Occupy Wall Street 3: Now What?

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Yesterday during all the N17, Jim Wallis reached out to a non-trad audience by posting this thru Sojourners:

http://sojo.net/blogs/2011/11/17/church-sanctuary-occupy-movement

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It’s also a way to connect the generations in the context of a community for people of all ages. Because all social movements inevitably generate tension and even outright conflict, they need safe space, places to rest and rejuvenate. They need sanctuary.

Offering that sanctuary to the Occupiers — at our tables, on our property, in our parish halls and church basements, and in our sanctuaries for the quiet prayer and reflection that every movement needs to sustain itself — could be the beginning of a powerful relationship between the faith community and the leaders of an emerging generation that is so clearly and passionately committed to creating a better world.

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 18 November 2011 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

re: Occupy Oakland
Tim Simons, 28, an organizer with the group, said Occupy activists had picked the site because groups representing businesses in the area - including the Chamber of Commerce and the Lake Merritt-Uptown District Association - were "our enemies."

Simons said the chamber's motives were influenced by banks and large corporations, noting that board members are employed by Visa, Wells Fargo and AT&T.

The business groups pushed for Occupy to be evicted from its first camp at 14th Street and Broadway, Simons said. "They're out here trying to make a buck in this neighborhood through gentrification," he said. "They need to know we're here, too."

this is fucking stupid.

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

no this is fucking stupid

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/nov/18/occupy-oakland-veteran-beaten-police-video

am0n, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not a zero sum game. both sides are stupid.

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

chu-chung

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

no u r stupid!

am0n, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tim Simons, 28, an organizer with the group, said Occupy activists had picked the site because groups representing businesses in the area - including the Chamber of Commerce and the Lake Merritt-Uptown District Association - were "our enemies."

Haha what, and you think they picked wall st. because it was the heart of a vibrant urban community or something!?

s.clover, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://poemhunter.com/poem/advertisement-for-the-waldorf-astoria/

s.clover, Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol that was a good read

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 19 November 2011 01:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey you guys can have your laptops back

am0n, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

jesus

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

good connect with L. hughes

do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chris S, Saturday, 19 November 2011 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's an amazing photo

iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2011 05:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember her from the old Corner thread. What was her name...?

Ha, literally two nights ago I referred to K-Lo as the Jean Teasdale of the right.

Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Saturday, 19 November 2011 06:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Besides owning a finance company called LocateStock in lower Manhattan, John Tabacco is a Fox News contributor, a failed talk radio host, an unsuccessful city council candidate from Staten Island, and a onetime participant in the VH1 show “My Coolest Years.”

lol

crüt, Saturday, 19 November 2011 06:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

you know in the movies where the old soldier puts on his uniform before getting blown away? Yeah, that pic xp

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 19 November 2011 07:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

at UC Davis:

UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said it would not be safe or sustainable for demonstrators to camp in the quad.

"It's not safe for multiple reasons," Spicuzza said

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45364967/ns/us_news-life/

Chris S, Saturday, 19 November 2011 08:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, the safety of those protesters is clearly the officers' main concern...

Chris S, Saturday, 19 November 2011 08:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

was not expecting the ending of that video to be so inspiring

watched the last half of it three times

Milton Parker, Saturday, 19 November 2011 09:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

re: Occupy Oakland
Tim Simons, 28, an organizer with the group, said Occupy activists had picked the site because groups representing businesses in the area - including the Chamber of Commerce and the Lake Merritt-Uptown District Association - were "our enemies."

I really wish they'd camp in the park with that horrible Remember Them public sculpture that was basically corporate money doing an end run around duly elected and appointed government bodies. It does sound like their new site is closer to that, at least.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 November 2011 10:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats.

! :(

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've been lurking on this thread for a while and that video has depressed and angered me. I'm in the UK and don't have a lot of money at the moment, but I'm wondering. Is there a site you can send money to that can help with the legal costs of the protesters? No country should be doing that to their citizens. Hope you all come out of this for the better. Apologies for the rambling.

Mr.Prologue, Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

chris hedges pulls out all the stops:

The rogues’ gallery of Wall Street crooks, such as Lloyd Blankfein at Goldman Sachs, Howard Milstein at New York Private Bank & Trust, the media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, the Koch brothers and Jamie Dimon at JPMorgan Chase & Co., no doubt think it’s over. They think it is back to the business of harvesting what is left of America to swell their personal and corporate fortunes. But they no longer have any concept of what is happening around them. They are as mystified and clueless about these uprisings as the courtiers at Versailles or in the Forbidden City who never understood until the very end that their world was collapsing.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

at UC Davis:

http://i.imgur.com/EyAAR.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/v/BjnR7xET7Uo&fs=1&hl=en

UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said it would not be safe or sustainable for demonstrators to camp in the quad.

"It's not safe for multiple reasons," Spicuzza said

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45364967/ns/us_news-life/

― Chris S, Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:42 AM (8 hours ago)

i know this is 'legal' in the sense that, like, police can do anything, but how can this happen in broad daylight? i just don't get it

mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sure if that's legal in any sense!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chris Hedges has been on this tip for years now; I wonder how invigorated he is that shit is actually happening.

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw somewhere that Cali courts have said that pepper-spraying people who aren't being actively violent or physically confrontation is excessive use of force - which puts the pigs squarely in the wrong.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

OWS bears many of the hallmarks of a well-funded effort and media reports have speculated about associations with George Soros and others. It will be vital to understand who is funding it and what their backgrounds and motives are. If we can show they have the same cynical motivation as a political opponent it will undermine their credibility in a profound way.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw occupy portland has surprise-occupied another park: http://www.portlandoccupier.org/2011/11/19/n19/

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Again, when you swim in nothing but the fecal stew of American rightwing politics, you can't really help but assuming & projecting that all politics is as authoritarian and hierarchical as your own. Some insanely rich sugar daddy always must be behind it all, right?

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Caribou Barbie talkin' all 99ish!

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/18/palin_embraces_ows/singleton/

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, November 18, 2011 5:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Good example of how the conversation has changed. If the grossest opportunists who will tilt whichever way the wind blows get on board ... well, that's probably the type of douchebags you need on your side to get anything done.

Another one I saw but can't dig up right now was someone asked Boehner about OWS being bad for Republicans and instead of saying "well Obama loves those dirty hippies and the true American people will make him pay" his response was something like "Isn't Obama the largest recipient of Wall Street campaign cash?" Which is true but it's weird to hear a Republican tarring a Democrat as being "too in bed with Wall Street."

dmr, Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

uc davis calls for chancellor's resignation after the pepper spray incident

http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-letter-to-chancellor-linda-p-b-katehi/

mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

not uc davis at large, but one very courageous assistant professor who doesn't have tenure

geeta, Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

whoops yeah "professor" was excised from that post somehow, i do read links before i post them i swear

mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

and yeah that dude is pretty ballsy

mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

dude's a champ. and it's a nice uncompromising letter. chancellor and police chief's voicemails both full as of 9 this morning, unsurprisingly.

wmlynch, Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

for what it's worth cops have been pulling this shit with pepper spray since the mid-90's, after court cases involving abortion clinic protests established precedence for responding to nonviolent demonstrators w/"non-lethal" force. during the Redwood Summer in 97 (I think?) they were swabbing it into people's eyes with q-tips, and spraying my friends in the balls. so sadly this is nothing new.

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, in Montreal...

Mayor Gérald Tremblay ... says campers in Victoria Square can keep protesting corporate greed (so long as they don’t build wooden structures.) As he put it on Monday: “We won’t let other cities’ decisions distract us. ... Montreal will show that it’s capable of living in harmony.” (link)

Occupy Montreal protesters spent the better part of Friday dismantling wooden structures and pulling down empty tents in Victoria Square as per the city’s request. The 18 wooden structures that had been erected as more permanent shelter against the coming cold were deemed unsafe by the fire department, and 15 tents that are no longer occupied were also removed. “We’re eager to do this because tonight (Friday) we’re getting our new arctic military tents,” said Paul Bode from the site. (link)

sean gramophone, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

goddamn i love that city.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've been lurking on this thread for a while and that video has depressed and angered me. I'm in the UK and don't have a lot of money at the moment, but I'm wondering. Is there a site you can send money to that can help with the legal costs of the protesters? No country should be doing that to their citizens. Hope you all come out of this for the better. Apologies for the rambling.

would donate here: http://www.nlg.org/

no idea how active they've been outside of ny, but for zuccotti they've been doing all the legal stuff

iatee, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes Men call drum circle at Bloomberg's townhouse tom'w at 2:

http://yeslab.org/drumcircle

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

ugh.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

^

sean gramophone, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

what's that supposed to accomplish exactly

Chris S, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

if it pisses off the old closet queen, I'm for it

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink


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