The UFO/alien abduction thread

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Expert Chris Martin said they could be spheres which have been seen a lot over London.

"...and they were all yellow..."

there are some who say that aliens are fallen angels, who mislead us away from god.

i think their is a wring of truth to this hypothesis.

lol

Explains it all:

The reason I bring this up, is that last week The Sun runs another UFO story, a full front-pager this time, on UFOs being sighted over a military base. This made me think two things: firstly, that’s a few slow news weeks we’ve been getting. Secondly, that’s nicely timed, considering there’s a new X-Files movie coming out in a few weeks’ time.

The last thought chilled me. Really. Because The Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who in turn owns Fox- who produce the X-Files.

http://www.fractalhall.com/blog/?p=222

Mitchells be believin'!

(here's another one: Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 astronaut)

http://www.australia.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=207:et-&catid=1:latest

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1037471/Apollo-14-astronaut-claims-aliens-HAVE-contact--covered-60-years.html

strange, i just saw Mysterious Skin, so now i think all these folx have been abused :/

also, just saw hilarious filler episode of larry king with a bunch of former USAF ufologist types, and he was totally flummoxed at some point: "ah yeah we're gonna break for a moment here. yeah. that's really wierd."

oh shit utub delivers!!

pts 1 - 4!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwiOHRRbNl0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AlAUtN4lJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkd95fbMHQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHwDcbxwVXk

several years ago i was asking my dad if he had heard of Art Bell (my dad was a ham radio enthusiast, and apparently so is Art Bell)...my dad was very familiar with his name, but was unaware of his radio show. I told him that it was this goofy call-in show where people discuss ufo's and other "unexplained phenomena", and my dad launched into a story about his days in the Air Force, and how he and some of the other guys would occasionally see stuff come up on the radar that bore no resemblance whatsoever to any plausibly existing technology...like vehicles which traveled at ridiculously high speeds or in bizarre patterns and so forth. There seemed to be no reasonable explanation for this stuff, and he said that his superiors professed bafflement as to whatever it could be.

I thought it was interesting to hear this story from him, because he is a very practical-minded person, who had never evidenced any interest in ufo's or "Coast to Coast AM"-type crap before

yeah, so, three weeks after the election and i've seen advertisements for three new UFO/paranormal shows.

this totally fits my theory that democratic administrations = freaky, "in search of" type tv shows and UFO revivalism.

also why is CNN's American Morning having this "In Search of Aliens/UFO's" thing every day this week, with Miles O'Brien telling his personal unexplained-moments accts, and talking about how new Obaman Chief of Staff Podesta is a big believer in opening the US Gov't official files on UFO history...? (This was just on air 5 mins ago)

^^ this was on the tv's at the gym this morning -- the sound was off so can anyone tell me: why do they keep showing clips of jimmy carter?

He claimed to have seen something with a bunch of his friends when he was in the military

I like this, brought up often these days by UFO supporters as "they know something we don't and they're about to reveal it"

Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598508/

I can see myself believing in aliens. I read books on strange phenomenon, love the X-Files, and I would absolutely love to have a UFO experience. I think there is much more to reality than you see in daily life. But it just never happened, I've never had a personal experience with anything anywhere close to a UFO, so I don't believe in them.

They're attacking windfarms!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/7817378.stm

They'll be objecting to the 4th runway at Heathrow next, alien posho bastards

Children traumatised by 'War of Worlds' abduction of teacher

<3 <3 <3

http://www.abductionlamp.com

I ordered one :-)

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091218/tod-giant-pyramid-ufo-hovers-over-moscow-870a197.html

like the article says though, surely other people would have seen this so called mile-wide shape hovering in the sky above them. also this was over a week ago, nodoby said anything until now!

they had their memories wiped duh.

Also you'd have thought that the armed forces (does Russia still have the second largest airforce?) would have probably noticed it too.

Watching the video it looks like something tethered to something.

The night footage (here) is more interesting. But someone has to stop asking Nick Pope his opinion. Never has anyone been so wrong so many times and still he seems to be the first person journos call on any UFO story.

Nick Pope, a former Ministry of Defence UFO analyst, said it was 'one of the most extraordinary UFO clips I've ever seen'.

haha. i know these clips are from the same news production but both have different presenters saying exactly the same line. i just found it quite funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkpbNMHk3Xs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRNq-d31DZQ

Guys I have seen enough Doctor Who Christmas specials to know crazy shit happens to major cities this time of year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE5UQ0IXVVU

Washington, 1952: How the CIA created the flying saucer craze

I am so goddamn happy -- turns out of my favorite trashy as hell 'UFO documentary' films is all up on YouTube. First saw this in 1989 and...well, just take the hour and a half, trust me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jja-Lx2WAhM

But if you want a detailed precis instead:

http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Overlords_of_the_UFO_1976.aspx

if that's not the title of a helios creed tune...

Hahaha OTM

uri geller??

And so much more!

I will need to watch this later.

OVERLORDS is fun, but my fave is UFOs: IT HAS BEGUN (w/bonus Rod Serling!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGYg9jqOn14

i have tomorrow off and i had it set aside to do all sorts of productive things

now look what you've done

Helped you relax, in other words.

i have tomorrow off and i had it set aside to do all sorts of productive things

now look what you've done

My work here is done.

Are UFO Alien Faces an Inborn
Facial Recognition Template?

http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/close-encounters-of-the-facial-kind/

that's a cool theory

that's what i thought too

Huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bMxngl9p__0#!

hill says she'll unleash the government's secret ufo files on an unsuspecting world

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html

It is ~~~notable~~~ to me that a large percentage of the small number of people who have seen classified reports on UFOs, but are also legally obligated not to disclose what those reports say, keep trying very unsubtly to tell us something. https://t.co/40oCiw6zzy

— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) December 16, 2020

I recently watched a TV movie from 1975 called The UFO Incident, about the famous Barney & Betty Hill case of 1961. The movie is surprisingly solid, and well-acted by James Earl Jones and Estelle Parsons playing the Hills. I'm a total UFO skeptic, but I remembered being kind of creeped out by this case as a kid. And even now I find interesting elements to it, among them that the Hills don't seem like obvious attention hounds or fabricators, and that since theirs is supposedly the original abduction case spun as such, they therefore weren't following a script. So I do wonder what really happened that night, maybe something to do with sleep deprivation. I raise an eyebrow at the fact that they recounted their stories under hypnosis over two years after the night of the incident. What led up to those hypnosis sessions, I wonder. Does anyone have any takes on this case? And/or has anyone read any literature on it?

iirc Betty had an interest in UFO/sci-fi stuff before the incident (as it turns out most abduction cases do) and so was, to some degree, following a script.

I highly recommend the book "Watch the Skies" by Curtis Peebles which investigates the origins of many of the famous UFO stories like this.

Aha, interesting. Thanks.

That is a good piece of the puzzle, because I'm speculating that a story took shape over 2 to 1/2 years and I think the seed of it started with the Hills and then there were outside influences (i.e. other people) who probably goaded them on and moved the story forward.

I agree that earlier cases like this are interesting for having happened before many of the ufo tropes were fully developed.

I read through tonnes of UFO/unexplained books as a kid; I can remember being really weirded out by one particular book (which I think was a compilation of an 80s British paranormal magazine) which depicted a bizarre variety of alien beings, and descriptions of dream-like and paranormal phenomena occurring to abductees. This was in the 90s, so most of what I had been reading (and watching) up to then swept all of these details under the carpet (or at least tried to), to present a standardised, "literal" abduction narrative. I was reminded of this recently when watching Arthur C Clarke's Mysterious World; the episode on UFOs, in particular, really was a relic from another time.

Regarding the Hills, there was a book based on a conference attended by UFO investigators of various stripes back in 2007. I haven't read it, but it presents a variety of takes on the subject (I get the impression it's pretty dry and academic):
https://books.google.ie/books/about/Encounters_at_Indian_Head.html?id=ytDEGAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

Thanks, I might look at that one also. From what I've just been reading online and listening to on podcasts, it seems Betty Hill did have a fascination with UFOs before and after the alleged abduction. Her sister had reported seeing UFOs before Betty did. In the early stages of the story Barney appears to have been a reluctant participant in the alien narrative, but that will somehow change later.

this dude does not appear to be a crackpot

i would have agreed, up until the dude claimed the usa is hiding ufos. now he does appear to be a crackpot

the responses to that twitter thread are a great example of how mere mention of ufos brings out the idiot in a lot of people. they’re busy debating “advanced tech indistinguishable from alien / magical / wakandan / time traveler tech” … but the article never says he saw anything advanced, just metallurgy he didn’t recognize. for all we know could be like a lot of the weird rocks found in meteorites and/or spit up by volcanoes, ie completely useless!

I am an alien

Less convincing than the eerie but thus far "zero evidence of alien origin" oumuamua

https://cropper.watch.aetnd.com/cdn.watch.aetnd.com/sites/5/2017/11/CharlieBrownLucyFootball.jpg

Okay this happened in California:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/09/20/77623183-12725557-image-m-57_1699563393039.jpg

Daily Mail is obv. trash but I love their breathless UFO reporting

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12725557/Air-Force-officer-breaks-silence-red-glowing-UFO-size-football-field-hovering-low-altitude-space-launch-base-California-event-witnessed-half-dozen-military-personnel-People-screaming-scared.html

ah what a shame, my adblocker prevents me ever having to read the Mail.

80 people witnessed it but no photos.

It happened in 2003, but yeah.

razr/flipphone camera photos would be about as enlightening as no photo at all lol

Where does one sign up to volunteer to be abducted?

This planet sucks and I am tired of it.

they'll probe you and bring you back just to have recurring nightmares... trust me, it's not worth it

There is something very weird going on with the congressional hearings and intelligence community leaks on this topic over the past year or two. Especially these guys, all retired military commanders: https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190390376/ufo-hearing-non-human-biologics-uaps

I do not for one moment believe the US government has crashed alien spacecraft and “biologics” in their possession. So why is this information being released? What is the point of the hoax and who is behind it?

They're diverting attention away from their own experiments with stealth and anti-gravity propulsion stuff? And linking it all to the little green men makes it easier to dismiss everyone who investigates as a crazy person.

I'd still like everything to be true but without actual proof time travel and faster than light and intelligent aliens etc are all just pipe dreams.

The next "oh that UFO shit you saw for the last 20 years, that was our new triangular stealth bomber, here it is, tadaa" has to be flying around already, they're not going to tell us until they've lost their advantage.

grusch's testimony doesn't project neatly onto this theory

the most reasonable explanation i've heard is that there are some secret programs keeping track of other foreign countries' super-high-tech (eg: china) and that grusch either misunderstood or was deceived about these programs, leading him to understand them to be non-human in origin

Nicholson Baker is not convinced, says it's balloons but doesn't offer a theory for Grusch's testimony.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/leslie-kean-ufo-sightings-aliens.html

a tiny core of purposeful disinformation, a vast army of useful idiots/credulous nitwits (including grusch) and a thin shell of chancers looking for a paycheck, is how I break it down to an extent.

what abt these guys

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFqmEVWWYAAJxih?format=jpg

elder gods are not space aliens

to them we are probably the aliens