― Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Comstock Carabinieri (nostudium), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link
ding ding ding
― sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link
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― latebloomer: Pain Don't Hurt (latebloomer), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Nigel (Nigel), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
that must have been really 'neat' for you.
― harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Nigel (Nigel), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
They haven't gotten round to that one yet :-)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 June 2005 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 2 June 2005 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link
madonna might disagree with that.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 2 June 2005 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 2 June 2005 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link
OK Computer = Sgt PepperKid A/Amnesiac = Two Virgins
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 07:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 08:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Great analogy - but I suspect more appropriate on the Coldplay thread than this one.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Geir, are you forgetting that Kid A was a US #1? Arguably, they were even more ubiquitous during that period than even when OK Computer came out. Neither Kid A nor Amnesiac were "marginal" releases.
Anyway, I don't really care what the general attitude towards them will be. I will always remember them fondly.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link
madonna might disagree with that. ---bjork might argue too.---I think the word "successfully" appears there, which would disqualify Bjork.---xpost(s) - Can we just give Nicolette the credit & stop worrying about it? (That said, I only heard her second record & didn't much care for the vocals tbh).
Madonna? has Madonna ever been first at anything in a strictly musical sense? Love or loathe her for it, music provides the means to her end. The oxygen of publicity giving her the space to become the meta-media-entertainment figure she is. No bandwagon is un-jumpable on in her quest.
Pinning Björk as "fusing IDM with rock/pop" seems an oddly retroactive, scholarly and very, very reductive way of approaching her work*. If I hear some beats in 'Homogenic' that are close to 'Chiastic Slide' Autechre, it's only because I've had it suggested to me after the fact. There's so much more going on than that influence-wise. She's as much a contemporary of many of her influences as a 'follower'.
*Hell, this goes for Radiohead too, although their 'influences' are more easily spotted, much less absorbed & naturalistic imo. The fact they are reproducing electronic(a) music on more traditional instrumentation has given them something of a disguise though. It clearly winds some people up something terrible, how dare they! :-D
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link
*whistles Bob Marley*
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
probably not. has radiohead?
i was simply pointing out that ray of light came out way before kid a.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
What else on there besides 'Frozen'* is IDM-ish btw?
*which sounded like a shameless 'Homogenic' rip-off at the time to me.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't know if it still would if I heard it again today. It just seemed a peculiar way to 'thank' Björk for writing the title track of her previous album back then.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
The royal 'we' I presume.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― beta ray bill, Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Most. "Knives Out" and "Optimistic" aren't too bad, but the rest are go nowhere. They are repetitive, monotonous, lack an obvious chorus etc. etc. They lack climax simply. You may call the kind of song I want "formulaic", but there is a reason for that formula. It is there because it works better than anything else.
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― Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 2 June 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 3 June 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link
I make the Beatles analogy only because no one since the Beatles has written better music. Obviously they haven't had the cultural impact, etc., but hopefully popular music will progress in such a way that, in the future, people will listen back and realize how important they were.
― Nigel (Nigel), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 21:43 (6 years ago)
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
radiohead is a good band
― fela cudi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
Personally, I think they're important for being the first band to successfully fuse IDM (or whatever people call it these days) and rock/pop
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, June 2, 2005 2:41 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkbjork might argue too.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, June 2, 2005 2:47 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm! also, tori amos.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if they'll reboot bands like they reboot movie franchises, and this will be the only way people of the future can find meaning in it.conceivably gorillaz could be resurrected by pixar indefinitely.not looking forward to jj abrams jr.'s radiohead.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
wait, madonna did pop + idm? if generic trancey beats ala William Orbit = IDM to you, smh. am i missing some great madonna track that fuses pop + idm?
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
I doubt they'll be making music together, but they will certainly be considered among the "canon" by one "The Bends"/"OK Computer" camp and one "Kid A" camp.
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
I can see OK Computer being reissued about a million times
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
If the CD survives, that is....(Which I believe it will, but obviously streaming is a bigger threat towards the CD than digital downloading ever was - because streaming is legal and earns the artists money)
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
― fela cudi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:24 PM
boom
― markers, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
they could redo the whole album digitally like george lucas and make it rhyme more.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
or remove Thom Yorke completely and make the albums pleasurable to listen to
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/jar_jar.jpg
"Mesa Karma Police, arrest mesa man..."
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― markers, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link