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I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just got the press release.

Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.

Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.

This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.

That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing

It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

's musical output.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

And Austra.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really don't know what i think of this album

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

really digging this myself

Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really can't believe we have come to a point where evoking the names Stacy Q and Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam results in a positive fucking review. I give up.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love this album cover!

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, is awesome. post in the best of 2012 thread!

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 17 February 2012 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

after being completely underwhelmed by anything i heard of hers before this record (i'm kind of with lex on the voice thing), i'm really enjoying "oblivion" and "circumabient"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 February 2012 01:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fucking adore this record.

Funny that Alex in Montreal referred to Braids upthread as this album strikes me as something of an electronic equivalent, simultaneously tuneful and spacious and drifting (whereas I think Juliana Barwick is a bit of a misleading point of comparison).

"Skin" esp. is wonderful.

Tim F, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

i gave this a few more tries and while there's nothing i actively dislike about her music, neither is there anything hooking me back in - it's all vaguely "interesting", also very unmemorable and lite.

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

cf julianna barwick who hooked me straight away, and gazelle twin whose music i absolutely adore sinking into. grimes has no gravitas.

if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 February 2012 11:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

the cover of this record is really really bad. if you're going to rip off the sacred bones design scheme (which i really love), at least do it well!

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

ripoff Sacred Bones serifs + some Cyrillic lorem ipsum + some 1994-bad-sci-fi-book-cover graphics + giant in-class notebook doodle-looking thing = a mess and I like it

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool story bouch

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

I wrote a song for Rihanna too, got turned down tho, wanna hear it

₴HABΔZZ ¶IZZΔ (Hurting 2), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

re-recorder the visions songs ??
what the !?

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

tbh I'm intrigued. Some of the songs on Visions were cool but missing something.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

hum. I can't see how this could be any good... reminds me of the thread about re-recorded albums (that are always shitty).
anyway, looking forward to the new album !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:13 (1 month ago) Permalink

seems like she only re-recorded the tracks for her live show, not for release? makes sense, i'm sure she feels like she can make them sound a lot better now.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

That's what I was thinking. Bedroom recordings sounding different at pitchfork fest or whatever. Haven't seen her live though, so I don't know.

how's life, Thursday, 5 June 2014 16:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

https://soundcloud.com/actuallygrimes/go-1/

"The look is an anime elf assassin who is a big fan of dolly parton and patsy cline"

<3<3<3<3

I love the percussion in this (and the bass is cool too), like how she's using handclaps where hi hats would be, and the cool metallic kling klang stuff at the end! Grimes is so awesome!

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:21 (1 month ago) Permalink

oh wow.

how's life, Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

how she's using handclaps where hi hats would be

has been done in that exact way on 50 million popular songs in the past 3 years fyi

some dude, Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol at the avalanche of fan comments on there hating the EDM breakdown

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

uh it's decent i guess (not really, kinda boring actually) but if i didn't know it was grimes i don't think i would have given it even one full listen

dyl, Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

i am glad she is angering her fans tho, they need to be angered more

dyl, Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

Right.

I like this song a lot after two listens (wasn't sold after one).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 June 2014 20:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'd say at this point, I listen to a lot of music made my women. Probably more than music made by men. However, it creeps me out beyond belief when I see the fans of a lot of these women claim ownership of the particular artist's will and choices they make, and seeing how people were commenting on the new Grimes track just reminded me of that.

Quit being gross bossy fans, you dopes. These are grown ass women and they can do what they want...even if that means including a drop.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 June 2014 20:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

drop is dumb, song is pretty dumb

call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 June 2014 20:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

But are you suggesting that these fans claim ownership of a particular artist's will and choices because they are female? Because I'm pretty sure there would be the same amount of complaining if a track like this was put out by a male artist, like Panda Bear for instance.

MarkoP, Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm just saying I see it happen more with female artists, but I'm sure Austin Mahone and Twin Shadow and whoever else get a bit of it too.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 June 2014 21:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol at handclaps exchange

on first listen this does a better job of extending the Grimes brand into EDM than the taylor swift single from last summer did hers so w/e

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 26 June 2014 22:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

It doesn't happen more often with women musicians. You're imagining things.

Cousin Slappy, Thursday, 26 June 2014 22:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

apparently this was the song written for rihanna

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 June 2014 22:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah that's the narrative

Number None, Thursday, 26 June 2014 22:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah it could be any fucker this.

piscesx, Friday, 27 June 2014 00:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

However, it creeps me out beyond belief when I see the fans of a lot of these women claim ownership of the particular artist's will and choices they make, and seeing how people were commenting on the new Grimes track just reminded me of that.

Quit being gross bossy fans, you dopes. These are grown ass women and they can do what they want...even if that means including a drop.

people love the DIY aspects of "Visions," which Grimes made on her computer using Garageband. i personally really liked the album in part because the eclecticism of its influences felt really personal, right down to the akhmatova quotes on the album sleeve she designed herself. it's an indie album that appealed to indie fans with indie sensibilities. how do you expect them to react to this song? i get that some of the reactions are probably extreme and over-dramatic but i think most of the backlash is from fans who feel that grimes' music is important to them personally. many are probably teenagers. i don't think it has to do with not respecting her autonomy because she is a woman.

Treeship, Friday, 27 June 2014 01:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

n.b. i like the new track fine.

Treeship, Friday, 27 June 2014 01:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

I haven't really dug around to read any supposed "backlash" but are people really surprised that she has gone hi-fi / come out of the bedroom after previously participating in huge tours with Skrillex and Diplo, signing to Roc Nation, and for many years now professing a love for a lot of major label pop music? Not only that but she played this song a few weeks ago at the Governor's Ball, cameraphone youtubes of which were posted by pitchfork et al, where the presence of a "drop" was fairly evident?

fwiw i don't think her album will all sound like this. I recall 'Go' being labelled on her Twitter as "different from regular Grimes" before she played it live, and the fact that the song is being given away as a free download at least 6-7 months before an actual album release seems to suggest it will eventually be relegated to bonus track status / a fun little anomaly à la 'Phone Sex'.

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Friday, 27 June 2014 01:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

It doesn't happen more often with women musicians. You're imagining things.

o ok wow i'm convinced thanx

dyl, Friday, 27 June 2014 02:03 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah grimes has written at length about how she is constantly patronised by dudes thinking she doesn't know what she's doing as a producer or that she doesn't know anything about musical equipment

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Friday, 27 June 2014 02:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

oh yeah, that's totally an issue. i just think that the backlash against this song is a separate issue and i don't think there is anything inherently sexist about hoping her new album is more similar to her last album than to a skrillex album. it seems outrageously condescending to like, not criticize something you don't like because you think the artist's autonomy is so fragile it must be nurtured and supported at all costs.

on another note, i agree with monotony that i think her new album will sound totally different from both this single and anything she's released in the past. i hope to be surprised by her new album and i expect to be.

Treeship, Friday, 27 June 2014 02:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

It's gonna be children of men jams crazy

Sufjan Grafton, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

i just think that the backlash against this song is a separate issue

Right. I get that people might be taken aback by a style shift as dramatic as this one, but the way some of the pushback has been phrased is the same as I've seen with other female artists—especially the ones who are active on social media. All these fans flock to them very quickly and then get really possessive and creepy about every move they make. Can I cite examples? Not really. It's just a tone I've picked up by following Marina & The Diamonds and Charli XCX and Betty Who and Sky Ferreira and MØ and whoever else and seeing the fawning messages of support turn when something they don't like happens.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah that sounds plausible. people are generally more vicious, abusive, and condescending when they discuss famous women than when they discuss famous men. but would these be the true fans though? i think there is probably also a contingent of (young) people who love grimes so much, and base part of their identities on this fandom, that the idea of her going mainstream feels like, personally threatening. this is how it's always been with cult figures, their fans are possessive.

Treeship, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

Well to be fair, if you're going to make an argument about gender and it's role in the reception of musicians by their fans, you better have more in your arsenal than personal anecdotes and ~creepy feelings. Behind the scenes, yes, women aren't considered to be equals in the music business in 2014. However, that's a separate issue. Brian Wilson was recently taken to task by fans for working with people they deemed not worthy. Does that signal a trend in people trying to diminish the choices and will of people over 65? The original assertion is really reaching for the stars.

Cousin Slappy, Friday, 27 June 2014 03:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeeaaaah I dunno. big fan of Visions but Go is pretty disappointing imo.

dmr, Friday, 27 June 2014 04:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

did video surface of her other 2 new songs performed at governor's ball? I love "go," but she's explicitly said it's different because she wrote it for Rihanna.

Captain Maximus, Friday, 27 June 2014 15:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

Well to be fair, if you're going to make an argument about gender and it's role in the reception of musicians by their fans, you better have more in your arsenal than personal anecdotes and ~creepy feelings.

god i love this. if you want to make claims about sexism, better have a DAMN good case, because if those accused of sexism aren't on message boards, trust that a public defender will be appointed.

da croupier, Friday, 27 June 2014 16:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

I answered my own question and found vid of another new song

sounds really good. couldn't find the other though

Captain Maximus, Friday, 27 June 2014 16:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

Like something from the Nation Records roster.

panic disorder pixie (Sanpaku), Friday, 27 June 2014 22:36 (1 month ago) Permalink

pls list 5 of the 50 million songs that do the handclaps-instead-of-hi-hats thing

NI, Saturday, 28 June 2014 04:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

normally I am the first to jump on the "it's worse for female musicians" argument but this, I think, is universal. the black keys got it pretty bad this album cycle. arcade fire. the weeknd.

katherine, Saturday, 28 June 2014 04:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

pls list 5 of the 50 million songs that do the handclaps-instead-of-hi-hats thing

beyonce - single ladies
kanye west - power
baauer - harlem shake
rihanna - birthday cake
big sean - dance (a$$)
nicki minaj - stupid hoe
juicy j - bandz a make her dance
tyga - rack city
travis porter - bring it back
soulja boy - donk
azealia banks - jumanji
jamie foxx - number one
the weeknd - the fall

not to mention like 90% of new orleans bounce & a ton of other club tracks from the past 20 years

Captain Maximus, Saturday, 28 June 2014 19:21 (1 month ago) Permalink


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