There's something potentially quite potent about the Brostep genre but i'm not convinced that Skrillex has anything like the talent or the vision to get the best out of it. He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
goth scene runs pretty deep in the Bay Area and I have had plenty of friends into it over the years. shit, once I lived with a woman who insisted she was conceived in a coffin... but it's just so silly. I'm sure DJP has a different perspective on it lol
xp
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Identify with deej's post the above.
I still have vivid memories of watching 'The Living End' at 17 and really enjoying all the pop-industrial used in the background (Nitzer Ebb or something I guess) and having no idea what it was. I've always wanted to stumble on a club playing stuff like that and get lost in it.
― Tim F, Friday, 11 November 2011 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.
lol
but yeah I see this pretty clear line from like Wax Trax >>> NIN >>> Aphex Twin >>> dupstep (I guess?) >>> this stuff and it's not really a lineage that interests me.
I guess I still like some Ministry records. That 1000 Homo DJs EP is good.
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol yeah I played the shit out of this:
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
seems like these songs have a set-up and a punchline which most old industrial didn't have. some of it was tongue in cheek, but it was like that straight through.
― ain't nothing nice (bnw), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
never really did the aphex twin or ministry thing or w/e so I've come to the conclusion that I don't really mind brostep - it's no more better or worse than say PATD! which is actually pretty good.
bring on the scary sprites!
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm not convinced that Skrillex has anything like the talent or the vision to get the best out of it. He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.
Skrillex is producing the new Korn album. It's also a dubstep album (really)
― (Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
this stuff also isn't just aphex twin, it's also video game midis
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
i have a (semi-guilty) love for spazzy, headbanging brostep breakdowns. most of the electronic music that i love is the opposite of this, and i don't seek it out, but it's hilarious and effective. also it becomes amazing if les twins are involved (though i can't see them dancing to a skrillex track; their taste in beats is impeccable, really):
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
this all seems like lame variations on silly industrial-goth shit that I found ridiculous back in the 80s
lol this actually makes me think I might like this
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
KORN have made a DUBSTEP album
― (Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
you can actually hear a pretty direct connection btween the weird rhythmic approach of dubstep & stuff like this (this is a track i heard last time at neo -- contra what i just said, i did actually shazam this one)
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
dayo otm
Skrillex-brand brostep = video game music + pop-punk melodies + nu-metal breakdowns + "wobbles" + surface familiarity with drill-n-bass era aphex & fat of the land + some superficial elements of drum + bass
― Obama's metrosexual cool (crüt), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
ha deej, an old roommate of mine has a parody goth-industrial band that plays neo (he lives in chi).
― this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― (Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
goth club called 'neo'
roflz
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, November 11, 2011 6:34 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i took j0rdan there when he first got here haha.
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Friday, November 11, 2011 6:35 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
yes, me and deej went dancing at this club in my first night in the chi. the cool thing is that everyone there is super into dancing since it's not a "cool" place to be in the first place.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 November 2011 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
man every skrillex song is really cool until the skronky "dubstep"-y parts
Due to the style of their music lacking a definite genre, they coined the term 'Industrial Jungle Pussy Punk' to describe their music, but later, they denounced the term
right
― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Between this and that Hipster House thread, I want to crawl further into a hole with a bunch of snooty Jazz records, and forget I ever had interest in anything youth oriented.
― ███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Friday, 11 November 2011 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
the next Skrillex: http://www.celldweller.com/2011/
This dude is seriously next in line.
― mikebee (BATTAGS), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://youtu.be/6f7N9gYXfZo
― mikebee (BATTAGS), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
whoops:
http://www.youtube.com/celldweller#p/a/u/2/6f7N9gYXfZo
Just got out of skrillix so incred
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
one upthread sounds like girl unit
― post, Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
welcome skrillex
he had a crazy light show
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
there were hell of high school kids there
whatever he was wearing made the image of a robot/skeleton/alien creature behind him replicate his movements it was dope
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
YAAAA
i would totally pay $25 to see him again tomorrow if it wasnt sold out & if my ears werent ringing like cray
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 07:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
2 sold out shows at a 4000 capacity venue, $25/ticket
guys this shit was so FUN. it also made me feel hella old / wish id dropped a bean before going
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't get where any and all mention of dubstep comes in. To me this sounds entirely like ca. 2006 blog house, albeit with hints of Ruskoesque midtone wobble. I mean, is it that you can't latch on to "electro" as a label anymore because it longer has cache, so they just semi-arbitrarily chose some "relevant" category it kinda might be able to fit into?
― Noise II Men (EDB), Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is Distance the Deftones of dubstep? Clue me in, gang!
― errant flynn, Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
Went to the Korn show at Roseland last week (kinda had to, I work for their label); the DJs weren't great. The first act was some horrorcore rap trio w/vaguely dubstep-ish beats, just kinda reminded me of shit on WordSound Records circa last millennium. But some of the later stuff was OK, especially if you just leaned against the back wall and let it vibrate your chest cavity like a massage chair. I will say that I am liking the new Korn album more than I have ever liked any of their previous work.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 12 November 2011 13:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
The drug phrase "to drop a bean" immediately brings to mind the masturbation phrase "to flick a bean".
― kashi west: late vegetarian (rustic italian flatbread), Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
cool story bro
btw all the non-dubstep dropped was rap music -- opening acts (both of which were interestingly enough african american artists -- the group Two Fresh who did like a trip-hop thing & the straight up dubstep 12th Planet, who got tons of crowd love) each dropped Waka Flocka songs into their sets ('grove st party' and 'hard in the paint' respectively). this was pretty much the only non-dubstep music that didnt get, like, a 'dubstep remix'
the other thing that struck me as forehead smacking obvious about the crossover success of dubstep is that it lets people who've grown up dancing to hip-hop dance exactly the same way -- grinding on each other front-to-ass, at basically the same tempo as hip-hop
skrillex himself dropped 'hypnotize' & let it play for at least a full verse, possibly two (cant recall) and fatman scoop's "be faithful". also "welcome to jamrock". but he didnt overdo that stuff which was good. and he did incorporate a lot of different rhythmic templates -- reggae, house, dubstep, etc. at one pt even did a remix of kris kross' 'jump' where it was basically a perfect imitation of the rhythm, but using those cold metallic textures he uses so everything sounded like pistons covering 'jump.' the only way i recognized the rhythm was because he kept one snatch of the vocal sample in there from the original
also the cheesy singalong parts are basically the same thing as when you're at a corny sports bar and someone drops 'living on a prayer'
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
at basically the same tempo as hip-hop
nb this might not actually be true, iirc most dubstep is around 70bpm (or 140 bpm played at halftime) which is actually a bit slower than most hip-hop ? although rap has a pretty wide variance & i'm not even sure how fast most current stuff is
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
i realize someone's probably already said as much re: hip-hop tempos but i think seeing this show connected it more closely to the 'dancing' part for me
― When snap was real ... Thumbs up if you agree (D-40), Saturday, 12 November 2011 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
A lot of southern rap from the past few years is in the 70-ish range. "Hard in da Paint" is 71 bpm, for instance.
― fauxmarc loi (The Reverend), Sunday, 13 November 2011 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
deej, are you still saying "cool story, bro"? That shit's on shirts at the mall.
― kashi west: late vegetarian (rustic italian flatbread), Monday, 14 November 2011 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
this ain't no middle of the mall shit
― tpp, Monday, 14 November 2011 14:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm still unable to process the popularity of the Skrcjzhgx remix of Cinema. The Benny Benassi version is really good.
― blah blah blah, Monday, 14 November 2011 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
― tpp, Monday, November 14, 2011 8:58 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
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Hahaha
Also great ian m. Banks joke upthread
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 November 2011 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
i still don't understand the appeal of this dude. it sounds like vomit.
― GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 November 2011 15:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
did deej misspell "thread" on purpose
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 November 2011 15:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i'm surprised this isn't a "defend the indefensible" thread
― frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2011 15:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
i TOTALLY understand the appeal of this guy, but that's exactly why i have to smh at him fucking up what could be p decent music
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 November 2011 15:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
j0rdan otm
― Admins did ILX Haven (crüt), Monday, 14 November 2011 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
thraedophile
― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 14 November 2011 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also he looks like a crazy homeless person. But not in a cool way. In a 'he'll stalk yr younger sister and try to rape her' way.
― GOIT BUZZ TOYS (a hoy hoy), Monday, 14 November 2011 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
i mean, for what it is
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 January 2013 21:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
hmm I guess I will listen to bangarang, but track above is really generic sounding to my ears, like burial, pearson sound or faltydl with preset drums and strings. it should play in the cool teen store at the mall, whatever that is
/baddayatwork
― Dominique, Thursday, 3 January 2013 21:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
and haha
ZOMBY ® @ZombyMusicNow dont ever mention burial and skrillex in same sentence again 16m
― Dominique, Thursday, 3 January 2013 21:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
Has Skrillex collaborated with Unicorn Kid yet? Should happen.
― Tim F, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
it should play in the cool teen store at the mall, whatever that is
this is a compliment right?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
most people don't like youth, lex
― mh, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
actually, mall music is something I have enjoyed -- but not really meant as a compliment. generic-ness being the key ingredient to make any music suitable for the mall
― Dominique, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
sad 4 them
i don't think this track sounds like burial, there's something a bit new agey and ambient and '90s about it rather than ~night bus~ dark, but it is as boring as most burial
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Dominique, Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:51 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i read this as "it's catchier and has a bigger pop appeal than burial" which isn't good or bad
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't really think that track is "catchy". it's maybe "lighter" than a burial or faltydl track. imo if it wasn't made by skrillex, it would never show up on ilx
― Dominique, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
"leaving" off this is pretty sweet
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's less of a copy of burial than faltydl (initially) already was, and way less of a copy than that one track on the Royal-T album. On and then like old Pariah tracks and etc. etc. etc. If copying Burial is a crime then Skrillex is gonna be on death row a long time.
― Tim F, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
ha
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
there's something a bit new agey and ambient and '90s about it
Yeah, definitely picked it up here too. Rather like it.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
he can kick back and skrillax for a while
― mh, Thursday, 3 January 2013 22:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
One of the other tracks has a kind of watery Robert Miles vibe to it as well.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
amazing
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― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
Am I a disgusting savage for liking the skrillex/a$ap rocky collabo?
― Tim F, Monday, 28 January 2013 06:55 (3 months ago) Permalink
it's a pretty decent song but like "fuckin problems" is just asap grafted onto an already existing track... i guess there's virtue in that to some ppl but idk
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 January 2013 07:07 (3 months ago) Permalink
I don't like it for ASAP per se. But it makes me imagine many other Skrillex rap tunes.
― Tim F, Monday, 28 January 2013 07:34 (3 months ago) Permalink