2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

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god that Atkins post is mostly idiotic

I disagree – he's mostly correct about liberalism.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

so who is lagoon? seems 'worthy' of being pundneb

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

you seem worthy of googling ron paul

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

u r a bigger asshole than the average american voter

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol ultimate morbs zing alert, compare him to an american

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Santorum on African-Americans:

"What President Obama wants to do, his economic plan is to make more people dependent upon government. To grow the government, To make sure we have more food stamps, and more SSI and more Medicaid. Four in 10 children are now on government-provided health care. It just keeps expanding," Santorum said.

He talked about how Iowa is going to get fined if more people don’t sign up for Medicaid and then said, "They're pushing harder and harder to get more and more of you dependent upon them so they can get your vote. That's what the bottom line is. So I don't want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/santorum-singles-out-black-people-as-dependent-on-government-20120102

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah we talked about that a little an hour and a half ago (where "talked" should be interpreted as "shook our heads and had a rueful, slightly incredulous chuckle")

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

uh i don't think i even understand how the caucuses work on the gop side

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/how-to-caucus/

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

go to a room, eat cookies, yell abt stuff

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

black people should under no circumstances be given anybody's money, is what i'm taking away here

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess it is more like a straight vote. no weird group cutoff jawboning stuff, like the democrats do. haha.

xp

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

"they are giving you healthcare in order to buy your votes! get off the plantation!!!"

"you know rick that's actually a pretty good deal"

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

this graphic is somehow hilarious

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

when will these fucking government types stop saying dumb shit like "grow the government" like it's a hydrangea

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

why do the republicans not have a flag in their room do they hate america

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

re: that Atkins piece, his characterization of liberalism is pretty accurate, which is why i said it was only 'mostly' idiotic, but he evades greenwald and stoller's main points

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

"they are giving you healthcare in order to buy your votes! get off the plantation!!!"

sounds slightly better than the GOP deal where they take your vote and give you nothing

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

srsly if people actually got stuff for their votes the country would be a better place

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol otm

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Youtube comments on that Santorum clip are mindboggling:

He didn't say the word "black," he stumbled over the wordd "people's lives." Listen very closely with your ears, not your imagination. If anything, it sounds like "balite" or "palite." Very definitely not "black."

So glad he wants to make polite peoples' lives better.

Dan Peterson, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

If anything, it sounds like "balite" or "palite."

haha wut

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

polite guys finish last again

k3vin k., Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

re: that atkin's piece -- characterizing liberalism as being about "intervention" is so broad as to be useless.

When Abraham Lincoln and the North decided not to allow the nation of the Confederacy--and make no mistake, it was a separate nation with separate laws and an entirely separate culture--to secede from the Union, in large part because the North had an interest in ending slavery in the South and in striking down a competing agrarian economic system, that too was intervention by a superior force against a lesser force attempting to exploit the weak and powerless. To this day, many Southerners feel that their land is being occupied by an illegitimate and invading power, and theirs a Lost Cause that will rise again.

i mean there are about a dozen things wrong with this.

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

his whole deal is setting up a dumb duality: some bad state of affairs exists and liberalism in favor of "intervening" to stop it. and then ron paul doesn't like 'intervening' in anything which is why he is bad. this just isn't the right way to think about anything.

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol did the homie really just argue that the north "intervened" in the south

max, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

To this day, many Southerners feel that their land is being occupied by an illegitimate and invading power, and theirs a Lost Cause that will rise again.

The End.

Joel Perkins, Age 10.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

can we go back to how Rick Santorum now magically never said "black people" in that video where is clearly saying "black people"

I love the comments saying he said "a lot" or "BLIGHT" because you know, there's a big problem in America's blight community

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

to this day many people believe many things

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

theirs a Lost Cause that will rise again

... how exactly does this work

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

it just come on

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

in large part because the North had an interest in ending slavery in the South and in striking down a competing agrarian economic system

yes this is er not quite acurate

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

"this ideology is hopeless, one day it will reign supreme"

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listen very closely with your ears, not your imagination

I think I heard the narrator for a Disney attraction use this line.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

did we talk about Santorum's followup:

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I see only one black guy in the original clip: the sound man. There appear to be a few polite people, and a couple who are blighted. So I'm pretty sure he says "polite" or "blight," zeroing in on the people who are in the room listening.

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

'ive seen that quote and i havent seen the context in which it was made' lol man you realize youre talking abt something you said

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

This man is a traet.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean you were THERE

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's weird, he does stumble over the word, as if he knows it's a stupid thing to say even as he's saying it

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's the normalness trying to contain the hosebeast within

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Santorum and his campaign manager confer privately moments later:

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

His kids are all growed up now or something:

From this, which includes this:

“Our prayers are paying off,” said 13-year-old Sarah Maria Santorum, whose father soon emerged from the throng, stood on a chair and addressed the crowd. …

“Our prayers are paying off.”

Understand that I wasn’t “interviewing” Sarah Santorum. We were just talking, and I made some remark about how huge the crowd was, and then she just said that sentence clear out of the blue. It made such an impression that I immediately jotted it down on a scrap of paper.

Advanced Reporting Seminar, for you newbies: You get the best quotes when you just talk to people, instead of interrogating them in a confrontational manner. Be informal and friendly, put people at ease and listen to what they say. You’ll learn a lot more that way, whether you get a quote or not, and people will say real honest stuff rather than reciting talking points.

But my memory is shaky and I’m bad with names, so when I sat down to write my column – in the deli department of the Hy-Vee grocery story, which has free WiFi – I wanted to make sure I had Sarah’s name and age right. And when I Googled her name, one of the results was that picture at the top of this post.

Yeah, it’s her: The Santorum kid who gave me that quote was the same girl who cried so helplessly on national TV that night in 2006 during her dad’s concession speech. I’d forgotten all about that, until I saw the picture. Then I remembered how the video clip had been played over and over on the news, and also on late-night comedy shows while people mocked the way Sarah and her family cried. And I remembered my wife saying how bad she felt while watching that little girl, hugging her doll, and crying for the whole world to see.

Amazing that I’d talked to her without recognizing her – a poised and cheerful young lady — as that same little girl. But even more amazing, I think she’s exactly right when she says, “our prayers are paying off.”

As I write this, the folks on “Fox and Friends” are marveling at how Santorum went from single digits in the polls to being a serious contender in the space of just a few days. Say what you will, I call it a miracle.

Aw, bless. The hangover'll be amusing.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

why is she not holding a doll w/matching red eagle santorum shirt, i am confuse

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

why is this child, the product of an immaculate conception, wearing mini shorts?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chance of Ron (or Rick), generally Mitt.

http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/iowa-weather-forecast-for-iowa-caucus-voting/

clemenza, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

prays for sleet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Morbs, I'm sorry to say that, although the consequences of two near-identical corporatists "debating" for 10 months might be to completely delegitimize the Republicrat oligarchy, the more likely outcome is to just make most people so discouraged and unhappy that they give up and tune out politics entirely.

Aimless, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes! and so it begins!

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

do you think it is likely that this will be a low-turnout election?

goole, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

ELECT YOURSELF

(icey, I'm sorry I let you have it w/ both barrels, but enough w/ the username masquerades)

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink


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