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lol you play magic as well as poker - ?

are people who pay that sort of money for magic cards people who are playing at a high enough level to be making bank off of it, or at least people who are close enough to delude themselves of same? or are they like IT professionals who don't know how to spend money

thomp, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

its some from both columns, I guess the one defensible thing about it is that they are almost like stock, and I don't think the prices have ever dropped - as time goes on they only get more rare, the only way they'll take a big fall is if the game dies out, which IMO is really not happening anytime soon. my one big purchase was about 6 years ago, I bought a dude's collection for $1400 with the intention of selling most of it over time, and honestly wish I hadn't dealt any of it, as the entire thing would be worth $6000+ today. here's a card that was worth about $15 at the time, check this out now:

http://sales.starcitygames.com//search.php?substring=underground+sea&Go.x=15&Go.y=9

btw I don't think many people are making much money off of playing the game (maybe like 1% of the players), but if you can predict the market for buying/selling certain cards you can definitely do well

frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

should i play the dark ascension prerelease tournament it means getting up at 8am on a saturday

roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

sealed? does the set look cool?

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

lamp, do it for those of us who want to live vicariously through you and provide a full report

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah its a sealed, $25 bucks gets you um some # of boosters (i think 9?) and a promo card.

i totaled up what it would cost me to complete my innistrad set on starcitygames and its like $90 + shipping/taxes. i hate myself sometimes

roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha don't do #2 you will find a complete set to be a white elephant. #1 sounds like a decent use of $25.

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

only pay for cards that you will almost definitely play with + directly enjoy

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

well i dont have $90 to my name atm so theres no risk i was just curious. amusingly enough ive pulled two of the really expensive innistrad cards (snapcaster and one of the planeswalkers) from boosters so its mostly just cheap cards left

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

although i know for a fact you two are both way underestimating the pleasure i would get from having a complete card set

its mostly lol cuz you can buy a complete set of innistrad on ebay for like $110 bux atm

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I think I have a hard time seeing things from a collector's pov but I'm like aspie on the other side of the spectrum. 'what is this object's functional value for me'

anyway I will play anyone itt cockatrice tonight

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

man i just started buying cards again. haven't played since ice age. shit is great.

i haven't played a physical match against a real opponent yet, just trying stuff out on cockatrice. i've won a couple games using decks assembled from cards i actually own. thinking about going out to the burbs for friday night magic tomorrow but worry about embarrassing myself horribly.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

cockatrice is super fun but dudes keep busting out these like $$$ standard decks and annihilating me, would like to play against decks comparable to those found at a south louisiana gaming store.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah when i played iatee last he used a constructed deck that just destroyed me like i could not win

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

look i like the forbidden alchemy into unburial rites into sun titan into grave titan via 8 million rare dual lands as much as the next guy but at some point it turns into an unwinnable arms race

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw man I like the beauty of the unwinnable arms races, it becomes all about statistics and tailoring the perfect deck

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean I like the idea of it, I was very much against it when I was a kid and could afford exactly 3 of the cards needed to make said perfect deck

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

totally. coming back to magic after 15 years, with the internet-enabled secondary market and a grownup's disposable income--these serious decks are somewhat attainable at this point but my mindset is still firmly in buying boosters, opening them up and making do with what i get.

of course i am learning, to which my recent ebay sprees can attest.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha I still don't have a grownup's disposable income I just play online

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

nb by serious i mean stromkirk noble rather than 4x snapcaster

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

look i like the forbidden alchemy into unburial rites into sun titan into grave titan via 8 million rare dual lands as much as the next guy but at some point it turns into an unwinnable arms race

this is why im only playing w/friends or booster draft/sealed

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm gonna play in the dark ascension prerelease. haven't played since invasion but made a new friend with a sick collection and played a couple cube drafts with him; was ill.

is cockatrice the new good online app? what about magic workstation?

i will also play people itt online. suppose i might as well get cockatrice

chillin in the volvo, listenin' to alva-noto (fennel cartwright), Friday, 20 January 2012 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

cockatrice is way better than workstation!

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's way better in that it doesn't crash / is super easy to set up and use

but the deck builder really sucks and there is no sealed generator

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

dark ascension seems pretty neat so far, there's a card that raises all Zombies from the dead and then literally says "Destroy all Humans"

sucks to be like the one dude playing the hypothetical "Human" deck and just get totally hosed. guess you have to accept your fate

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

was thinking about a human deck for dark ascension actually, the human token generators + champ of the parish + all the innistrad human-centric equivalent seems like a good time. until the zombie apocalypse.

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like the 'stuff happens when you have less than 5 life' ability

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

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NZA, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

2,650 results

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

37 mil is for the alternative spelling 'magic the gathering'

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah there are some pretty obnoxious ones (like the pro black and green double strikers and that stupid "geist of saint something" that's way more powerful than it should be), but that card just amuses me - IIRC the Zombies in Innistrad aren't even worth playing in draft

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

im makin a t2 deck based around this card:

obviously its expensive to cast but it's a damn 20-point life swing and there are a lot of good accel. cards, so why the hell not? it's like a $1 card too

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha that's pretty dope

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are some blue/black mill yrself decks that work with zombies but it requires a really specific draft setup in order to get the big black spells to pay off ime

geist of saint traft is way overpowered but its p easy to work against. i still like g/w humans deck tbh just too many combos in limited rn

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

the 6-7 mana cards are definitely so much better than they used to be - i've had games where i'd be in total control and my opponent would just tap out and play some ridiculous card where its like "all your crreatures die, and oh yeah mine all get bigger LOL", whereas in the past it would only be like a 6/6 flyer or something

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

like travel prep + gnaw to the bone make g/w so rad

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

was thinking about a human deck for dark ascension actually, the human token generators + champ of the parish + all the innistrad human-centric equivalent seems like a good time. until the zombie apocalypse.

yeah 'gather the villagers' or w/e the new dark ascension card is that gives two +1/+1 human tokens looks so rad w/champion of the parish.

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

geist of saint traft is way overpowered but its p easy to work against. i still like g/w humans deck tbh just too many combos in limited rn

give me a break, it's got "hexproof", the dumbest ability of all time
so like, I can't touch it, but you can play that enchant creature that gives it +4/+4 and flying the next turn

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf geist of saint traft that's ridiculous

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean that's essentially a 6/6 w/ no drawbacks for 3 mana

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

i havent played against decks w/that card much but its only 2/2

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah but if they get off to a slow start you can hit them w/ 6 damage

I dunno I guess context matters and decks are pretty small creature heavy these days but in old school magic that card would be banned in two minutes

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah Lamp and Morphling was just a 3/3!

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway i'm doin some cock on this sorin's vengence deck, it's actually working okay. what I hate is that I'm playing aganist the same damn decks over and over again, it's like these decks are winning magic WORLDS, you don't need to test them to see if they work!

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha i have no idea what morphling is.

i can see why it seems overpowered and certainly the fact that its reaching snapcaster level prices tends to imply its really good but the couple of times ive played against someone w/that card it wasnt much of a problem, there are so many cheap creatures that can take out a 2/2 ive been able to deal w/them quickly and in draft no ones going to have a bunch of them

i wouldve assumed in constructed formats there are a lot of ways to deal w/ it then but the way its risen in price maybe not?

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

what id really like to see is someone get a werewolf deck that works

Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

problem is there are hardly any good werewolves after transformation. moonmist would slay if transformation got more powerful.

apparently the new werewolves in dark ascension are better

chillin in the volvo, listenin' to alva-noto (fennel cartwright), Friday, 20 January 2012 04:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

morphling was basically the most annoying creature ever, it just seemed unkillable, especially since decks that ran it usually played a lot of counterspells

geist isn't really a format breaker but it's so clearly powerful, a 3 mana creature that can end the game quick on its own and combos with a lot of stuff. like 3 mana creatures that need to be answered right away are so rare.

frogbs, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i haven't really figured out how to make werewolves work but i like reckless waif as a first turn drop given that cockatrice constructed players often don't cast anything on their first turn as their carefully laid trap decks come to fruition

adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:37 (2 years ago) Permalink


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