how are the other 89 minutes
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's by no means a disgrace, I laughed out loud a few times. Didn't care for Segel's new Muppet. Needed more Piggy and Amy Adams. Also a total late boomer/GenX nostalgia trip.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
have you guys seen this?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
This was good! Much funnier than the trailers had me expecting.
Can't believe you wanted MORE Piggy. She's always been the dullest Muppet. But this film skimped severely on Gonzo. :( He's been downgraded to a third-tier character, more or less in line with the Swedish Chef! (I love the Swedish chef.)
Biggest disappointment with the movie is that it lacks the "classic" movie-making-ness of Muppets Take Manhattan or whatever. Reminded me more of a good Pixar movie than old Woody Allen or something.
― sean gramophone, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
She's always been the dullest Muppet
lol whut - she's like Lucy in Peanuts, it doesn't work without her.
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
also Muppets Take Manhattan is the worst of the original trio!
The new Piggy guy doesn't go into that gruff register that Frank Oz used to do (or the script doesn't let him).
Alas the dullest Muppet in this one is the one with the most screen time.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
huh that seems pretty odd. does she still say "Hi-ya" and karate chop people, cuz that's what my daughter wants to see
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Piggy's martial arts chops are undiminished.
BTW it's preceded by a Toy Story short that has a 12-step group spoof, and the feature has one too. Can we leave the really "knowing" dark shit out of kids' movies, guys?
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Piggy's absolutely necessary - but i certainly didn't need more of her.
― sean gramophone, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
If Gonzo's demoted it's a shame but consistent with his constant frustration.. In the TV series he was always trying to be taken seriously "as an artist" and then just ignored by Kermit, who was trying to run a successful variety show
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
A number of the cameo guests listed way up in that Wiki article didn't make the cut. I wish Jack Black hadn't.My other insights which you can read Monday.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
the long strong muscular (=non-muppet) legs in that poster totally give me the creeps
― mark s, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
i get sad when the new guys can't quite nail the old voices - the one out of statler and waldorf without the mustache in the habanera clip just doesn't sound right... and kermit hasn't sounded right since henson died.
i still really wanna see this film though.
― Where Is Reason? (stevie), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
I believe Gonzo is the only (?) originally-voiced Muppet in this.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
if i didn't think they were close to begin with does that mean they're still pretty far away
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
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― mark s, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Can't believe you wanted MORE Piggy. She's always been the dullest Muppet.
This is so wrong that I don't even know where to begin.
― bouquet beatdown (Nicole), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Given that most of the Muppet stuff is meta-showbiz, she's a classic showbiz character.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
― bouquet beatdown (Nicole), Friday, November 18, 2011 12:52 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah, i was gonna say something about that but i also didnt know where to start. feel like the doctor from bridge on river kwai bein all like madness... madness....
― The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, Jack Black is in it? I try to avoid everything he gets involved with. My love for the muppets overpowers my visceral dislike for JB though, so I'm still looking forward to this.
― sleep daphnia (dowd), Friday, 18 November 2011 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
There are compensatory factors if you like to see Jack Black suffer.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Frank Oz hasn't really muppeteered since the 90s
we don't need Miss Piggy anymore, we have Jenna Maroney
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
morbius, does this have much of a plot or is it like beads-on-a-string? (actually i sort of feel like i'd prefer the latter.)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
hmm I think I will enjoy seeing Jack Black suffer, yes
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's a getting-the-band-back-together plot.
tho there are some reprises of The Muppet Movie, sometimes the 1979 movie it reminded me of was Satr Trek: TMP.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
someone who's seen it already please tell me this doesn't suck. better yet, tell me it's awesome!
if it actually is, of course. if they kill my childhood in this movie i'd rather not see it.
― messiahwannabe, Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
the only assurance I need is that Rowlf The Dog is well-represented here
― Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 19 November 2011 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
My FCF loved it, sez it will appeal to anyone over 30+ with fond memories of the Muppets.
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Saturday, 19 November 2011 06:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Friday, November 18, 2011 5:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
MIND BLOWN
― Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 19 November 2011 07:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is as close to "ringing endorsement" as I can imagine! I love ST: TMP. It's my 2nd or 3rd favorite Trek movie after Khan!
― i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
well, it's funnier, and no one's as stiff as Persis Khambatta.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
persis khambatta rip :(
she was only 49
― mark s, Saturday, 19 November 2011 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes, that was a pity.
NYT feature on Bret McKenzie and his 3 songs (the vid here with Kermit is preferable to the perfs of the song in the film):
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/magazine/bret-mckenzie-muppets.html
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Better than Muppets in Space; got nothing on the original trilogy.
― dor Dumbeddownball (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also, yes, jaymc's FCF OTM in that it want to make kids laugh but, more importantly, make adults get a good nostalgic cry.
Big fan of Miss Poogy over here.
― dor Dumbeddownball (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
"You saw All About Eve, right?"
― dor Dumbeddownball (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's a woman always smoking in front of my building who reminds me quite a bit of Miss Poogy.
Actually this could've eclipsed the first movie with a couple moves:
-no Walter-team up Piggy and Adams
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Could've done entirely without Segal, Adams and Walter entirely.
― dor Dumbeddownball (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Entirely, in case that wasn't clear.
Adams was criminally underused. Would've preferred the reunion to be instigated by Mark Wahlberg and Adams as their Fighter characters.
I will be interested in hearing kids' reactions, as it's not aimed much at em as you say.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
and yes, it'a 100% nostalgia fest and my eyes were leaking in 5 mins.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^^^ this is all I need to know. I have to see this.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 November 2011 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
saw this last night in a discount theater jammed to the rafters with single-digits and their stoic herders. movie was fun, but took waaaaay too long to get going. tons of mopey, draggy musical numbers and laugh-free "character development" stretches. as a result, the kids were restless as all hell. serious bag-crinkling set in about ten minutes after the film started and never stopped. surprised that the parents didn't laugh more, though, cuz i found a lot of it pretty damn funny: muppet man, the telethon numbers, etc.
there was a low stage in front of the theater screen on which, during the credits when the lights came up, a bunch of kids danced and played. best thing about the movie. meanwhile, this one little girl, seated behind us with her parents, said "i want to make my own muppet!" her parents just grunted, so she repeated the idea, this time met with silence. then she said that it would be fun to play on stage with the other kids. so her parents got up to leave, again without speaking a word. lesson: parents suck.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 16 January 2012 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
this was ok beut somehow didn't feel "big" enough? i mean i capitalized this thread title for a reason.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 16 January 2012 04:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Way, way, way too much unfunny emphasis on (star and writer and executive producer) Jason Segel, his Amy Adams wife and puppet brother. Detracted from the muppetness, forced tedious "relationship arc" bullshit on the movie.
"Well yes, I know it's called 'The Muppets'. All the more reason it should mostly be about MEEEEEEE!"
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 16 January 2012 04:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Kind of too much to ask for from a movie for kids, but it'd have been nice to have the Segel/Adams arc be emphasized a little less and have more Chris Cooper/Kermit action. I kind of feel like the framing device took over a little too much of the movie.
I did enjoy all the references to the Muppet Show and not just the movies.
― mh, Monday, 16 January 2012 14:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
"i want to make my own muppet!" her parents just grunted, so she repeated the idea, this time met with silence. then she said that it would be fun to play on stage with the other kids. so her parents got up to leave, again without speaking a word. lesson: parents suck.
don't judge these people, you have no idea what they endured that day
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 January 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink