Thraed of Skrillex

goth scene runs pretty deep in the Bay Area and I have had plenty of friends into it over the years. shit, once I lived with a woman who insisted she was conceived in a coffin... but it's just so silly. I'm sure DJP has a different perspective on it lol

xp

Identify with deej's post the above.

I still have vivid memories of watching 'The Living End' at 17 and really enjoying all the pop-industrial used in the background (Nitzer Ebb or something I guess) and having no idea what it was. I've always wanted to stumble on a club playing stuff like that and get lost in it.

He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.

lol

but yeah I see this pretty clear line from like Wax Trax >>> NIN >>> Aphex Twin >>> dupstep (I guess?) >>> this stuff and it's not really a lineage that interests me.

I guess I still like some Ministry records. That 1000 Homo DJs EP is good.

lol yeah I played the shit out of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c9U5GHJZFE

seems like these songs have a set-up and a punchline which most old industrial didn't have. some of it was tongue in cheek, but it was like that straight through.

never really did the aphex twin or ministry thing or w/e so I've come to the conclusion that I don't really mind brostep - it's no more better or worse than say PATD! which is actually pretty good.

bring on the scary sprites!

i'm not convinced that Skrillex has anything like the talent or the vision to get the best out of it. He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.

Skrillex is producing the new Korn album. It's also a dubstep album (really)

this stuff also isn't just aphex twin, it's also video game midis

i have a (semi-guilty) love for spazzy, headbanging brostep breakdowns. most of the electronic music that i love is the opposite of this, and i don't seek it out, but it's hilarious and effective. also it becomes amazing if les twins are involved (though i can't see them dancing to a skrillex track; their taste in beats is impeccable, really):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G2JV_1RQoE

xp

this all seems like lame variations on silly industrial-goth shit that I found ridiculous back in the 80s

lol this actually makes me think I might like this

KORN have made a DUBSTEP album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouCnSf2ffzY

you can actually hear a pretty direct connection btween the weird rhythmic approach of dubstep & stuff like this (this is a track i heard last time at neo -- contra what i just said, i did actually shazam this one)

dayo otm

Skrillex-brand brostep = video game music + pop-punk melodies + nu-metal breakdowns + "wobbles" + surface familiarity with drill-n-bass era aphex & fat of the land + some superficial elements of drum + bass

ha deej, an old roommate of mine has a parody goth-industrial band that plays neo (he lives in chi).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8YSsjIaDs

goth club called 'neo'

roflz

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i took j0rdan there when he first got here haha.

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yes, me and deej went dancing at this club in my first night in the chi. the cool thing is that everyone there is super into dancing since it's not a "cool" place to be in the first place.

man every skrillex song is really cool until the skronky "dubstep"-y parts

Due to the style of their music lacking a definite genre, they coined the term 'Industrial Jungle Pussy Punk' to describe their music, but later, they denounced the term

right

Between this and that Hipster House thread, I want to crawl further into a hole with a bunch of snooty Jazz records, and forget I ever had interest in anything youth oriented.

the next Skrillex: http://www.celldweller.com/2011/

This dude is seriously next in line.

http://youtu.be/6f7N9gYXfZo

whoops:

http://www.youtube.com/celldweller#p/a/u/2/6f7N9gYXfZo

Just got out of skrillix so incred

one upthread sounds like girl unit

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/312620_581021671183_43201281_32126784_1224318942_n.jpg
welcome skrillex

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392046_581021721083_43201281_32126785_1505365520_n.jpg
he had a crazy light show

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377577_581021890743_43201281_32126791_1680947541_n.jpg

there were hell of high school kids there

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392884_581021765993_43201281_32126787_1795426994_n.jpg

whatever he was wearing made the image of a robot/skeleton/alien creature behind him replicate his movements it was dope

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384955_581021751023_43201281_32126786_586144237_n.jpg

YAAAA

i would totally pay $25 to see him again tomorrow if it wasnt sold out & if my ears werent ringing like cray

2 sold out shows at a 4000 capacity venue, $25/ticket

guys this shit was so FUN. it also made me feel hella old / wish id dropped a bean before going

I don't get where any and all mention of dubstep comes in. To me this sounds entirely like ca. 2006 blog house, albeit with hints of Ruskoesque midtone wobble. I mean, is it that you can't latch on to "electro" as a label anymore because it longer has cache, so they just semi-arbitrarily chose some "relevant" category it kinda might be able to fit into?

Is Distance the Deftones of dubstep? Clue me in, gang!

Went to the Korn show at Roseland last week (kinda had to, I work for their label); the DJs weren't great. The first act was some horrorcore rap trio w/vaguely dubstep-ish beats, just kinda reminded me of shit on WordSound Records circa last millennium. But some of the later stuff was OK, especially if you just leaned against the back wall and let it vibrate your chest cavity like a massage chair. I will say that I am liking the new Korn album more than I have ever liked any of their previous work.

The drug phrase "to drop a bean" immediately brings to mind the masturbation phrase "to flick a bean".

cool story bro

btw all the non-dubstep dropped was rap music -- opening acts (both of which were interestingly enough african american artists -- the group Two Fresh who did like a trip-hop thing & the straight up dubstep 12th Planet, who got tons of crowd love) each dropped Waka Flocka songs into their sets ('grove st party' and 'hard in the paint' respectively). this was pretty much the only non-dubstep music that didnt get, like, a 'dubstep remix'

the other thing that struck me as forehead smacking obvious about the crossover success of dubstep is that it lets people who've grown up dancing to hip-hop dance exactly the same way -- grinding on each other front-to-ass, at basically the same tempo as hip-hop

skrillex himself dropped 'hypnotize' & let it play for at least a full verse, possibly two (cant recall) and fatman scoop's "be faithful". also "welcome to jamrock". but he didnt overdo that stuff which was good. and he did incorporate a lot of different rhythmic templates -- reggae, house, dubstep, etc. at one pt even did a remix of kris kross' 'jump' where it was basically a perfect imitation of the rhythm, but using those cold metallic textures he uses so everything sounded like pistons covering 'jump.' the only way i recognized the rhythm was because he kept one snatch of the vocal sample in there from the original

also the cheesy singalong parts are basically the same thing as when you're at a corny sports bar and someone drops 'living on a prayer'

at basically the same tempo as hip-hop

nb this might not actually be true, iirc most dubstep is around 70bpm (or 140 bpm played at halftime) which is actually a bit slower than most hip-hop ? although rap has a pretty wide variance & i'm not even sure how fast most current stuff is

i realize someone's probably already said as much re: hip-hop tempos but i think seeing this show connected it more closely to the 'dancing' part for me

A lot of southern rap from the past few years is in the 70-ish range. "Hard in da Paint" is 71 bpm, for instance.

deej, are you still saying "cool story, bro"? That shit's on shirts at the mall.

this ain't no middle of the mall shit

I'm still unable to process the popularity of the Skrcjzhgx remix of Cinema. The Benny Benassi version is really good.

this ain't no middle of the mall shit

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Hahaha

Also great ian m. Banks joke upthread

i still don't understand the appeal of this dude. it sounds like vomit.

did deej misspell "thread" on purpose

yeah i'm surprised this isn't a "defend the indefensible" thread

i TOTALLY understand the appeal of this guy, but that's exactly why i have to smh at him fucking up what could be p decent music

j0rdan otm

thraedophile

Also he looks like a crazy homeless person. But not in a cool way. In a 'he'll stalk yr younger sister and try to rape her' way.

he looks like a Korn member's son

I don't necessarily agree with the premises and there are a lot of institutional biases baked in here, but I thought this was an interesting read for background on how you end up with a critical consensus and a skrillex-shaped hole in coverage

https://firstfloor.substack.com/p/skrillex-is-green-day-and-this-is

this four-hour b2b set with Fred again.. and Four Tet (shot from behind the decks) is incredibly fun

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Thanks for this!

that substack article : someone has a massive chip on their shoulder, and hates fun.

for all the chaos re skrillex, he makes grooves that is fun.
my eldest lad has always been properly into the dubstep scene,
goes to nights that are all about 140 and knows stuff.
he saw a skrillex dj set a few years back and loved every minute of it.
'it was all massive drops and brostep, but damn, he has skills' is how he put it.

in other news : looks like there will be physical options for the new albums

https://store.warnermusic.com/en/search/?q=quest+for+fire&search-button=&lang=en_US&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.skrillex.com%2F

that was kind of my take as well

oh, and i realise this is not exactly the same,

but this was the lil dicky thing i was on about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF14wUr4GKE

i.e. the minimal to'ing and fro'ing between them both and the use of autotune ..

crap,
i posted a version that has a long speech in the middle that the original tv show didn't.

I think you're probably right, same 'playing around with saying stuff through auto-tune over a pretty backing track' vibe.

First time Skrillex listener. Trying Quest for Fire rn. These "songs" are awfully short. There are a lot of ideas packed into a few minutes, and the pace can feel frenetic. Would be nice to let some of these tracks breathe a bit.

skrillex is machine tooled for party kids who need something new to happen at least every four measures. tiesto has been doing shorter club tracks with charli xcx, black eyed peas, etc., on the same tip. i used to grumble about this trend because i love getting lost in a groove and because sometimes i need an extra minute or two to find what to play next, but the lack of dead time in these sub-3-minute blasts really helps when you're trying to energize a dance floor.

I've had "Butterflies" with Four Tet constantly on repeat since it dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PEe6TP1kCc

holy crap - just saw some recent photos of Sonny Moore and he looks way different since he's cut his hair. Looks almost like Shia LeBeouf and it's freakin me out

https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Skrillex-2022-cr-Marilyn-Hue-billboard-1548.jpg

in the video I posted you can see he still has the same hair, it's just tied back

incidentally I bet the clip mark e mentioned is after 38:00 in this video of the three of them DJing in a bus in Times Square

Ah yeah I see that now, but perhaps it's the facial hair and coupled with him tying it back now. Also the eyes are strikingly similar too - and this was obscured by Sonny's previous use of the thick rimmed glasses. Apparently Shia has long hair too now?

https://i.imgur.com/VQGk3lg.jpg

His DJ presence is just so different now with this look than back in the day when his boyish looks with his hair down exuded this enthusiasm and giddiness. I guess I'm just expressing a personal bias against his current look, as it reminds me of someone who is way douchier, which is shitty, so I'll shuffle off now...

his boyish looks with his hair down exuded this enthusiasm

he's 35 years old, grinning, jumping up & down and dancing on top of the decks in his shorts, waving and cheering his collaborators, doing call-and-response moves with the crowd... plenty of boyish enthusiasm on display imo :)

anything over age 30 is decrepit iirc

This is an excellent album.

https://i.ibb.co/Snz4srT/george-santos2-640x480-49636597.jpg

"I said boy-ish."

never thought I would enjoy a skrillex album but... fun so far