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the soundtrack albums are pointless as i recall. the bloomsbury theatre album is fantastic though.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 11 March 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

? Amazon.co.uk, Play.com and 101cd.com are all stocking it - and all quite cheaply too, presumably because of the forthcoming remastered / bonus CD issues.

101's currently cheapest if you're going to buy something else as well, otherwise by the time you've paid a quid for postage & packing it works out the same as Play (£7.99).

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the "old" un-remastered single disc versions of all those albums kicking around extremely cheaply once the new ones come out 'though....

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 11:50 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry, last message was replying to !!! rather than Toby.

The Bloomsbury Theatre one seems to be the only one that isn't still available in the original version.... if it's that good it might make re-purchasing the 2nd studio album a little more pallatable 'though.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

This is weird - if I already have the second alum as a double CD set with the Bloomsbury gig as the second CD (bought in Germany in 1995ish), am I in possession of a rarity?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago) link

I'm perfectly happy with the sound on the first three albums, so see no need to repurchase them. The bonus disc on the 'greatest hits' set looks far more tempting, though.

― Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:15 (twenty years ago) link

Unfortunately it seems to be one of those FREE BONUS DISC (when you buy the first disc at twice the normal price) deals.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 11 March 2004 12:34 (twenty years ago) link

what great advances in technology have been made in the past four years that would justify a 'remaster' of simple pleasure anyhow??

― !!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

so how come the original version of Marriage Made in Heaven(WITHOUT Rosselini) is nowhere to be found? Or am I dense?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

It would be 1/100 th as interesting without Isabella Rosselini. I wouldn't want to find it.
Does anyone else here have a lot of love for last year's "Waiting For the Moon"? I thought it was spectacular, but it didn't have anywhere close to the impact that their earlier records did.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 March 2004 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Worst voice ever.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 11 March 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

Barry, have you heard the original? It's SOOOOO much better! The arrangement's totally different, and of course the singing is totally different....

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

Dan: I haven't ... sorry, it's out of character for me to slag something without hearing it ... I think I have difficulty imagining any Tindersticks duet without the female singer. Those tracks are always one of the finest on their albums.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 March 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

I adore this band but don't think I'll shell out for remastered versions of any of these records, because they all sound pretty good to me. well, maybe the first one. I liked waiting for the moon more than can our love or simple pleasures. The first two will always be my favorites though. The one asphault ribbons song I heard was terrible!

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 11 March 2004 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

The original Marriage Made In Heaven single was a Rough Trade Single Series release with a drawing of Lee Hazlewood on the cover and a dedication on the back, something like "To Lee, father of us all" and it DOES feature female vocals, just not Isabella Rossellini's. I forget exactly who sings but it's not too unlike Travelling Light, another great male/female duet from the second self-titled album.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 11 March 2004 23:56 (twenty years ago) link

since when have records that are 10 years old or so needed to be remastered? No way I am re-purchasing these.

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

the original "marriage made in heaven" is so so so much better than the pointless retread with isabella rossellini.

funnily enough the female vocals are by her out of huggy bear, greeham coxon's ex. endearingly nasal.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 12 March 2004 03:39 (twenty years ago) link

simple pleasure is still my fave tindersticks lp BY FAR

― !!!! (amateurist), Friday, 12 March 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

Love the first album, not sure if you need more than one Tindersticks record though.

― holojames (holojames), Friday, 12 March 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

amst, can you explain why you love simple pleasure?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 March 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

I have the other marriage made in heaven, I can put it on slsk tonight if anyone is looking for it.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 12 March 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

You know how, on Shooting Stars, there's a bit where Vic Reeves sings a song in a ludicrous "pub singer" voice and the teams have to guess what the song is? Well that's The Tindersticks that is.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 13 March 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

cozen i think i celebrated that lp on some other tindersticks thread...

― !!!! (amateurist), Saturday, 13 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

Revived because I'm listening to some early Peel sessions courtesy of s1sk and darned if it ain't all really good stuff.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Total Freakin' Classic. Unless you're like, rilly rilly Calvinist.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Monday, 10 May 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

utter classic.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I think theirs are the only indie strings I can bear.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

god, "(you take) this heart of mine" is soooo lovely

― amateur!!st, Friday, 17 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

keep the first one. sell the others. they are just pale copies of the 1st tindersticks album. and yes. me too i spend half a year listening only to the 1st album. live they were disappointing. staples was on whiskey, i think. his voice is an acquired taste, that's the expression right? what i always loved about the album. the passion, the total indulgence, the physicalness. the others were much more subdued. extremely boring. a one trick pony that band. but they never arrived to repeat their trick!

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

they are just pale copies of the 1st tindersticks album

simple pleasure doesn't sound like the 1st album at all, excepting stuart's very distinctive voice

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

the only record that sounds like the first album is the second album, and some people I know like that one more (I prefer the first). I do think their albums can be uneven, or a little undistinctive, but there are exquisite moments on all of them; Simple Pleasures is my least favorite, the first and Can Our Love are at the top of my list. the two times I've seen them live they were amazing.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah they are great live

simple pleasure is their 70s soul album, essentially. lots of philadelphia strings and hi records drum patterns

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah the only thing I didn't like much about that record was the background vocals. also, my CD got scratched years ago and skips, and the thing is impossible/expensive to replace. I should go download it and give it another chance.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

the second is my fave. I saw them play with a 13 member string section in Dumbo. It was amazing.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

A nightmare is to be strangled with a Tindersticks-cd. What I'm saying is that Tindersticks playing Pavementsongs is too. Big fat dud. I don't like them. They are my definition of bad pretentious pop music. Maybe Mercury Rev is their opposite.

― strom (strom), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

. What I'm saying is that Tindersticks playing Pavementsongs is too.

has this ever happened? I can't imagine it.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

It's true. They recorded a version of "Here" for a tribute some years ago.

― strom (strom), Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a b-side to one of their singles, "Kathleen", iirc.

Tindersticks albums rankings (not including live albums and soundtracks)

1) Tindersticks
2) Curtains
3) Waiting for the Moon
4) Simple Pleasure
5) Tindersticks II
6) Can Our Love ...

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

even though i understand almost anything bad about this band that one could say, I really adore them. Tindersticks II was sort of a fixture during the beginning of high school for me; even though I hardly ever put it on anymore, it's one of the strongest emotional reactions I've had to an album... these days, simple pleasure is probably the one I like the best - the opening few tracks are just wonderful. i think bathtime and whatever song follows it on "curtains" with that melodic round are their best songs.

― dave k, Saturday, 18 September 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the second album is my favourite too. for anyone who loves the 'sticks can i reccommend "by the roads and the fields" by Crescent (on fat-cat).

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 19 September 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Tindersticks II is my fave

― mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 19 September 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

So is Can Our Love not so high on the ILMers' love scale? It's the only one I have...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 19 September 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

SticksII keeps sliding down my list as the years past. After a while it feels too much like hearing the same song over and over. "Curtains" is gorgeous, it's like you'd had a splitting headache when hearing the first two records, but by "Curtains" it's gone and it feels like you're finally hearing them without the smoke and the fog for the first time. I hold the string arrangements responsible for this.

"Simple Pleasure" and "Can Our Love" are uneven, but do feature some outstanding songs (the closers, "CF GF" and "Chilitetime" are the standouts). "Waiting For the Moon" was an incredible return to top form, containing exceptional tunes delivered in every style the band has used throughout their career. It's probably superior to "Curtains", but I'll need some more perspective (=passage of time) before deciding for sure.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 19 September 2004 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i still haven't heard the most recent one.... my favorites on "simple pleasure" are:

- if you're looking for a way out
- (you take) this heart of mine
- cf gf

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 19 September 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i really like the opening track too; i saw a video for it on portugese vh1 last week... i didn't realize the band did videos at all

― dave k, Sunday, 19 September 2004 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link

do you mean 'can we start again'? that's a nice track too; i think it was the single

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 19 September 2004 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

I have heard 'No Man In The World' and 'Trouble Every Day' (so so wow) and 'Rented Rooms', they are kinda amazing, to me! What album should one start with?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

II or I

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Shall do!

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i think II may be better but i love I more for time-in-my-life reasons. If you do get one then d/load "travelling light" (from II) straight away.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

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Pondering a "rowdy" Tindersticks play list - "Fast One" and "4:48 Psychosis" being the obvious starting points.

What should be on there?

― djh, Monday, 30 August 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

"Her" off the first record?

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 30 August 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link

"City Sickness"?

― henry s, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 00:19 (two years ago) link

whiskey and water could be done in a pretty rowdy style

― akm, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 05:40 (two years ago) link

So far ...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2xkrEf49hQpLCMZyyFoWnZ

― djh, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 08:32 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

gotta say, some beautiful Tindersticks energy on this new Liminanas/Laurent Garnier record (don't be put off by the cover)

https://theliminanas.bandcamp.com/album/de-pel-cula

― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

There's a new David Boulter Xmas-y thing here:

https://claypipemusic.greedbag.com/

― djh, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link

There's a lot of red.

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 19 December 2021 21:29 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

New career-spanning box set now up for pre-order:

https://shop.cityslang.com/products/past-imperfect-the-best-of-tindersticks-92-21-4lp-box-set-exclusive-7-inch

There's also an ultra-limited run of 300 clear vinyl copies via Rough Trade.

― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 17 January 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

It's a bit difficult to be very excited about that. And I love Tindersticks.

― djh, Monday, 17 January 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SfAu_MmvEw

― djh, Saturday, 12 February 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

An instrumental playlist (draft/early version):

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/20d7vs21rgUxh8vS9fGJjt

Need to go back to the soundtracks with red wine.

― djh, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link

Not sure if the recent David Boulter mini-CD has been posted on other threads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwLM-b5kHJI

― djh, Thursday, 16 February 2023 07:12 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

My Tindersticks Spotify playlists:

Songs for the cat
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7kSYlZUZL66QSicP4dVPeB
Named on the highly twee idea that my cat is happy listening to Tindersticks. A single CD best of.

A Tindersticks Disco
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0bemoNJ96EBMOhClH4ZJ27
The original versions of some songs covered by the Tindersticks interspersed with Tindersticks songs - think I'd originally meant to create a sort of imaginary Tindersticks DJ Kicks but got too drunk. (Curiously, I was pondering what would be the inspiration for their first album songs, the other day).

Bottle 1, Bottle 2
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6qyrg5nOGWRfDofEbvF0fJ
Self-explanatory. Supposed to cover the arc of an evening.

Closing Titles
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/20d7vs21rgUxh8vS9fGJjt
Instrumentals (Could do with being edited to include more soundtrack recordings).

A drunk shouts outside your window
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2xkrEf49hQpLCMZyyFoWnZ
Rowdier tracks!

― djh, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:07 (eight months ago) link

I was just thinking about the first timr I met their one time manager James Endicott sitting in a van talking to Norman from Boy Hairdresser after the Primal Scream gig that had been Dinosaur (jr)'s London debut because of a Teenage Fanclub t-shirt somebody shared a photo of earlier.
Like just a couple of minutes before I saw the thread revival.

Saw them in the Olympia in Dublin in the late 90s. Do enjoy the records too.

― Stevo, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 23:27 (eight months ago) link

Thanks for the playlists, djh! Been curious about Tindersticks for a while but never checked them out, will have a listen to that cat one when I have a moment

― vexingvexillologist, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 12:38 (eight months ago) link

Are there obvious influences on "Her"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS50FPRMiQ8

By which I mean ... If I like this what (non-Tindersticks) music would I enjoy with my bottle of red?

― djh, Saturday, 12 August 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link

God idk. I love that album so much. Whenever I feel like listening to Nick Cave or The National I mostoften just switch over the Tindersticks instead

― Snoopy is a cat, who lives in a cage (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 August 2023 20:23 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

Enjoying this, by David Boulter: https://davidboulter.bandcamp.com/album/five-nights-in-maine-soundtrack

― djh, Sunday, 3 March 2024 10:52 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

A friend asked if I'd make a compilation of what I thought Tindersticks would play on their tour later this year - they've not really followed them after their third or fourth album:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6iU2G4AnPQ16fXelETcfVx

This is based on what they were playing in 2023 ... and doesn't include anything from "Distractions" (which I don't really know) or their new album. Threw in some recent tracks I like. Imagine that they play "Her" or "Marbles" or something as an encore.

Enjoy with red wine.

(As I did).

― djh, Monday, 8 April 2024 19:19 (one week ago) link

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