Occupy Wall Street 3: Now What?

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in any case and for whatever reason, phone reception was apparently lost and the feeds went down

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 05:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Reports of NYPD deleting phone photo data and confiscating memory cards from arrested protestors

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 18 November 2011 05:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Reports of NYPD deleting phone photo data and confiscating memory cards from arrested protestors

― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

time for another donation to the ACLU. get those lawsuits started, no?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 18 November 2011 06:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

ive heard reports of cellphone network shutdowns citywide, which if true is kinda scary

― am0n, Friday, November 18, 2011 12:44 AM

err not citywide, but u know what i mean

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

ugh in portland today a woman was raped shortly before the riot police converged on occupyportland tried to march over the steel bridge. they didn't respond to the rape victim for three hours and the police chief/portland mayoral candidate blamed the occupy movement for making the police "too tired" to do their job. Go fuck yourself with that shit.

Clay, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

URL for that is http://t.co/vRpLMj8U btw

Clay, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

also I think maybe being chief of police and running for mayor at the same time is ultra problematic for all kinds of reasons but that probably belongs on some other thread.

Clay, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just watched law and order for five hours in jail

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 10:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

and yeah guy who put the zipties on me gave me the same line about the militarized presence at the protest making it impossible to do police work elsewhere and i was like that sounds serious maybe you should take it up w/ your boss

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 10:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ outside chase today. girl was a trouper.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 10:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

geez dfh.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

dlh, check your fb messages

The Reverend, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

done!

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

(obv you already know that though)

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

also kingfish, checking the other thread i'm sorry i didn't coordinate anything! we need to learn what one another look like at some point because i think chances are good we've seen each other.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

You only spent five hours?!? I spent almost twelve, including three avoiding the pool of urine by the clogged toilet that drew ever closer.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

it wasn't actually a very short sentence, it was a very long book-and-release.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

exactly ten minutes longer in fact than would have enabled me to catch my train. which i am maybe 80% on their doing on purpose.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

how many arrested and did you go to a holding area or the hoosegow?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

15 i think were arrested in my group, 22 or so more in an earlier action at wells fargo and i'm sure others throughout the day. they took us to a parking garage somewhere i assumed was a cia black site and let most of us go with citations, but i'm an idiot and had looked at my wallet that morning and thought "lol i don't have any cash, i don't even have any money in my bank account, what kind of grandiose delusion is it to carry around a wallet" and left it behind, so i didn't have my ID, so i went to jail, cuz apparently you go to jail if you don't have your ID. a few other guys did too -- most because they had priors; one for the same reason as me -- as did the girl in the pepper-spray photo above, as far as i could tell just for being pepper-sprayed.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

all released around 1 AM.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

except for two guys who went down a hallway and we never saw again. the hallway led both to the cells and to the exit so they could be anywhere.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

we did an earlier thing at bank of america but they locked their doors in time so we just sat outside for a while and sloganed while they yelled "GET A JOB" through the glass. some wag in a suit inside put up a sign saying PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR so i put one up facing in saying PLEASE USE OTHER SOURCE OF GAMBLING FUNDS and he mouthed "that's pretty good" through the glass. they won though because eventually we just left.

oh and somebody commandeered the pompous flagpoles outside of wells fargo and ran up 1) an inverted american flag (totally feel this in the distress-signal sense but probably not the best idea from a PR standpoint oh well) and 2) an OCCUPY banner, which was pretty cool. made the news. the inverted american flag, i mean. of course.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

by pretty cool i actually mean that was totally rad and i saluted it and everything.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

1) an inverted american flag (totally feel this in the distress-signal sense but probably not the best idea from a PR standpoint oh well)

lol agreed

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

some wag in a suit inside put up a sign saying PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR so i put one up facing in saying PLEASE USE OTHER SOURCE OF GAMBLING FUNDS and he mouthed "that's pretty good" through the glass

loooool

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp it was satisfying on a complicated personal level for me, though, because of an Embarrassing Incident i had in fifth-grade "flag duty", to see a crowd of people cheering the upside-down flag.

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:18 (1 year ago) Permalink


upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

isn't that chick one of the X-Men

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

whatever, girl's on some boudica shit

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

also digging whatever that garment is in bottom left

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

her right breast?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

that was your birthday present

occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

my 45-year-old brother

max, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

as did the girl in the pepper-spray photo above, as far as i could tell just for being pepper-sprayed.

― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, November 18, 2011 7:33 AM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/17/1037332/-OWS-Participants-Your-Rights-Under-Federal-Law-if-You-are-Pepper-Sprayed-Why-You-Should-Sue-

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR so i put one up facing in saying PLEASE USE OTHER SOURCE OF GAMBLING FUNDS and he mouthed "that's pretty good" through the glass.

this is my favorite ows related story so far

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

see 4 posts up

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

I walked around, and put up signs in there offering money to rent out an apartment for a few hours.

I spoke with her on the phone, and a few days later went over and met her. I told her what I wanted to do, and she was enthused. The more I described, the more excited she got.

She wouldn’t take my money. That was the day of the eviction of Zuccotti, the same day. And she’d been listening to the news all day, she saw everything that had happened.

“I can’t charge you money, this is for the people,” she said.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

also let her know that the people need a date this weekend

do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

did you just call her a whore

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty sure i did not

do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/pm_32330/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=gf9Ghoqi

Occupy Portland: Image of Portland police pepper spraying protester goes viral

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

there are two dates this weekend: the 19th and the 20th. the people can pick either, or both.

s.clover, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

wish there had been pepperoni spray for the free pizza in Foley Sq last night

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Chris S, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have been fucking loving the news of the Detroit fast food strike

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/10/detroit-experiences-what-may-be-largest-fast-food-strike-yet/

a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:09 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

hell yeah

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 17:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

That is so amazing/inspiring.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

just got word that dc cops have visited a half dozen of my friend's houses today.

fuck.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

arrests or just "visits"?

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:20 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

unclear. rumors of a couple of arrests, but the simmering panic + security culture are such that people are being really vague about it over any means of communication that can get subpoenaed

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 19:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

2 arrests confirmed.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

they raided a house I'm at all the time. Fuck. Goddammit.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

oh geez :/

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

wow ok, feeling some feelings here

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 20:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

that sucks, man. you got a lawyer you can call in a worst case scenario?

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 10 May 2013 21:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, we're in good with nlg people & i've got the number in memory.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 10 May 2013 23:32 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

one of three back in the world already, still mum.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 11 May 2013 00:04 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

ugh hoos stay free

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 02:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Friend who turned himself in after finding out his house was raided while he was working is now being held for a week. All I'm hearing is "it isn't a felony," but they're still holding him for a week.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Held for a week on a misdemeanor charge! Fuck that noise.

Aimless, Saturday, 11 May 2013 18:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:01 (1 week ago) Permalink

friend of mine quipped 'and thus the pacific northwest comes to the east coast'

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:04 (1 week ago) Permalink

lil grandiose given we think he's out soon, but i gotta ride for my man

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 13 May 2013 02:06 (1 week ago) Permalink

he's out today--after holding him for the week the gov lawyers suddenly realized "gosh, we haven't even filed the paperwork on this yet: you know what? nevermind."

arrested on a bogus charge. held for a week. charge dropped.

and he was one of a few other surprise arrests too. they're trying to put down a chilling effect pretty hard.

but in any case--he's out and we're relieved.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 18 May 2013 06:38 (1 week ago) Permalink

damn, while i wasn't looking tidal went and got all upscale

http://tidalmag.org/about/

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 18 May 2013 07:30 (1 week ago) Permalink

that said the articles in it feel intensely actively dull and recycled and going-through-the-motions except the bond/ratings agency article which just makes no sense and the choice of lorde poem which is almost actively offensive in this context, but at least it has an obvious agenda. outside of that this notion of 'theory' is like high-minded platitudes.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Saturday, 18 May 2013 18:57 (1 week ago) Permalink

not exactly a rupture, no.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 18 May 2013 19:52 (1 week ago) Permalink

I'm interested that you find the Audre Lorde so poorly placed. Why?

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 18 May 2013 20:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

"Workers rise and win
and have not lost their chains
but swing them
side by side with the billyclubs in blue
securing Wall Street
against the striking students"

4real? is this in any way relevant to anything that's happend in the past two years (or twenty even)? (leave aside if it even made sense when the poem was written -- still in the long wake of france '68). insofar as there was any agreed upon message or set of grievances from occupy, isn't this directly contrary to that?

a big span of the time that ppl were able to stay in zucotti was bought by the intervention of the labor movement, and in return they get this shit printed about them?

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Sunday, 19 May 2013 00:47 (6 days ago) Permalink

I just wrote a long thing and zing ate it f me

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 19 May 2013 01:59 (6 days ago) Permalink

the lazy sunday night answer to your first point of the poem's relevance at the time is read this

hard hat riot in '70 was a real and contemporaneous thing

as to why tidal printed it here, i'm not sure, though it could be read as a reminder that apparent natural allies can be mobilized against 'us'.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 19 May 2013 23:11 (6 days ago) Permalink

maybe it should run some piece on how some feminists opposed the fifteenth amendment next. good job building alliances guize.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:07 (5 days ago) Permalink

i've wondered often what your ~positive~ interest in this stuff is, s. clover, only because many of the posts i've seen of your itt seem to trend negative on these projects 'as implemented' though not 'as a whole.' this makes me uncertain but curious where you're coming from politically.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:16 (5 days ago) Permalink

penny lewis has a revisionist riposte to that hard-hat history just published http://www.amazon.com/Hardhats-Hippies-Hawks-Vietnam-Movement/dp/0801478561/ref=la_B00CF6GDZS_1_1

she writes about it in the chronicle of higher ed, but it's subscription-only online. looks quite interesting http://chronicle.texterity.com/chronicle/20130517b?pg=10#pg10

rather ugged man (zvookster), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:42 (5 days ago) Permalink

i've wondered often what your ~positive~ interest in this stuff is, s. clover, only because many of the posts i've seen of your itt seem to trend negative on these projects 'as implemented' though not 'as a whole.' this makes me uncertain but curious where you're coming from politically.

― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:16 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:43 (5 days ago) Permalink

well yeah, and 'stayin alive' does a lot to muddy the waters by talking about points where labor dovetailed with the anitwar movement, and that a lot of rank and file--particularly vietnam vets--were completely anti-war. would def like to read that though, looks great.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:44 (5 days ago) Permalink

yep - as lewis puts it in the preview, vets protested as vets, chicanos as chicanos, soldiers as soldiers

rather ugged man (zvookster), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:50 (5 days ago) Permalink

i am curious (clover)

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 May 2013 01:51 (5 days ago) Permalink

lol clover i wonder if u might enjoy wiiiai's breakdowns of obama (& bush before him) SOTUs & pressers http://whateveritisimagainstit.blogspot.com/2013/05/obama-press-conference-and-so-i-make-no.html

rather ugged man (zvookster), Monday, 20 May 2013 02:00 (5 days ago) Permalink

notes

- foreclosed & threatened homeowners from around the us occupied the steps of the DOJ for the last two days, upon arrest/tazing/eviction they've moved on to occupying holder's old law firm (where lanny breuer now works) and are locking down right now: http://t.co/3vk5uGmZv9

- yesterday a few hundred workers at federal buildings went on a one-day walkout strike. friends of mine organizing for months to make that happen. big win for them, really fuckin proud. today a lot of those strikers are being barred from returning to work. info on how to help: http://bit.ly/11YrfiY

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:24 (3 days ago) Permalink

RT @our_dc: Quick Pita and Flamers manager said workers can come back tomorrow for their 11am shift! #goodjobsnation #unity #u1

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:33 (3 days ago) Permalink

New rules to regulate derivatives, adopted last week by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, are a victory for Wall Street

That's from the New York Times

http://truth-out.org/video/item/16500-banks-win-big-as-regulators-refuse-to-rein-in-700-trillion-derivatives-market

A discussion of it from elsewhere

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:44 (3 days ago) Permalink

http://www.occupyhomesmn.org/hbor_victory?recruiter_id=67

After a year and a half of on-the-ground anti-foreclosure organizing with homeowners publicly standing up and fighting the banks' abuse, the Minnesota legislature passed the Homeowner Bill of Rights almost unanimously--61-1 in the Senate and 123-0 in the House. National analysts are calling this legislation the strongest Homeowner Bill of Rights in the country. This victory shows that the community pressure Occupy Homes MN has helped to build--from grassroots organizing to the hearing rooms at the Capitol--can force legislatures to take steps toward holding Wall Street accountable. This legislation does not solve the housing crisis, but it does enforce basic protections against some of the banks’ worst practices.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 23 May 2013 20:46 (2 days ago) Permalink


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