there are some ok songs on cold lake, really. but it doesn't really work as an album.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 14 April 2008 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Not much love for Morbid Tales then? I think I like that one better than TMT. Also I really liked Monotheist, so my top 2 are the complete opposite of xhuxk's!
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 14 April 2008 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I had a funny feeling you would like Morbid Tales!
Bill must be related to Alex In NYC
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 14 April 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link
'i won't dance' is an absolute gas. no wonder i opted for 'into the pandemonium'
such a frequently funny band. it's interesting to think that aaron 'humourless' stainthorpe derived so much inspiration from them.
― Charlie Howard, Monday, 14 April 2008 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link
That's a great song.
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm almost tempted to say Monotheist, but have to go with To Mega Therion. That sucker's a masterpiece.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
We seem to have a runaway winner here. (I chose it too btw)
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Some day I will sit down and figure out what exactly it is they're doing
-- Øystein
I'm no musician, but it sounds to me as if they take a run of notes, often cloely clustered, and then explore all the ordering possiblilities of that note run. It's as if they're doing the musical equivalent of permuting letter combinations to generate new words. I wonder if someone could shed some light on this.
― moley, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link
BTW with Cold Lake - don't listen to it as the worst album CF ever made - listen to it as the best album Venom never made. And try not to think of the video for 'Cherry Orchards'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI74tyUefY4
― moley, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link
tom g. warrior is an ugly, ugly man.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link
listen to it as the best album Venom never made
Popoff compares it to Accept, and NWOBHM (especially Tygers of Pan Tang). Which probably makes more sense than the time I compared it to Blue Oyster Cult.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
love the updated BM look
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Into the Pandemonium all the way for me. So much variety! "I Won't Dance!" "Tristesses!" And the best version of "Mexican Radio" ever starting the damn thing off. Never could really get into To Mega, and I really didn't like Monotheist the last time I listened to it.
― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Listening to Into The Pandemonium right now, specifically the two mixes of "One In Their Pride"...weird to think of Tom G. Warrior listening to Tackhead, but this stuff is a total Tackhead rip.
― unperson, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
OK, this thread has inspired me to pull out To Mega, and I have to say, I think I've gotten into it finally. Into the Pandemonium is still my favorite, for sheer craziness, but TMT is a pretty solid slab of metal. Maybe I'll even pull out Monotheist again... although I had a really negative reaction to it, so we'll see.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I've always found Pandemonium to be just a litle too eclectic for its own good. Never could get into the "Mexican Radio" cover.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
OK, listening to Monotheist and digging it. Right now I'm on "Drowned in Ashes" and getting a kick out of Fischer's Peter Murphy impression and the female vocals.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Monotheist is brilliant
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
this is a good poll. seems that every record has a case for it with the variable being the type of music fan listening to it.
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 17 April 2008 07:37 (sixteen years ago) link
haha just watched the video for 'cherry orchard' that track totally takes its cue from motley crue's 'looks that kill', but is somehow a lot more limp and devoid of energy
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 17 April 2008 07:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Cold Lake is a terrible album, but I've always sort of liked "Cherry Orchards".
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 17 April 2008 07:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Wonder if Vanity/Nemesis will get any votes?
― Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 April 2008 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
How come nobody ever talks about Vanity/Nemesis?
― matt o, Thursday, 17 April 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link
i haven't heard v/n in like 15 years. i remember it as disappointing. i almost bought a copy the other day but angel rat seemed like a better buy.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link
-- xhuxk
I can hear that maybe - esp. Pang Tang. It's very, very heavy hair metal - can that be a bad thing? I don't fully comprehend the bad press this record has received. Maybe they should've released it under another name.
― moley, Friday, 18 April 2008 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Judging by the reaction it got and still gets it shouldn't have been released at all?
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 18 April 2008 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link
But what does Janne think?
you know what i need to hear again? discharge's grave new world album. i haven't heard it since the 80's. another album that people hated after worshipping a band feverishly.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 April 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
It is really pretty awful. I like a lot of crossover stuff from the time, but not that stuff. Massacre Divine is just as bad. I never heard Shootin' Up The World.
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 19 April 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm sure Janne would hate it.
― moley, Saturday, 19 April 2008 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Sunday, 20 April 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
To Mega Therion! I can't believe people are voting for Into the Pandemonium. Sure, there's a few classics on it, but there's also a few songs that flat out suck.
― Reatards Unite, Monday, 21 April 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I listened to Morbid Tales for the first time in awhile last night, and was struck by how awesome it was. Not better than To Mega Therion, but better than I remembered.
― novaheat, Monday, 21 April 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link
i think To Mega Therion is going to win easily.
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 21 April 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Monday, 21 April 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
9 jokers for cold lake then
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 21 April 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
chuck eddy has eight sockpuppet accounts
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link
there was a secret thread someplace where one guy told eight other dudes to go vote for cold fucken lake
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link
I dont think even Chuck voted for it!
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link
More votes for Cold Lake than for Morbid Tales = world has gone mad
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I think I forgot to vote. Although even if I had, it still would only have 5!
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Just listened to Celtic Frost for the 1st time today. I dl'd To Mega Therion and listened to it in the car during my 5 a.m. commute. Black clouds sailed past the full moon as I sped down the parkway. This is a fitting opener to Halloween season. This has been missing my whole life.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 4 September 2009 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Welcome! <maniacal cackle>
― Soukesian, Friday, 4 September 2009 12:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Top shelf. I think Montheist beating out Morbid Tales in this poll is utter nonsense.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 5 September 2009 04:51 (fourteen years ago) link
And you can remove the "I think" part of that statement. It's totally objective fact.
I think Monotheist has become my favourite ahead of Into the Pandemonium , as that's the one I pull out to play mostly now.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 5 September 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
^This guy is crazy! :)
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 6 September 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Had left TMT in the car CD player last night and it was on when I started up the car to take my kid to the bookstore. I switched it immediately over to his Spiderman CD and he goes "No. Wait - put that song back on!" So I put it back on The Usurper and he had on this full-toothed grin and doing this swaying back-and-forth dance...kinda an Axl Rose thing.
About two minutes in, I saw that he was staring into space and figured he was bored so I asked if he was ready for me to change it back to Spiderman. "When this song's over, you can put it back." Cool.
After I changed it back he says "I like angry music because it's loud and because IT'S ROCK AND ROLLL!"
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 13 September 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
http://a211.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/111/l_da1124a8edcfe9edcca797dbea36eaca.jpg
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 13 September 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Somewhat off topic, but let's give it up for Hellhammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTr7_mhD9ew
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 13 September 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Well damn -- Martin Eric Ain has died.
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-celtic-frost-bassist-martin-eric-ain-dead-at-50.html#tjcBAASLSBv2PwR8.01
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 October 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
RIP
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Sunday, 22 October 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
Tom G. Warrior's memorial is a must read
https://fischerisdead.blogspot.ca/2017/10/martin-eric-ain-1967-2017.html?m=1
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link
That was a great read. And I'm glad I put on Morbid Tales while I read it.
― The Fortnightly Intruder (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 26 October 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
ever since the weather changed i've found it hard to listen to anything that isn't to mega therion
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
Solid Fall listening
― DEATH PUPPET (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
I wish everything sounded like Tom G Warrior's guitar. even people's voices.
"hello" = the riff to "Procreation of the Wicked"
― genital giant (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
doing a near complete CF walkthrough. skipping TMT for now cos I've played that one 3000 times more than any other, and I want to revisit Morbid Tales (which I love), Monotheist (which I suspect me getting into Triptykon will have changed my mind about it), and Vanity/Nemesis, which I never have heard.
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
played Into the Pandemonium earlier. kinda enjoyed the 90s Helmet-y alt metal flourishes that occasionally pop up
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
I've come around a lot on Monotheist. I think the problem was one of shock. When CF reunited, I didn't expect TMT again considering they'd put three albums out after it that moved away from that sound before they broke up the first time. but sure as hell didn't expect a droney-type groove either.
I think getting into Triptykon years later helped me, though I think Triptykon is a improved version of what they were doing here.
Vanity/Nemesis wasn't bad but the production defanged Tom's guitar. I'm guessing this was done on Cold Lake as well (which I haven't heard?).
― I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 May 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link
after many many years of struggling with it, i have finally become an into the pandemonium person. something clicked
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link
I love the first three equally. Morbid Tales deserved more than four votes!
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link
i think i always loved it bc i love celtic frost but also had difficulty wrapping my mind around... idk it's like a bizarrely-shaped thing, its ambitions make it a little unwieldy and hard to pin down, whereas mega therion is just a tank rolling over a field of skulls plus a freakin scary musique concrète track y'know. everything about pandemonium feels like it's happening a few inches off the ground, the riffs are really weird, warrior spends half the tracks trying to find his goth voice, the production is kind of thin and dissociated which is warrior's one grievance with the record iirc but i think it only contributes to the bizarre mood of it, the pop-metal and industrial moves on the second side just feel really right in terms of creating a nightmarish landscape where anything can happen like you can slip through a porthole into deep space etc. just feels like the exact thing i want to listen to right now
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
it was also my first celtic frost record, and when i bought it in college i really couldn't make any sense of it whatsoever lol
It was my first CF record in high school and, for some reason, I loved it immediately. Probably helped that I loved the Wall of Voodoo original of "Mexican Radio" and was getting into early Christian Death at the time.
― Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 18 March 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link
I probably wouldn't have understood ITP if i Hadn't heard earlier CF first.
I started with To Mega Therion and instantly loved it, and then ITP sounded like a progression of that sound with more outside elements added.
― "Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 March 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link
https://letterboxd.com/unawarewolf/film/celtic-frost-live-at-the-hammersmith-odeon-3389/
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 June 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link
Anybody get Danse Macabre box? I did and it rules.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 04:31 (one year ago) link
Yep. Sure does.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 2 December 2022 05:28 (one year ago) link
I would also buy a Celtic Frost boxed set of it came with only a logo patch and a few shards of grass though
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link