itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

Anyone hear Fader Suite903 No.15? Has a lot of overlap:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1107955

1-1 Garth Trinidad Intro - Thank You
1-2 Sa-Ra Creative Partners Space Fruit
Producer - Sa-Ra Creative Partners
1-3 J*DaVeY Dancehall
Producer - Brook D'Leau
Rap [Featuring] - Kardinal Offishall
1-4 J*DaVeY Lalalaland
Producer - Brook D'Leau
Rap [Featuring] - Elucid
1-5 Coultrain vs Waajeed The Hustler
Producer - Waajeed
1-6 Chuck Brown Block Party
Rap [Featuring] - DJ Kool
1-7 Cool Kids What It Is
1-8 Wale Good Girls
1-9 Wanlov The Kubolor Never Die
1-10 Vieux Farka Touré Sangaré (DJ Center Remix)
Remix - DJ Center
1-11 Mark Pritchard & Steve Spacek Turn It On
Producer - Mark Pritchard
1-12 DJ Vadim Got To Rock (Aaron Jerome Remix)
Remix - Aaron Jerome
1-13 Politik, The Money (Don't Let It Catch Ya) (Maddslinky Remix)
Remix - Maddslinky
1-14 Taylor McFerrin Broken Vibes (Isoul8 Edit)
Remix - Isoul8
Vocals - Vincent Parker (2)
1-15 Ruth Ann Cunningham* Be Free
1-16 Vikter Duplaix Make A Baby (Remix)
1-17 Stoney Rock A Song About Her
Producer - Stoney Rock
1-18 Jill Scott Epiphany
Producer - Scott Storch
2-1 Rocket Science (3) Intro
Producer - GE-OLOGY
Voice [Drop] - Benji B , Waajeed
2-2 Black Pocket U're A Sta
Producer - Steve Spacek
2-3 Bilal Heaven
2-4 Kim Hill Nutshell
2-5 Politik, The She's Gone
Producer - Mark De Clive-Lowe
2-6 Deborah Jordan Home
Rap [Featuring] - Replife
2-7 G&D Time
Producer - Georgia Anne Muldrow
2-8 DJ Spinna Tribute To The G.O.A.T.
Producer - DJ Spinna
2-9 Electric Conversation Hey
Vocals [Featuring] - Patricia Marx
2-10 Replife Spirit
2-11 Umod U Better Recognise
Producer - Domu
2-12 Paola Jean Featherlight
2-13 Spacek They Don't Know You
Rap [Featuring] - Common
Vocals [Featuring] - Ledisi , Raphael Saadiq
2-14 Dolphin (9) Airsounds For Libras
Producer - Dolphin (9)
2-15 Tiombe Lockhart & Waajeed The Overtaking
Guitar - Saadiq
Producer - Waajeed
2-16 Cuba After Market Without Regrets
Producer - Roddy Rod
Vocals [Featuring] - Muhsinah
2-17 Morgan Zarate M.A.B.
Producer - Morgan Zarate
Vocals - Sarah Anne Webb
2-18 GE-OLOGY Longin'
Producer - GE-OLOGY
Vocals [Featuring] - Yukimi Nagano
2-19 Jack Sample Pros Perskryptshyn
Co-producer - JackSmiles.aka.Chordz*
Producer - FlyJack
2-20 Replife Put It Down
Vocals [Featuring] - Kissey Asplund
2-21 Q-Tip Work It Out
2-22 Common Drivin' Me Wild
Keyboards - Omar Edwards
Producer - Kanye West
Vocals [Featuring] - Lily Allen
2-23 Angie Stone Baby

^^^ got me more curious about GE-OLOGY

ws sy smith /ws
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/blog_images/sy_smith-thumb-473x314.jpg
http://mosaicthump.com/soulpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/sy-smith-conflict-201x300.gif
(but i'm a sucker for style)

Listening to the Sy Smith album now and it is sweet.

which sy smith album? i got one of hers a while back cos i loved one or two of her early songs and thought it was really dull. great production but totally song-less.

Yeah, I haven't heard her albums, but that's the impression I got from the track posted upthread.

i tend to think that about a lot of this kind of music though, esp georgia anne. although im not sure she even has the great production thing going for her.

Checking out disc 2 of Fader Suite903 No.15 now.

2-6 Deborah Jordan Home

WHOA!

This track is exclusive to the mix. Was unaware of her before this.

A youtube search turned up one tacky live jazz show that she was featured at. Not worth posting.

Anyone know of any decent tracks out there featuring Deborah Jordan other than this?

2-12 Paola Jean Featherlight

This one's nice too. Also claims to be exclusive to this mix.

Youtube on this one is completely fruitless.

livebloggin my listening...

2-14 Dolphin (9) Airsounds For Libras

ESPECIALLY nice. Possibly the best on this disc yet.

So much of this mix is like early bootlegged Sa-Ra, all off-kilter beat programming.

Including this Cuba After Market & Mushinah jam, which is the jam.

SOO much good stuff on here (with a fair amount of filler that doesn't end up being distracting)

Q-Tip coming off like the Coleman Hawkins on this affair. Like, the old guard who is down, but not fully developed into what's going on.

This Common/Lily Allen track is surprisingly great. Like, GREAT great.

Angie Stone sounds exactly like Angie Stone, kinda O_o why is it on here? Not a bad jam, but typical.

Listened to the Kissey Asplund album last night. Didn't do much for me. Her voice is very slight and her cutesy tendencies grate.

Ahh, that Common song is the worst track on it's not-particularly-outstanding album.

i tend to think that about a lot of this kind of music though, esp georgia anne. although im not sure she even has the great production thing going for her.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, January 5, 2009 5:10 AM Bookmark

Eh, I get "freeform" out of Muldrow's tunes, whereas I get "poorly structured" out of Sy Smith's. One seems to use it as a virtue unto itself, whereas the other just seems to not know any better. I know you don't like GAM at all, so you're not likely to agree.

Wait, what Rev?

Yeah, Common's lyrics are soo ugh, but that beat is hot. Different than the rest of the disc, but you already stated aversion to Dilla-esque production (which that track is).

The album is like most mixed cd's that comes with mags, full of filler, but the idea that even you would dismiss that mushinah jam comes off as ilm contrarian style.

Having only heard disc 2 and finding 5 songs for regular rotation is a better track record than most of my recent acquisitions.

I didn't offer any opinion on the Muhsinah jam!

I haven't heard it.

The "not-particularly-outstanding album" was Common's Finding Forever.

And the Common/Lallen beat doesn't sound like Dilla to me, it just sounds like Kanye being weak sauce. All of Ye's other beats on Finding Forever are better, and so is the Dilla beat! And the will.i.am beat!

WHOOPS, sorry, once again, reading comprehension problems on my part.

I never heard the Common album.

And good call, like a Kanye/Dilla babby, which is more Kanye.

For whatever reason, the mix in question gets "normal" in the last few songs.

On a side note, I still cannot find a taste for Dudley Perkins. The G&D track on here is |>|>

Kanye said he was specifically trying to imitate Dilla in his production on that album (which was recorded in the year after Dilla passed)

I don't got any love for Dudley P. either. What a cornball.

I do like Finding Forever, though in all it's non-outstandingness. It is the rap equivalent of comfort food. No surprises, but feels just right. I just can't stand that particular song cause the beat is meh (I did discover the sample on that Rotary Connection album haha) and Common's raps are the worst he'd done before his new, utterly sad, album.

So why so many G&D collabs???

I mean, talk about hot + cold

"Ladies Sing" by Sa-Ra puts me right in the middle of summer.

haha, NOW PLAYING!

I was about to send you this track too!

oh shit, vulcan mindmeld! haha

The way the beat is chopped is very Todd Edwards.

Checking you lastfm shows we both listend to Strange and Ladies Sing back to back (although I changed my tag to show Leron as the artist, feat. Tiombe).

When you need more GAM, I advise picking up that Pattie Blingh project. It's quickly finding a place in my rotation.

I've heard the Pattie Blingh and love it.

I figured out exactly what is awesome about Tiombe Lockhart and it that all her songs sound like sparse demos of songs that are supposed to be very lush, but work in their stripped-down states anyway.

I wonder if that has to do with her obsession with the band Suicide? She's grown on me a lot over the past week or two.

Anyway, more new:

Paola Jean
6 tracks on her myspace page, including Featherlight, the track featured on the Suite903 mix
www.myspace.com/paolajean1

More of an Acid Jazzy/neo-Soul setting live @ SOB's

http://paolajean.org/
http://cdbaby.com/cd/paolajean2

And the other female diva discovery from suit903, Deborah Jordan:

http://www.myspace.com/deborahjordanmusic

HEAVy:

http://www.myspace.com/whoisheavy

lol after a few months i deleted Finding Forever except for Driving Me Wild. Amazing hook, wish it had been a massive hit.

I liked Lily Allen for about 3 month when I first heard her album and haven't been able to stand her since, so my opinions on anything Lily Allen related are probably taken with a grain of salt.

Yeah i'd agree with this exception, i just really like the floatiness with the rolling piano, poppy and exhilarating to me. BTW this was Duff/G Rap level of o_0 when i realized who it was.

But back to this excellent thread. The things I like a lot: Musinah, Foreign Exchange, Commix, 2nd JDavey, old "hey love" sa-ra from another thread. Things not sure: Little Dragons, Asplund. Things dislike: 1st JDavey. Things I have to contribute: 0 :( Sowwy.

(Anyone know the sample in the Musinah song? Madlib used it for "Happy Home" in Liberation.)

As of the early hours of Wednesday, January 07, 2009, "Ladies Sing" by Sa-Ra is my favorite song ever.

this thread makes me love the world.

Sorry for merely generic comments (maybe it's better that way anyway, because I'll probably just say something stupid otherwise), but I'm struck but how much of this I kindof like, given that I know nothing about almost any of this.

(Oh jesus New Mexico's slow internet speeds plus old Gateway PCs in the library make it impossible to do anything in timely manner.)

Another (2008) double disc mix to fuel the fire of discovery.

Plenty of Muhsinah, SA-RA, and Steve Spacek included:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Various-Assets-Not-For-Sale-Red-Bull-Music-Academy-Toronto-2007/release/1274001

Various - Various Assets - Not For Sale: Red Bull Music Academy Toronto 2007

1-1 Muhsinah & Jake One You (3:56)
Vocals - Muhsinah
Written-By, Producer - Jake One , Muhsinah
1-2 Didem Süzen Something's Gone (4:33)
1-3 TRG , Benga & DJ Zinc Benga Woz Here (4:05)
Mixed By - DJ Zinc
Vocals - Zephec
1-4 Kez YM , David Ryshpan , Mara TK & Randy Muller Oniyama (4:32)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
1-5 bRUNA (3) With Your Fingers (1:29)
1-6 Migumatix vs. MAT64 Toronto Mindgames (4:33)
1-7 Mara TK & Jake One Look What You've Made Of Me (3:23)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
1-8 Om'Mas Keith Trouble Girl (4:08)
Effects (Talkbox) - Todd Osborne*
Vocals - Muhsinah , Om'Mas Keith
1-9 Akiko Kiyama & Ronald Kohn Found In Translation (6:43)
1-10 Africa Hi Tec feat. Rio* Too Late (3:59)
Trumpet, French Horn - Ben Lamar
Vocals - Rio* , Steve Spacek
Written-By, Producer - Mark Pritchard , Steve Spacek
1-11 Zephec Queen St. (6:55)
1-12 Samiyam & Hudson Mohawke Eff This (2:35)
1-13 Kat!Heath! , Dirty Sonix & M.J. Zilla Victoria's Secret (5:26)
Mixed By - Dirty Sonix
Vocals - M.J. Zilla
Written-By, Producer - Cosmin Nicolae , Kat!Heath!
1-14 Baris K. Show You Love (7:27)
Recorded By, Mixed By - Erik Breuer
1-15 Sara Lahey & David Ryshpan No Place (4:34)
Backing Vocals - Torreblanca
Drums - Kez YM
Producer [Additional] - DJ Zinc
Recorded By, Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Sara Lahey
1-16 Dead Leaf Requiem In A-Flat Reprise (5:42)
Bass, Guitar - Lumi
Drums - Kez YM
Effects [Sound Design] - Deaf Leaf
Producer - Dead Leaf
Written-By - David Ryshpan , Paul Jebanasam
2-1 Juba Dance We Will Wait For You (3:59)
Backing Vocals - Aleisha Thomas , Samaek Thenci
Bass - Rio Hemopo
Drum Programming [Additional] - Waajeed
Electric Piano [Fender Rhodes] - Mauricio Fleury
Guitar [Electric] - Clonious, The
Percussion - Vario
Percussion [Body] - Shaheen Ariefdien
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
Synthesizer - Mark Pritchard
2-2 Marks & Muhsinah In Need Of (2:48)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Muhsinah
2-3 Luis Davis & St. Göran* I Am Not Sure (4:17)
2-4 MarToRio Share Of (5:41)
Producer, Recorded By - Marco Passarani , Torsten Schmidt
Vocals - Rio Hemopo
Written-By - Marco Passarani , Rio Hemopo , Torsten Schmidt
2-5 Quareback Dark Ascent (6:02)
Written-By, Producer - Tomá Ivanov
2-6 Marks & Om'Mas Keith Streets Is Cold (3:22)
Backing Vocals - Mara TK
Guitar [Additional] - Kez YM
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Muhsinah , Om'Mas Keith
Written-By, Producer - Markus Salo , Om'Mas Keith
2-7 Tufan Demir & MAT64 Gone Away (4:35)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Muhsinah
2-8 Kat!Heath! , Torreblanca & Sarah Lahey Qué Esperas? (2:48)
Vocals - Sarah Lahey , Torreblanca
Written-By, Producer - Katherine Heath , Torreblanca
2-9 Turbo-Rexx & Granufunk Re-Faust (6:18)
2-10 Clonious, The feat. n.i.a.m.h. & Granufunk Valediction (3:43)
Vocals - n.i.a.m.h.
2-11 Happy Melody Indian Summer (5:45)
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
Written-By, Producer - Marc Codsi
2-12 Makoto , DJ Zinc , Om'Mas Keith & Denius Close To Me (3:37)
Electric Piano [Fender Rhodes] - David Ryshpan
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Om'Mas Ketih
2-13 Tony Allen Jam Session* Interlude (4:00)
Bass - Rio Hemopo
Drums - Tony Allen
Electric Piano [Fender Rhodes] - Theo Parrish
Guitar - Paul Movahedi
Percussion - Ron Trent
Vocals - Steve Spacek
2-14 n.i.a.m.h. & Ronald K.* Falling Star (Reinterpreted) (4:06)
Mixed By - Cubist
Vocals - n.i.a.m.h.
2-15 Sarah Lahey & Om'Mas Keith Get Over It (4:24)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Sara Lahey
2-16 Tufan Demir & Vélez* Send More Cops (6:57)

Something about The Foreign Exchange's "House of Cards" struck me as a bit odd and I figured out what it was. It's in 7/8 time.

Listening to Heavy's Jazz Money$$ right now. It's more toward the J*Davey/Janelle Monae precocious space-girl end of this, although they try to hamfist it with the lyrics in the way Monae would. Lots of tweaked synths and showy/skippy drum programming and the occaional talkbox. My favorite tracks as on one listen are "Countdown" and "Mylittlesong". Live clip of the former:

good call on the 7/8 time!

probably why i gravitate towards it so much when listening to that album

Yeah, it's been my new favorite this week. I've pretty much gone "If She Breaks Your Heart" -> "Daykeeper" -> "House of Cards"

offtopic, but I obsess over documenting hit songs that are in 12/8

i couldn't figure out why and how i got on this, then i realized it stems from my love affair with sly & the family stone's hot fun in the summer time. i have never gotten over that song being in regular rotation.

12 gives it so much room to stretch out the strings and such, while the piano is banging away in 8th notes. this quickly made me realize that the impressions' "it's alright" was built on the same idea, which probably all stemmed from fats domino's cover of blueberry hill.

despite 12/8 hits (billy swan's i can help, genesis' misunderstanding, toto's hold the line, whitney's i'm your baby tonight, etc), odd time signatures beyond 3/4, 6/8, and 12/8 freaked me out when i was little thanks to hearing dave brubeck's take five (5/8) in a local car add when i was maybe 11. got the time out album when i was about 18. became a fan.

i've since gotten into odd time sigs in a serious way (thus, becoming a stereolab fanatic)

I love odd time signatures, maybe even especially 7/8. "Unsquare Dance" is my favorite Brubeck. XD

new PPP mixtape: http://www.divshare.com/download/6302006-1a8

may end up liveblogging this haha

lol i just more or less did this in the PPP thread. go over there and correct all my errors.

oh no wait, haven't heard that. plz do!

was talking about platinum pied pipers/sa-ra/the new downbeat-rnb thing: why don't i like this stuff more?