C/D--Nine Inch Nails

Got out my copy of The Fragile the other day. Most of that album is really not good! And what drove me up the wall wasn't just lyrics, it was the way the songs were so calculated, structurally - so predictable - verse, chorus, verse, repeat, add sound layer, add sound layer, add sound layer, add singsong refrain, drop them all out, blast of everything at once, repeat.

Overall, I still like the Fragile a lot despite its flaws.

I find that this doesn't bother me on the really great tracks, however, notably throughout The Downward Spiral.

Dude, I've lived in the States for 3 years. [pats head]. Who knew?

that may have been a warning sign, I think.

I agree that Fixed was better than Broken but I large chunks of The Fragile were fantastic. Maybe I'm just very easy to entertain but "The Wretched", "The Fragile", "We're In This Together Now" and "Into The Void" rank up there among my favorite Trent songs.

Pretty Hate Machine is still amazingly innovative, even if its sound is dated at this point.

:::splutter:::;

WHAT? Ministry and Skinny Puppy might vociferously dispute that.

On the topic of NIN, I like them okay. I keep trying to like The Fragile, and sometimes I succeed. The thing is, I really like songs on Disc Two like "Where Is Everybody" and "Into The Void," so I listen to those a fair amount even today. But when I try to play Disc One all the way through, I get hung up almost instantly, because the rhyme "There is a place that still remains/It eats the fear, it eats the pain" just perfectly encapsulates everything that's wrong with Trent Reznor the lyricist. The first time I listened to the CD, I heard the first line of that couplet and thought "Oh, shit, he's going to rhyme 'remains' with 'pain,' isn't he?" And sure enough, he did, and I have hated that song ever since.

Let's try that again.

I would say Trent filtered pop songs through the sound of vintage Skinny Puppy, blah blah blah...

xpost - referring to it as "innovative" was me being a little sarcastic!

Obviously it's his intensity more than anything that gets to people.

You know, that could be. My head's nowhere near at the same place it was when I listened to Downward Spiral day in day out, thank goodness. In the interim between that and The Fragile I went and discovered postmodern irony disease and now I can't seem to un-discover it, so I just can't relate to the stuff in the same way - although I still have a lot of empathy & fondness for Reznor and would totally invite him over for a cup of tea. I think my trouble with NIN is that Reznor seems to think good art is always honest, and to equate 100% honesty with a fairly limited scope of feelings and emotions, 99% of which are negative.. But you can be honest and be goofy and funny, and anyway, good art is not necessarily created in a really loud confessional. Maybe I sound like Captain Obvious saying that but it wasn't at all obvious to me when I first got into NIN.

I think Trent should ditch the whole industrial alternagoth shtick altogether and just write pop music, which is clearly his calling.

Isn't the goth shtick on the way out, though? Perhaps there should be a restraining order taken out against all goths in the vicinity of T-Rez so the rest of us could have some nice pop tunes.

It's one of my favourites this year. I don't understand the hate it got.

ahh still!

no, "still" was an ep post-The Fragile

yeah, fwiw, you can hear belew on a number of more recent NIN tunes if you look at the liner notes for ghosts. wouldn't be too crazy to think they might try fleshing some of those tunes out.

2) Adrian Belew is one of the worst things to ever happen to a guitar.

this comment entirely disgusts me

i really didn't know there were people who disliked Adrian Belew!

There aren't.

Um. I'll just leave this here.

Head Like a Hole mashed with Call Me Maybe

oh shit

t < 30s (-_-) t > 30s ＼(^o^)／

From the Nine Inch Nails Reddit AMA:

Q) Why did Trent announce a new NIN tour at the same time your new album is releasing if he is trying to not be a frontrunner of the band? Odd coincidence in my opinion.

As millionaires, why did you sign up with a record label to promote your new album? Especially when Trent has had a history of being screwed over by said labels and managers. If it's really about the music and getting it out to as many people as possible, why not release it all for free? I understand if you want to make money. It makes sense to want money for your work. However, I don't buy the "get it to as many people as possible" excuse for signing up with a label. Again, especially when Trent conveniently places a spotlight on his former cash cow a few days before your band releases this new album.

Good marketing, Gene Sim-, er, Trent Reznor.
When can I get my NIN toothpaste?

Rezor's reply:

Sorry, the wifi on our yacht is having issues, we can't get your full question to load. Try sending me an email at gofuckyours✧✧✧@youc✧✧✧.c✧✧

The person who asked the question just doubled down, which I suppose is noble to a degree...

http://www.reddit.com/user/no12345?sort=new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhyyQZ67544&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5O145MC0Y

Hahahahaha! 'March Of The Pigs' translates very well!

Right, I'm going to listen to that whole thing next time I'm alone in the house for an hour.

Trent is somewhat of a confused popist I think

Really? :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYBx5NJULY

New song: http://www.stereogum.com/1917494/nine-inch-nails-burning-bright-field-on-fire/music/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign

Kind of cool as a noisy sludge-rock guitar jam, even if there's not that much of a song there.

it's literally a dandy warhols cover :D

Year Zero has been very satisfying to listen to this past week.

This EP is great! Been a while since I was pretty amped from a new NIN release.