Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just got the press release.

Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.

Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.

This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.

That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing

It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

's musical output.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

And Austra.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really don't know what i think of this album

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

really digging this myself

Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really can't believe we have come to a point where evoking the names Stacy Q and Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam results in a positive fucking review. I give up.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love this album cover!

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, is awesome. post in the best of 2012 thread!

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

after being completely underwhelmed by anything i heard of hers before this record (i'm kind of with lex on the voice thing), i'm really enjoying "oblivion" and "circumabient"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 February 2012 01:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fucking adore this record.

Funny that Alex in Montreal referred to Braids upthread as this album strikes me as something of an electronic equivalent, simultaneously tuneful and spacious and drifting (whereas I think Juliana Barwick is a bit of a misleading point of comparison).

"Skin" esp. is wonderful.

Tim F, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

i gave this a few more tries and while there's nothing i actively dislike about her music, neither is there anything hooking me back in - it's all vaguely "interesting", also very unmemorable and lite.

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

cf julianna barwick who hooked me straight away, and gazelle twin whose music i absolutely adore sinking into. grimes has no gravitas.

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

the cover of this record is really really bad. if you're going to rip off the sacred bones design scheme (which i really love), at least do it well!

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

ripoff Sacred Bones serifs + some Cyrillic lorem ipsum + some 1994-bad-sci-fi-book-cover graphics + giant in-class notebook doodle-looking thing = a mess and I like it

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

also ariel gets no benefit of the doubt after that sexist shit he was saying about that girl he took home in that one video, that was low shit

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

idk, i think people are leaping to that reading given all of his other press where he said dumb/offensive things in a deadpan way, for some reason, but saying madonna's music lacks substance these days/for many years, isn't a controversial opinion is it? he exaggerates wildly though by saying she's been shit since before Like a Virgin and putting sugar in mac and cheese would ever be acceptable.

he's trolling because he has a record coming out in november

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

xpost yea in that same "i got maced by a feminist" bullshit interview, he says that gay sex "isn't really sex"
he's not a bigot, just really cynical 'playing the heel'

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:23 (2 months ago) Permalink

what a disaster for the self-aware heel if he's mistaken for a misogynist

da croupier, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

He's not a bigot he's just using hurtful language in a trolling way to get a rise out of people? Call me cray but I think that makes him a bigot nonetheless.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

Actually remove "nonetheless" there

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:28 (2 months ago) Permalink

saying bigoted shit to "troll" is as bigoted as saying it because you "mean it"

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

xp

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

Can't imagine Grimes reasons for saying "Madonna sucks now" in that video were much or any different from Ariel Pinks, i.e, the same opinion of everybody on why she sucks now.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

we've reached the "are people who still claim the issue was ariel saying madonna's music ain't good now trolling or genuinely clueless" portion of the thread

da croupier, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

There are like 8million people ITT and the other one going "IDGI, what's wrong with saying Madonna sucks now?" as if that's the problem, rather than the wording of his statement.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

yeah this is frustrating

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

Can't imagine Grimes reasons for saying "Madonna sucks now" in that video were much or any different from Ariel Pinks, i.e, the same opinion of everybody on why she sucks now.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:33 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tim F, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

there's just something so goofy about the "woah, woah, the guy who casually says sexist shit may be a jerk, but that doesn't mean he's a real-deal, dyed-in-the-wool, my-woman-belongs-in-the-kitchen SEXIST" argument, as if it's important everyone be really delicate and careful in our estimation of egomaniacs who clearly don't give a fuck

da croupier, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

Never underestimate the ability of people to not understand things they don't really want to understand.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 14:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol @ analysing and interpreting the wording of something arial pink says in an interview

he said she should stop gyrating like shes 20. call it ageist if you want, but still no one has bothered explained why it's sexist, let alone misogynist.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

+ I would actually find a dismissive "even though she sucks now" as far 'offensive' than what Ariel said, personally.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

because men are not generally subject to the same type of ageism

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

RT: You're wrong, re-read the thread. Nobody owes you any further explanation you worthless troll.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

- some of the arguments itt are being supported w/citations from youtube comments threads

schlump, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

people getting angry over this haha

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:23 (2 months ago) Permalink

Life, Liberty, Property and the ability to gyrate at any age.

Evan, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:23 (2 months ago) Permalink

people getting angry over this haha

― Raccoon Tanuki, 16. oktober 2014 17:23 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am not angry. I am stating calmly and clearly, that what you write is factually wrong, and that you are a worthless troll. This isn't anger, this is fact. You have nothing to contribute, and you're wasting everyones time. So, quite frankly, shut up.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

you're upset, just calm down.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

I love that gal Grimes. But that weird sheer top she wears with the felt on it, I hope she's not wearing that when she's 80. Amirite folks? I mean come on!

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

keep calm and FP

clouds, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

It's the Calm Police.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

they live inside of my head

clouds, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:28 (2 months ago) Permalink

I'm calm, calm as can be. I'm listening to Stars of the Lid and drinking tea.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

Just going to update this exchange with hopes of keeping this thread delivering for a few more days.

Ariel Pink:

"They need something edgy. They need songwriting," he said. "She can’t just have her Avicii, her producers or whatever, come up with a new techno jam for her to gyrate to and pretend that she’s 20 years old. They actually need songs. I’m partly responsible for that return-to-values thing."
"I guess it’s called ‘throwback’, but the first record was so good because of the songs," he said. "It's been a downward slide (since). Ray of Light is not cool. And all the other stuff she’s done after that, it’s not like it matters. It really shows a drain of values. People need more substance in their mac-and-cheese. People need more sugar or something."

Grimes:

Ariel pinks delusional misogyny is emblematic of the kind of bullshit everyone woman in this industry faces daily. Also Ray of Light is a masterpiece. Even though she sucks now.

everything, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

a.p otm tho tbh

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

no one talking about putting sugar into mac and cheese can ever be OTM

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

He's not saying that you should put sugar in your mac-and-cheese.

He's saying people need more substance in their mac-and-cheese. He's also saying people need more sugar or something. Not necessarily in their mac-and-cheese though. Maybe just have a Mountain Dew at the same time.

everything, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

He's saying people need more sugar. He's saying people need more sugar in their aero-plane sachets, he's saying fuck your mac, he's saying macs don't gyrate covered in sugarwashes and spray you in the face like a feminist outside a healthshake store.

I wonder if Grimes likes the eco-feminists in Futurama. I wonder if Grimes is a really uptight person who cant' take jokes and stuff. I wonder if Grimes talks off the cuff knowingly about things like witch house then mixes it up with a Beiber-is-underrated spin off. I wonder if Grimes spends too much time tweeting and shit. I wonder if Ariel is a crack head with greasy fucking hair like an unfamous lo-fi tramp who nobody knows.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

Quit being so got damn selfish
Put it in ya pelvis
Let it work, gyrate, motivate

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

I wonder if Grimes likes the eco-feminists in Futurama. I wonder if Grimes is a really uptight person who cant' take jokes and stuff.

flagged this post by the way. encourage others to do so too.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

It sickens me how many of her supporters are so patronizing toward her and treat her like a wounded animal who constantly needs defending and pats on the back. I'm a fan of both but her manic-pixie-dreamgirl stuff projected onto her by fans is so bizarre to me.

Ariel gets pat on the back 7 minutes into this.
http://pitchfork.com/news/56089-ariel-pink-i-got-maced-by-a-feminist/

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Clear Butcher @Grimezsz
guitar is just a whole new sonic world, melodically, rhythmically etc,. playing 'irl' music is my biggest inspiration lately

Number None, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:35 (1 week ago) Permalink

the pop-punk grimes album markers deserves

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

i remember her liking Blink 182 in her Amoeba Records 'what's in your bag?'

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:49 (1 week ago) Permalink

http://instagram.com/p/wgFj4FjfiG/

gree hee hee

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:07 (1 week ago) Permalink


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