Magic: The Gathering C/D

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i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

8/8

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhlq_GhYGsM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_Judgment

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

-- Jordan, Monday, October 29, 2007 2:25 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i did this too ;_;

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

players need to want to own cards more than they want to sell them basically

people also refuse to take losses on anything other than standard cards and don't like trading away any of their high value stuff ever. I think this leads to a situation where all 'high value cards' end up even more expensive than they should be. e.g. nobody wants bitterblossom but nobody trades their bitterblossoms.

iatee, Thursday, 7 July 2016 22:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

standard is my favorite format historically, just think it's a bit less diverse/balanced lately than usual

ciderpress, Thursday, 7 July 2016 22:10 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

looks like they took EMA down. what did you guys think overall? I drafted it ~25 times online and wasn't completely sick of it yet. kinda was MM-style limited where you pick a lane and go with it but there were a lot of fun strategies and a lot of ways to build a 4/5c deck. I was always scared someone would be clever enough to price of progress me when I drafted 11 dual decks but it never actually happened.

iatee, Thursday, 7 July 2016 23:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Apparently Shkreli a lead bought a bunch of Black Lotuses. I find the whole situation pretty hilarious.

I think standard is a bit better now than during BFZ, but not great. I really enjoyed it during Khans block.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 8 July 2016 00:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

a lead = already

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 8 July 2016 00:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

e.g. nobody wants bitterblossom but nobody trades their bitterblossoms.

Yeah I feel intuitively that this is very bad, but it's hard for me to articulate exactly why?

I feel like "format diversity" is what everyone wants but there's massive dishonesty re: admitting that format diversity is often to a large degree a financial effect, like in Modern people keep playing "their deck" even when it's tier 2.5 or whatever because acquiring another is just this impossible shuddering effort. So I don't know if there's a way to have both "access" and "diversity".

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 8 July 2016 00:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

thats definitely the case for modern/legacy, but in standard we've had formats with as many as a dozen 'top tier' decks at once, and right now it feels really skewed towards green midrange and collected company decks which is only a few decks

ciderpress, Friday, 8 July 2016 01:25 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i think what i dislike is more the color imbalance than the number of archetypes tbh. i didn't mind caw-blade standard since there was a good RB deck on the next step down rather than another UW deck

ciderpress, Friday, 8 July 2016 01:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm FB friends with the dude who did the LED and Moat buyouts, used to see him a lot at PTQs. He's gotten SO much hate for buying like 40 copies of these cards, and I think maybe 0.5% of the complainers had any intention to buy these cards, if that. He not only got comparisons to Shkreli, but Hitler as well. And death threats. I'm finding it pretty hilarious and I think he is too. Now that the real Shkreli is involved I can't wait to see what happens

Vinnie, Friday, 8 July 2016 11:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

40 copies, really? That's all it takes to move the price that much?

frogbs, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

There's not a ton on the tcgplayer market at any one time so if you buy that many people see them 'sold out' and panic

ciderpress, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

really feel like I ought to sell out right now, Library of Alexandria is hitting a grand

frogbs, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i've been trying to downsize my collection for a while but a big chunk of it is old standard staples that are marginal in modern and thus have low demand, i've found a lot of these cards aren't actually worth nearly the amount they're supposedly selling for when you look at tcgplayer price. e.g. restoration angel is $12 median currently but no one actually needs them.

ciderpress, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

yeah that's the issue I'm gonna have to. my collection is supposedly worth like 20k or something according to these websites but I can't imagine anyone giving me more than 5k or 6k in a single shot. like someone is telling me "SELL YOUR CRADLES NOW!" which I get, it's over $200 now, but is there really any liquidity at that price?

frogbs, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

you could look at the major vendor online buylist prices or do it at the next big event near you

iatee, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i'd like to go down to 1 deck per format but ever since the birthing pod ban i haven't been able to figure out the 1 modern deck that i'd be happy running forever. i was playing scapeshift for a while but the emergence of infect as a popular deck has made that kind of frustrating

ciderpress, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i've been waiting for someone to come up with a good thopter foundry list since i love thirst for knowledge decks but that doesn't seem to be happening

ciderpress, Friday, 8 July 2016 13:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/eldritch-moon

first thing i noticed is common removal is total garbage. murder and exile lightning strike at uncommon feel like bombs

also, the missing zombies from SOI have arrived

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 July 2016 15:33 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i just want to kill people with Stensia Banquet, that concept is really funny to me

ciderpress, Friday, 8 July 2016 15:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

xp yeah he's only buying from tcgplayer, not eBay, so yeah 40 copies is everything available

Vinnie, Saturday, 9 July 2016 02:35 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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