as a fairground stripper, Elton has basically described 99% of all female pop singers out there today. Their shtick consists of look changes, showing a boob, showing a piece of ass, pretending to be bisexual etc etc etc. The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.

I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?

Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here let me just fix that up for you

The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.

I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?

Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I listened to Hard Candy a couple months ago and it didn't seem nearly as bad as I remembered.

I don't think I've ever been more wrong, more often, more vehemently, in as many different ways, over a longer period of time, and with as many supposedly clear-eyed self-revisions as with Madonna. There was never a Madonna album I liked on first listen. I'm still suddenly falling in love with old singles I hated. It's all on an upward curve, though, so there's something pleasingly right to me about her confidence, which makes me laugh. I feel silly offering strong opinions about her music at all anymore, one way or the other (given how much I now like Hard Candy, I suspect MDNA is better than this thread's borderline consensus, but of course I'm going to think that).

I will say, I now might vote the other way on that TS: Madonna vs. Elvis thread. The not-trying/not-showing-up-to-the-studio quality discussed above strikes me as a refinement of something that was always mysteriously there (or not there) in her singing. To me it's the sound of close, fascinated, concerned attentiveness to the contours of a melody just within reach of her ability, almost child-like with wonder or conscientiousness or both, but which winds up registering emotionally as all kinds of intimacy and attitude. Or maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm beginning to think I'd love her if she'd never released anything but the last two albums...

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I am at the show in Philly right now. Her opening act is a DJ playing an hour-long set of 45-second snippets of songs while everyone just sits and watches.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also he has played FOUR Madonna songs as well as the opening riff of "Eye Of The Tiger". This guy is the WORST and his only shot of redeeming himself is playing "If Madonna Calls" or maybe even just "Queen's English"

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

What hath Girl Talk wrought.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy shit that was so much fun.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 06:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

So we found tickets for the show tonight on eBay for $35 each. Wisely skipping the opening DJ.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Two hours of Vigilant Citizen pop-celebrity Illuminati/Osiris shlock set to dubstep. Some parts legitimately great, but weird apocalyptic vibe was more off-putting WTF than ridiculously engaging. Suspect Roger Waters would like this show a lot.

More than once, gf and I turned to each other and said "is she really drunk?"

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink


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