someone on my facebook said the wikileaks truck was stolen!
(i don't know what that means to anyone...)
― scott seward, Friday, 18 November 2011 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
in any case and for whatever reason, phone reception was apparently lost and the feeds went down
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 05:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Reports of NYPD deleting phone photo data and confiscating memory cards from arrested protestors
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 18 November 2011 05:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
time for another donation to the ACLU. get those lawsuits started, no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 18 November 2011 06:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
ive heard reports of cellphone network shutdowns citywide, which if true is kinda scary
― am0n, Friday, November 18, 2011 12:44 AM
err not citywide, but u know what i mean
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
ugh in portland today a woman was raped shortly before the riot police converged on occupyportland tried to march over the steel bridge. they didn't respond to the rape victim for three hours and the police chief/portland mayoral candidate blamed the occupy movement for making the police "too tired" to do their job. Go fuck yourself with that shit.
― Clay, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
URL for that is http://t.co/vRpLMj8U btw
― Clay, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
also I think maybe being chief of police and running for mayor at the same time is ultra problematic for all kinds of reasons but that probably belongs on some other thread.
― Clay, Friday, 18 November 2011 06:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
i just watched law and order for five hours in jail
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 10:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
and yeah guy who put the zipties on me gave me the same line about the militarized presence at the protest making it impossible to do police work elsewhere and i was like that sounds serious maybe you should take it up w/ your boss
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 10:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^^ outside chase today. girl was a trouper.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 10:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
geez dfh.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
dlh, check your fb messages
― The Reverend, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
done!
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
(obv you already know that though)
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
also kingfish, checking the other thread i'm sorry i didn't coordinate anything! we need to learn what one another look like at some point because i think chances are good we've seen each other.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
You only spent five hours?!? I spent almost twelve, including three avoiding the pool of urine by the clogged toilet that drew ever closer.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
it wasn't actually a very short sentence, it was a very long book-and-release.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
exactly ten minutes longer in fact than would have enabled me to catch my train. which i am maybe 80% on their doing on purpose.
how many arrested and did you go to a holding area or the hoosegow?
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
15 i think were arrested in my group, 22 or so more in an earlier action at wells fargo and i'm sure others throughout the day. they took us to a parking garage somewhere i assumed was a cia black site and let most of us go with citations, but i'm an idiot and had looked at my wallet that morning and thought "lol i don't have any cash, i don't even have any money in my bank account, what kind of grandiose delusion is it to carry around a wallet" and left it behind, so i didn't have my ID, so i went to jail, cuz apparently you go to jail if you don't have your ID. a few other guys did too -- most because they had priors; one for the same reason as me -- as did the girl in the pepper-spray photo above, as far as i could tell just for being pepper-sprayed.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
all released around 1 AM.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
except for two guys who went down a hallway and we never saw again. the hallway led both to the cells and to the exit so they could be anywhere.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
we did an earlier thing at bank of america but they locked their doors in time so we just sat outside for a while and sloganed while they yelled "GET A JOB" through the glass. some wag in a suit inside put up a sign saying PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR so i put one up facing in saying PLEASE USE OTHER SOURCE OF GAMBLING FUNDS and he mouthed "that's pretty good" through the glass. they won though because eventually we just left.
oh and somebody commandeered the pompous flagpoles outside of wells fargo and ran up 1) an inverted american flag (totally feel this in the distress-signal sense but probably not the best idea from a PR standpoint oh well) and 2) an OCCUPY banner, which was pretty cool. made the news. the inverted american flag, i mean. of course.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
by pretty cool i actually mean that was totally rad and i saluted it and everything.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 12:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
1) an inverted american flag (totally feel this in the distress-signal sense but probably not the best idea from a PR standpoint oh well)
lol agreed
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
some wag in a suit inside put up a sign saying PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR so i put one up facing in saying PLEASE USE OTHER SOURCE OF GAMBLING FUNDS and he mouthed "that's pretty good" through the glass
loooool
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp it was satisfying on a complicated personal level for me, though, because of an Embarrassing Incident i had in fifth-grade "flag duty", to see a crowd of people cheering the upside-down flag.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
isn't that chick one of the X-Men
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
whatever, girl's on some boudica shit
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
also digging whatever that garment is in bottom left
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
her right breast?
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was your birthday present
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 November 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
max's brother? http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=36761
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
my 45-year-old brother
― max, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
as did the girl in the pepper-spray photo above, as far as i could tell just for being pepper-sprayed.
― occupy the A train (difficult listening hour), Friday, November 18, 2011 7:33 AM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/17/1037332/-OWS-Participants-Your-Rights-Under-Federal-Law-if-You-are-Pepper-Sprayed-Why-You-Should-Sue-
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
PLEASE USE OTHER DOOR so i put one up facing in saying PLEASE USE OTHER SOURCE OF GAMBLING FUNDS and he mouthed "that's pretty good" through the glass.
this is my favorite ows related story so far
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://boingboing.net/2011/11/17/interview-with-the-occupy-wall.html
― dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
see 4 posts up
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I walked around, and put up signs in there offering money to rent out an apartment for a few hours.
I spoke with her on the phone, and a few days later went over and met her. I told her what I wanted to do, and she was enthused. The more I described, the more excited she got.
She wouldn’t take my money. That was the day of the eviction of Zuccotti, the same day. And she’d been listening to the news all day, she saw everything that had happened.
“I can’t charge you money, this is for the people,” she said.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
also let her know that the people need a date this weekend
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
did you just call her a whore
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
pretty sure i did not
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/pm_32330/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=gf9Ghoqi
Occupy Portland: Image of Portland police pepper spraying protester goes viral
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
there are two dates this weekend: the 19th and the 20th. the people can pick either, or both.
― s.clover, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
wish there had been pepperoni spray for the free pizza in Foley Sq last night
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Chris S, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
― am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
RT @our_dc: Quick Pita and Flamers manager said workers can come back tomorrow for their 11am shift! #goodjobsnation #unity #u1
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:33 (4 weeks ago) Permalink
New rules to regulate derivatives, adopted last week by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, are a victory for Wall Street
That's from the New York Times
http://truth-out.org/video/item/16500-banks-win-big-as-regulators-refuse-to-rein-in-700-trillion-derivatives-market
A discussion of it from elsewhere
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:44 (4 weeks ago) Permalink
http://www.occupyhomesmn.org/hbor_victory?recruiter_id=67
After a year and a half of on-the-ground anti-foreclosure organizing with homeowners publicly standing up and fighting the banks' abuse, the Minnesota legislature passed the Homeowner Bill of Rights almost unanimously--61-1 in the Senate and 123-0 in the House. National analysts are calling this legislation the strongest Homeowner Bill of Rights in the country. This victory shows that the community pressure Occupy Homes MN has helped to build--from grassroots organizing to the hearing rooms at the Capitol--can force legislatures to take steps toward holding Wall Street accountable. This legislation does not solve the housing crisis, but it does enforce basic protections against some of the banks’ worst practices.
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 23 May 2013 20:46 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Chris Hedges: "Camden and Detroit succumbed first. You and I are next."
http://www.nationofchange.org/rise-or-die-1369144349
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 02:00 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
rumors of a thing at zuccotti this weekend
when i thought it was rumors/a joke i responded 'yeah what the hell'
now that i think its serious i'm realllly hoping its not actually happening
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 02:43 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
When I started seeing the reoccupy talk I was sort of jokingly down for it--"eh, what the hell?"--but I'm really struggling to see the point
"We will strike a blow against austerity and capitalism and ~the 1%~ by sitting in this park until we are painfully removed in 12 hours!"
"Then a series of follow up actions about the police response where the message of the original occupation gets lost! Then full communism!"
[homie suggests 'why don't we start shutting shit down? banks, bridges etc']
@hoosteen 1h@p____ but that doesn't just *start* spontaneously, right? Like, that takes real comm orgz'ing, the kinda work we *oughta* be doing
@hoosteen 1h@p_____ instead of spending energy and time and attention on reprising a song we all know the end of already
@hoosteen 53mAgree. Doubt reoccupation will accomplish this RT @OccupyWallSt: @hoosteen What has changed? Nothing. Jail the bankers, reclaim our economy.
I guess what I'm getting at is that if "nothing has changed" since we took public space two years ago, what will change by doing it again?
Wasnt in the meetings, maybe @OccupyWallSt has secret strategy to use reoccupy to ignite something. Happened once. But again, w/same tactic?
Like why are we re-fetishizing Tents in A Park as if that Solves Capitalism? Is it still 2011? Have we learned literally nothing?
Obv all solidarity and love to folks taking action at Z Park tomorrow. I'm just wondering if there are better uses of our collective energy.
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 05:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
sry for tweeting
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 05:47 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Splitter!!
― Gukbe, Saturday, 1 June 2013 06:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
amazing scenes in istanbul http://t.co/LidM7Gfh0S
― gabb neb gone bad (zvookster), Saturday, 1 June 2013 15:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
maxberger Max Berger 51sReason I love New York no. 4221: Zuccotti Park is filled with Turkish people in solidarity with #OccupyGezi
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
also essex antifa stood the fuck up today
EDL tried to march and essex antifa blockaded them for 5 hours
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
friend of mine was in Turkey for work, got out this morning
will stop by Liberty Sq if i have time
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
<3
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
two friends of mine just got back from turkey like last week
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:25 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
lol assad just asked turkish pm to resign over "brutal crackdown on protesters"
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
trollface.jpg
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
an anarchist football fan club has captured a riot control vehicle in turkey
https://twitter.com/DirenGezi/status/340589774467383296/photo/1
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/06/occupy-taksim-police-against-protesters-in-istanbul.html damn, some good writing here
― gabb neb gone bad (zvookster), Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:25 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
yeah thanks, that's great
these are the dudes that stole the riot van lol
They had come up with a new slogan: “Give us 100 gas masks, we’ll take the park.” I asked Ayhan Gÿner, one of Çarsi’s senior members, what he had to say to New Yorker readers. “Çarsi is the last barricade. Çarsi keeps alive the hopes of the people in the resistance of Gezi Park,” he told me. “This resistance has inspired the leaders of Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe”—rival Istanbul soccer clubs—“to come together. Damn American imperialism to hell.” Fifteen minutes later, I got another text: “Pepper gas is the Besiktas fan’s perfume. Nobody can intimidate us”; and, shortly after that, “We are the soldiers not of the imam, but of Mustafa Kemal” (referring to Ataturk, the founder of the secular Turkish Republic).
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
right in the feels
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 June 2013 01:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
http://pastebin.com/1XzsfqeP
I saw people with bloody hands tearing out the sidewalks and trying to build barricade so that the howling and water-blowing siege tanks wouldn’t pass through and run over people…and all this done within minutes collaboratively…A huge barricade was built by people who were coughing and puking as their tears were dropping on the pavement stones they were ripping off the ground…
melodramatic but harrowing
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
so. this is happening.
REOCCUPY TONIGHT! Calling all DC occupiers! Calling all curious souls! There will be a group doing a reoccupy of McPherson Square TONIGHT, starting about 9 PM. Yes, rumors are true! Bring your sleeping bag, but no tents. Bring food and water. Bring your passion and your love of justice! Bring your desire to change the world! We're not sure how this will go but we can't stay indoors anymore while the streets and homes of Turkey fill with tear gas, while the super-rich get richer, while poor people and people of color continue to be thrown needlessly into the criminal injustice system and get foreclosed on, while Monsanto and agribusiness poison our food supply, while indigenous peoples continue to be marginalized and stolen from, while police shoot/taze/kill at will, while the LGBTQ community gets beaten, while our government turns a blind eye, while our politicians let lobbyists buy them off, while some try to turn back the clock on womens rights, while a greedy corporation continues to build the Keystone XL pipeline section by section... while those who are in power destroy our world. We will be idle no more!Come stand up and stand for something! And have one heck of a good time doing it :)
We're not sure how this will go but we can't stay indoors anymore while the streets and homes of Turkey fill with tear gas, while the super-rich get richer, while poor people and people of color continue to be thrown needlessly into the criminal injustice system and get foreclosed on, while Monsanto and agribusiness poison our food supply, while indigenous peoples continue to be marginalized and stolen from, while police shoot/taze/kill at will, while the LGBTQ community gets beaten, while our government turns a blind eye, while our politicians let lobbyists buy them off, while some try to turn back the clock on womens rights, while a greedy corporation continues to build the Keystone XL pipeline section by section... while those who are in power destroy our world. We will be idle no more!
Come stand up and stand for something! And have one heck of a good time doing it :)
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
ahh the 1%
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=82008106392
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 23:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:01 (1 week ago) Permalink
Wednesday, June 5, 2013, outside a clothing store, near the Gare Saint-Lazare, Méric Clément, France, a young trade unionist, 18 years of age and an anti-fascist activist was beaten to death by fascists. Arriving in Brest for his studies at Political Science, he has been subjected to extreme right-wing violence that has grown in recent months. He died of his injuries, in the night, at the Hospital Pitié-Salpêtrière. All our thoughts are with his family and loved ones to whom we express our solidarity.
memorial at the french embassy in dc at 11 tomorrow
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 7 June 2013 04:07 (1 week ago) Permalink
saw this on the WaPo site today :((
― sleeve, Friday, 7 June 2013 04:09 (1 week ago) Permalink
fucking hell, that's so immensely foreign to my experience that it's hard to even believe.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 June 2013 16:33 (1 week ago) Permalink
black vs red will never die tho
:(
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Friday, 7 June 2013 16:39 (1 week ago) Permalink
fucking shit
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 June 2013 16:40 (1 week ago) Permalink
Antifa.
;_;
― lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Friday, 7 June 2013 16:40 (1 week ago) Permalink
(the breaking story is why I posted the antifa gym, I was sort of too upset for words but thinking of Malcolm Harris's line "I'm less worried about Unifying The Left than I am about how few of us can throw a punch."
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 7 June 2013 18:29 (1 week ago) Permalink
We used to have AFA but they are long gone at this point. Antifa are around but in the UK at least I guess militant anti-fascism got complacent while the far right were in a slump and the most visible anti-fascist group nowadays is Unite Against Fascism which is basically the SWP and they were the ones who kicked out the ANL for confronting the NF in the first place.
Not that any of that is really relevant to me, I'm not much of a fighter.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 7 June 2013 21:53 (1 week ago) Permalink
His name was Clément Méric fwiw. Clément is a first name.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 June 2013 23:16 (1 week ago) Permalink
Thx
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 8 June 2013 05:31 (1 week ago) Permalink
Red and Anarchist Skinheads (RASH)
― lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Saturday, 8 June 2013 11:26 (1 week ago) Permalink
yall remember the tinley park 5? this is a roundup of american antifa action in support of or inspired by them. pretty good.
http://tinleypark.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/tinley-park-5-becomes-symbol-for-groups-across-the-country
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 00:41 (5 days ago) Permalink
very recent pbs (i think) doc attracted a lot of attention
― time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Friday, 14 June 2013 00:47 (5 days ago) Permalink
oh nvrmnd i have that wrong
putin--
He also mentioned Occupy Wall Street, comparing it to the Russian political opposition and apparently drawing parallels between the New York city police who cleared “Occupy” protesters from Zucotti Park and Russia’s own crackdown on the opposition. “At a certain point we saw the police cracking down on the Occupy Wall Street activists. I won’t call the actions of police appropriate or inappropriate,” he said. “If there are people who act outside the law, then the state must use legal means to impose law in the interests of majority. That’s the way it’s done in the U.S., and that’s the way it’s done in Russia.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/06/13/vladimir-putin-defends-the-u-s-on-spying-programs-drones-and-occupy-wall-street/
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 01:55 (5 days ago) Permalink
about to interview essex antifa. been looking forward to this one.
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:56 (3 days ago) Permalink
it's on right now: http://server3.whiterosesociety.org:8000/ProgressiveDC
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 17 June 2013 01:23 (2 days ago) Permalink