Raspberry Pi might be enough to make me learn.
― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Monday, 2 January 2012 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
vim is nothing to do with linux
― caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
technically you're right
― V79, Monday, 2 January 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes, in the technical sense that it wasn't written on/for linux, the editor on which it's based wasn't written on linux, it's been ported to like 30 OSs so it's basically platform agnostic, and it's the default $EDITOR on the most popular unix os in the world (clue: not linux)
― caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
<3 u caek
― mh, Monday, 2 January 2012 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
<3
― caek, Monday, 2 January 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
argh, I just like the damn thing! stop fucking nitpicking
― V79, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm a disgusting savage that uses Emacs.
Is this thing getting traction/publicity? I don't really follow tech news, but the project is closely associated with where I work so the I'm seeing Raspberry Pi mentions everywhere at the moment but I don't know what conclusions to draw from that.
― questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
the
Looks pretty cheap for what it is, but what are people looking at doing with them? Seems a lot like some of those hard drive-based media center things that just play video, like the ones WD sell, but without built-in storage.
― mh, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe this should be the year I learn to do more than 3 things in vi/vim before running away to nano or a clicky windows editor like the big menu-loving girl's blouse that I am
(this will not be an editor holy war, as I am fully aware that nano isn't very good, but at least it tells you how to use it and you can't get it stuck in some lisp state machine mode or accidentally delete half your document just because you thought you'd try a half-remembered arcane key combo without looking it up)
― Schleimpilz im Labyrinth (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 10:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've been very happy with my Ubuntu experience so far. I really love how running processor-intensive applications doesn't kill my system, if I need to do something else at the same time the CPU cycles are just taken away from and given to me.
I'm running Win7 in VMWare anyway, though in the long-term I'd like to migrate entirely to Linux. But I'm still committed to my Windows music management software.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is now running on linux. I'm glad they have
service
svcadm
no way would i run it on my desktop, tho
― stet, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
If only I coul dget my sodding netlink usb wireless receiver to work in Ubuntu 10 - I could dream
― did you c/p that randomly or what (Latham Green), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i spent a second going "wtf is dget"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's like wget but for the ddd
― mh, Thursday, 5 January 2012 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Its just my typical typing fail
― The Cheerfull Turtle (Latham Green), Monday, 9 January 2012 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/939
LOVE this
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 05:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok real time command line gave me nerdbonerz
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 06:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
i used to use gnome-do a lot and have been jonesing for something like it for windows for years--nothing nearly as robust outside linux. this looks like a sleeker version of that, so i'm p much automatically in love.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 06:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is that the new HUD? Also love it. But is there a way to show all an apps menus?
― stet, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 07:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
command line 2.0 interaction is not exactly going to set the mass market on fire
― caek, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeh, this tempts me out of using Windows how?
(saying that, I might try re-installing ubuntu. Last time I tried it wouldn't play nice with my monitors, but we'll see)
― get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think Ubuntu is about tempting Windows users anymore. Shuttleworth has bigger pans.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
srsly. they should forget about the mass market, and work on making an environment for nerds that isn't still founded on the idea that you're essentially interacting with a dot-matrix printer.
― stet, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
is not command line, it's just letting you type app names / menu items rather than clicking icons. nobody's going to be piping any grep output to sort using this.
and all this hands to mouse to keyboard and back to mouse would drive me batshit.
gentoo here i come...
― koogs, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
obviously things like this are great for some computer users (prob less than 0.1% these days), incl me.
but if i'm typing nouns and verbs to interact with a computer then to say it's not qualitatively similar to the command line is delusional. and for commercial entities like ubuntu to not make the next logical leap re: how this is going to go over in the market... smdh.
― caek, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
looks cool though
If they do it right, that shouldn't happen. You can almost drive firefox entirely from the keyboard already (especially with LoL installed); this would make that complete. GUI shouldn't preclude good keyboard-driving.
― stet, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't see this setting the world on fire but I still love the idea. Navigating application menus would be exactly 200 times easier if you could just type what you want to do.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm
― caek, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i hope it's clever enough for that and it's just word-matching. Mac OS X already has this with Cmd-? (which is v. useful)
― stet, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
*not just
> You can almost drive firefox entirely from the keyboard already
but the example in the video was inkscape...
― koogs, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't know inkscape in particular, but if you're using Photoshop without one hand on the keyboard you're doing it wrong. Menus like this would be a big time saver there.
― stet, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
> if you're using Photoshop without one hand on the keyboard you're doing it wrong
but that's just keyboard shortcuts, this is typing words, which is different. and if you're typing with only one hand you're doing it wrong (or at least inefficiently)
it's more the forcing their millions of users to change how they do things, proclaiming that this is an improvement that we must* all use (see also unity), making everybody's current working practices redundant, throwing away accumulated knowledge of how to do stuff. that's what annoys me and why i'm staying on the last LTS for as long as i can. if they were starting from scratch, then yes, let them do what they wants. people will use it if they like it. but don't dictate.
* ok, there may be a choice with this, but there was no choice with the unity / gnome3 switch. or kde4 for that matter.
― koogs, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
(arguing over guis is the new vi vs emacs)
― koogs, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 12:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, it does seem like they're forcing these changes on users in ways that not even Apple does.
― stet, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't suppose anyone here is an NFS expert by any chance?
― the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 13:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
i love how completely stoned the last few big ubuntu ideas have been
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
We think of it as “beyond interface”, it’s the “intenterface”.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
not very keen. it's much more effort to think of the right word for what I want to do, than just to read it off a list. that's unless it can understand thingy and wotsit in context.
― thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's another good point. that said, i was trying to get open office to not number the heading line on a spreadsheet yesterday and none of the menu items sounded like they'd do it. ended up adding another column and putting my own number in it.
post just now on slashdot about cinnamon, which looks to be mint making gnome3 work like gnome2 (actually, i'm not entirely sure what it is because the project's front page is all taken from the wikipedia page for the spice http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=1 )
― koogs, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
We think of it as “beyond interface”, it’s the “intenterface”.― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, January 25, 2012 3:08 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
"its like, what if you could just tell the computer what you're thinking......and it knows man"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mac users are probably the easiest to inflict change upon, and *nix users are probably the whiniest. Ubuntu users would be the most open of the *nix user spectrum, though that's not saying much. Intenterface is the worst name I have ever heard btw (and iOS autocorrects it to 'intent efface').
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
that is exactly backwards dude
― caek, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mac users have so much faith in the church that in most cases they hump every change like a dog, whereas *nix users (correctly imo) want every function in history to be available to them forever
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
if by *nix you mean linux then i cannot think of a group of users who care or think less about user interface. and i don't mean that in a "lol linux is ugly" way. i mean it seriously. i mean "flexibility"/"power" is, by a very long way, the most important thing to them. changes to the gui have pretty much no impact on what they mean by flexibility and power.
― caek, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
damn good point
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink