yah
― jhøshea, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
Mulholland Drive, followed by Blue Velvet
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:36 (5 years ago) Permalink
inland empire eraserhead elephant man mulholland drive straight story lost highway dune blue velvet wild at heart
Haven't seen Fire Walk With Me. Need to rewatch Dune, Lost Highway, Blue Velvet (hated that one but everyone seems to love it). I can live without seeing Wild At Heart again really.
― Matt #2, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
yeah, I settled on that finally, too
― kenan, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
mullholland dr is an insanely overrated movie.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 20 August 2007 21:40 (5 years ago) Permalink
impossibe
― jhøshea, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:41 (5 years ago) Permalink
a thread about lynch would be disappointing without totally different and in fact opposite opinions
― kenan, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
If MD is overrated, life is overrated.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
I expect someone to defend the touching humanity in Wild at Heart.
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Mulholland Dr. = one dream, a somewhat entertaining middle section, an ok atmosphere, a few GREAT scenes Inland Empire = like four different worlds, all somehow intertwined (God knows how), that all work together to entertain you for over three hours...brilliant atmosphere, cool music scenes, fascinating stories that never drag, you can love it without understanding it...it's like Mulholland Dr. x 25.
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:43 (5 years ago) Permalink
well that one guys head does go flying off xp
― jhøshea, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:43 (5 years ago) Permalink
fascinating stories that never drag
uh
― jhøshea, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
Blue Velvet Mulholland Drive INLAND EMPIRE Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Eraserhead Wild at Heart Dune Lost Highway The Straight Story The Elephant Man
(but it's all real close) The essence of Twin Peaks is #1, though.
― sexyDancer, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:44 (5 years ago) Permalink
Jeez, I'm waiting on my IE DVD from amazon so I feel like I shouldn't vote until I've seen it, but this closes in 3 days, so...Blue Velvet.
Mulholland Dr. I still would have liked to see as a series - if that was just the pilot with some added stuff, wow.
― marmotwolof, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
fascinating is a bit wrong, yes. but definitely interesting
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
Corrected: that all work together badly to entertain bore the pants off you for over three hours what seems like eternity
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:45 (5 years ago) Permalink
mullholland dr is a perfectly good movie. it's just that claiming it's lynch's best work is completely bonkers insane in my opinion. tape store otm re: a few GREAT scenes, but quite frankly a significant portion of that movie feels like someone making a parody of lynch.
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 20 August 2007 21:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
everyone, these are the top four:
mulholland drive blue velvet eraserhead inland empire
arrange 2-4 as you please
― jhøshea, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
trying to imagine a parody of lynch that still didn't feel like lynch is a brain-twisting exercise
― kenan, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:48 (5 years ago) Permalink
otm, he does it on purpose
― sexyDancer, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:49 (5 years ago) Permalink
Mulholland Dr. is wayyyyy more boring than Inland Empire. After you watch it once or twice and figure out that it's a dream, do you really ever want to watch it again? I mean, apart from the tryout scene/"Llorando" clip(/lesbian make out sessions???), it's not THAT great/entertaining. I liked it quite a bit, i'm just turned off by the idea of it being considered Lynch's best work.
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:50 (5 years ago) Permalink
^^^Yes, I realize that I just lost what little credibility that I had.
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
I could watch the "real" last third of MD forever. Naomi Watts being rejected by girlfriend and Hollywood, condescended to at Hollywood parties by ghoulish Ann Murray eating walnuts, drinking bad coffee and masturbating in her apartment -- very painful.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
"After you watch it once or twice and figure out that it's a dream, do you really ever want to watch it again?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
mulholland drive has all the best lynchian symbolic, thematic etc potency while actually being cohesive (it doesnt seem like hes just being willfully strange) and one of the great performances ever from naomi watts.
― jhøshea, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:54 (5 years ago) Permalink
There's duff stray bits that seem like stuff from the TV pilot (the conversation in the Denny's; Robert Forster), but, still, a remarkable salvage job.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:55 (5 years ago) Permalink
I voted for MD.
― Jordan, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:56 (5 years ago) Permalink
Twin Peaks Blue Velvet Eraserhead Dune RABBITS Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me The Straight Story The Elephant Man Mulholland Drive
Lost Highway
Inland Empire (mostly for the inclusion of RABBITS) Wild at Heart
TP:FWWM is easily the worst though, right?
no!
― ☪, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
you cant really fuck with the rebekah del rio - llorando scene
― chaki, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
actually I think Wild At Heart is probably the worst
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:59 (5 years ago) Permalink
"There's duff stray bits that seem like stuff from the TV pilot (the conversation in the Denny's; Robert Forster), but, still, a remarkable salvage job."
Agreed. This is why it's not #2 on my list.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 21:59 (5 years ago) Permalink
Wild At Heart isn't the worst by virtue of the soundtrack and the crazy head blowing off scene.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
But yeah it's pretty bad.
Eraserhead (1977) Mulholland Drive (2001) / INLAND EMPIRE (2006) Blue Velvet (1986) The Elephant Man (1980) Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992) Wild at Heart (1990) Lost Highway (1997) Dune (1984)
haven't quite worked out where I stand with inland empire. need to see it a few more times. eraserhead doesn't make sense anywhere else so it burbles to the top. blue velvet has some special significance for me, that *so* wrecked my head in '86.
it's great that lynch is currently in a second golden age.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:05 (5 years ago) Permalink
I loved wild at heart when it came out, saw it 3-4 times. it was such a daffy, off-the-wall cinema experience. it hasn't aged well, though.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
and the crazy head blowing off scene.
I don't even remember this scene!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
i'd defend wild at heart as maybe "least appreciated" (although there are several candidates for that). for me it's the dividing line between his great movies and his varying-degrees-of-not-great movies (with wild at heart just on the side of "great"). i think it's kind of his airplane! -- a zillion jokes (not all of them "jokes", of course), with enough things that work to make up for all the ones that don't. lots of great scenes. the car crash in the desert with sherilynn fenn picking at her brain iis easily in my POX david lynch scenes.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
the conversation in the Denny's
this is one of my favorite bits in md! it captures a humdrum-but-surreal dream-feel so well, maybe better than anything else in the film (other bits seem more stylized). it is sorta tv-piloty in relation to the whole, but the sequence is flawless execution. and it wakes up the dozers.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
tm OTM re: car crash scene
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
Mulholland Drive is the best movie of this decade you guys.
― W4LTER, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
lotsa memorable sequences in wild at heart - strobe light / thrash metal dancing, koko taylor, fetid new orleans, fenn's car crash, the weird motel scene with john doe, jack nance, et al. the glue holding everything together is pretty weak, though. and by glue I guess I mean nicolas cage.
a certain sequence in the film was a lot more mysterious before "wicked game" got played to death, too.
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:23 (5 years ago) Permalink
Hey Naomi Watts fans, I dare you to check out CHILDREN OF THE CORN PT. IV: THE GATHERING. I have a VHS tape in my basement.
― Tape Store, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:23 (5 years ago) Permalink
now I'm thinking I need to rewatch these 3:
Wild at Heart (1990) Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992) Lost Highway (1997)
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:24 (5 years ago) Permalink
ooh was that the one after URBAN HARVEST?
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:24 (5 years ago) Permalink
no thanks, ts. that sounds like an offer from a serial killer.
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I wonder if wild at heart would've aged better if lynch had reeled in cage and dafoe a bit. he should've hung a sign on the camera that said, "do not chew the scenery. you are not dennis hopper."
― Edward III, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
i like cage's goofier moments. the dancing, his ridiculous "taste the peach" anecdote (eat the peach? whatever it is), his little spiel at the end to the guys who have just kicked the crap out of him.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
Nic Cage is like the Rod Stewart of American film actors - a great, promising start followed by the most horrifying "sellout" bullshit ever
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:36 (5 years ago) Permalink
"take a bite of peach"
― Alex in SF, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
that's the one.
also, source material for the shot of diane ladd with her face covered in red lipstick? when i saw black moon a few months ago i noticed a similar scene there, and that seems like the kind of movie lynch would have loved, but i don't know if they were both referencing something else?
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 20 August 2007 22:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
Ninety minutes of Lynch discreetly away from the microphone.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
i could honestly listen to lynch rambling into an old-timey radio microphone all day
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
i wished his ranting on the inland empire dvd was as long as the movie itself
Lynch moves away from the microphone so he can breathe
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
btw y'all
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think my favorite story from that doc is how lynch had a paper route while making eraserhead and iirc he solicited money to finish the film from the ppl he delivered to
― the manarchist cookbook (Edward III), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ok, so speaking of Lynch DVDs - on the Short Films of Lynch DVD (and I think some other Lynch DVDs too) there's a "Calibrate Your Television" section where you're supposed to adjust the brightness of your set to the point where you can just see the "hidden image" on the screen.
So is my TV broken or is Lynch just fucking with me, because I can't see a thing no matter how bright I set it?
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
best part of the eraserhead doc is his talking about finding a dead cat at an abandoned industrial site while scouting locations for eraserhead and submerging it in a pool of oil for safe keeping, then returning like nine months later and filming henry dredging it up (still there!) and poking it with a hanger. ha ha. such a card.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
reconciling an overwhelming preoccupation with sexual desire and the responsibilities of fatherhood
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:08 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
it's about working a shit job in a dead-end town, living in a crummy apartment and having a bad relationship with a girl you don't really understand. you meet her parents and feel hideously uncomfortable. they're weird and serve you bad food. you desire other women but are also terrified of your desire. you dream pointlessly as a way of evading your situation and responsibilities. eventually you have a kid without wanting one, and you hate that, too.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
duh, lol, that was SUPPOSED to be a response to this:
what, if anything, would you say "Eraserhead" is about?
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:03 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
ranked order incl. major shorts/TV
Blue VelvetThe GrandmotherEraserheadTwin Peaks finaleMulholland Dr.Twin Peaks pilotTwin Peaks: Fire Walk with MePremonition Following An Evil DeedLost HighwayThe Elephant ManThe Cowboy and the FrenchmanDuneThe Straight StoryIndustrial Symphony No. 1Wild at Heart
only thing i actively dislike is W@H.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 06:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh hai put inland empire in there after TP:FWWM
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 06:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Your order just about works for me except that I'm not super crazy about Blue Velvet. I mean, it's a good film, but it falls short as an expression of the Lynch that I love. Your top nine (inc. Inland) is otherwise pretty spot-on. The Grandmother is excellent.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is how I would rank them:
Lost HighwayStraight StoryElephant ManLynch's Twin Peaks episodesMulholland Dr.Blue VelvetOn the AirFire Walk with MeWild at HeartEraserheadInland Empire
Haven't seen Dune or any of the shorts. After a very good first 30 minutes, Inland Empire is a 2,5 hour snoozefest, and Eraserhead is a "film student film" with all the positive and negative things that implies. Everything else worth a watch, at the least.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don't want to rank. I'll just continue telling everyone how gay I am for Inland Empire.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don't want to rank. I'll just continue telling everyone ERASERHEAD
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
would the twin peaks series have won this if it had been included?
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 10 December 2012 01:08 (5 months ago) Permalink
Rewatched half of Dune last night, god that movie is awesome.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 10 December 2012 01:09 (5 months ago) Permalink
dune is terrible. but i will pretty much drop everything to watch it any time it happens to be on tv.
― the oral history of (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 10 December 2012 01:15 (5 months ago) Permalink