why the sudden frenzy to do-over polls? are we getting old? is there nothing new under the sun?
polls are fun and most ilx threads are super shitty atm idk
is there real interest in (re)doing this btw?? kidna feeling a video games poll of sort or another tbh
― so solaris (Lamp), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
I like by decade.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
nominate the eighties.
― ceci n'est pas un nom d'affichage (ledge), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 09:47 (twelve years ago) link
I'm looking for video game recommendations, and I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask for them...
I recently played through Kingdoms of Amalur, and I'm now playing Skyrim, and while I'm enjoying it a lot, one thing's kinda bugging me... In both of these games there's a "speech" skill, and even though it can occasionally be used to persuade or intimidate someone to do what I want, in 95% of the quests you just have to kill someone, using your speech skill with them is not even an option. I kinda miss Jade Empire, where a lot of quests (though obviously not all of them) could actually be solved either by persuading/intimidating someone, or by killing them. So, I was wondering if you could recommend me some good RPGs (preferably fantasy ones) where speech would actually matter?
― Tuomas, Monday, 27 May 2013 11:37 (ten years ago) link
Planescape: Torment, Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (at least for the first 3/4ths of the game), and Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas all have interesting quest solutions for characters with strong speech skills.
― one way street, Monday, 27 May 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
Think we might almost be getting close to it being okay to re-do this. Maybe in another year or two. Dom's ''each person gets one nom per decade'' really squeezed out some faves to the point where we had to have a secondary poll of flagrantly overlooked games (e.g. SFII). On the other hand, plenty of beloved cult-favorite stuff DID get nommed but still got no votes so maybe it was fine...
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 May 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
dom haunts us from beyond the grave
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
That list needs more Castlevania and Mega Man games.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:23 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the recommendations, One Way Street! I've previously read positive comments on Planescape: Torment and Arcanum, but I'm not sure if I can handle the isometric (is that the correct word?) graphics and old-school RPG gameplay... Maybe I'll try them one day, though. As for Vampire the Masquerade, I'm kinda averse to vampire stuff in general, and the VtM franchise in particular, so I'm not sure I want to play that one.
So yeah, I'd still love to hear recommendations on newer (i.e. ones with 3D graphics) fantasy RPGs where fighting is not the only option.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 08:29 (ten years ago) link
Action adventure game (a la Zelda or Psychonauts) recommendations are welcome too.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 08:30 (ten years ago) link
i think we're due to redo this poll.anybody wanna drive?― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu)
― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu)
If C+P doesn't destroy me, this is something i might be willing to do in ~6 months. if there's interest.
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Monday, 26 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
I'd endorse that, it's been a reasonably long time and it might be interesting to see how things roll witha different nom system/ballot size. I'd vote, for sure, with the caveat that I haven't *played* that many additional games since 2008!
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
yesssssssss
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 26 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
I'd be down. I'd almost prefer, though, to see the results as applied to just this century. The older results seem fairly predictable and are likely to just show up again in a slightly different order.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
I dunno, I could see them being different. The weird "balanced decade" ballot meant that a lot of much-beloved older things were actually not eligible. OTOH this probably gave rise to some of the most interesting quirks (aka British games I'd never heard of before). There's also the factor of ILX membership turnover and some generational shifting. Still, I get where you're coming from - the 'canon' is more set for the 80s and 90s.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
gtfo with separate super mario entries but "championship manager series" "pro evolution series" imo
― local eire man (darraghmac), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, no idea how I'd handle that if I were pollrunner though, like clearly a vote for SM64 is not the same as a vote for Super Mario Bros. The funny thing is you'd think it would lead to vote-splitting but then like EVERY Mario game placed! I guess I'd like to see no consolidations of series, but lots of horse-trading and backroom deals in the voting thread as fans of the hundreds of low-res Hop To It, Cricket Boy! games decide which one to vote for.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
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― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
Re: lumping series, I'm happy to go with whatever seems liek the popular option. Personally I'd say case-by-case and determined during the nominations.
Honestly don't see how lumping ~5-10 completely discrete games released over 30 years makes as much sense to you as ~20 games released annually with incremental changes, but if you wanna vote-split CM97 vs CM03 vs FM08 vs etc etc etc into oblivion I guess it's yr life.
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Like, a non-franchise poll would be cool. Nothing that has more than maybe one sequel or spin-off.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
I mean, we all know that everybody likes Mario and stealing cars in various cities.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
I think by decade would be better.
Also, I'd love to see a mobile games poll. Thinking just iOS/Android/etc.
― Jeff, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
I'd be willing to drive this one i think
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 January 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
maybe put it on ILE for maximum exposure
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 January 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
i think this thread is on ile, and yeah i def agree -- the more the merrier with the big ones!
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Monday, 26 January 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link
Decades is a pretty interesting idea. Wonder if making several separate ballots would intimidate some people out of playing along, or alternately encourage participation in certain decades by people who otherwise wouldn't bother.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 January 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link
Decades seems like a weird way to split it, at least to me. I kinda prefer generations? (I did a PS2 poll some time ago, I should've included Xbox...)
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Monday, 26 January 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
generations is ideal for console games i think
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 26 January 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link
(but)
This was a really bizarre list. No fighting games either, which is kind of understandable because they usually tend to blur into series rather than stand on their own.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 00:36 (nine years ago) link
Everyone thought someone else was going to burn their one '90s pick on Street Fighter II, but it turned out there were a lot of good games made in the 1990s.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link
Symphony of the Night for one.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 00:56 (nine years ago) link
somebody start a nomination thread for video games of the 80's plz
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:25 (nine years ago) link
I still like generations -- question is, would we start at 1? 2? (3 is where everyone's a renaissance person i think, probably a lot more response on best NES vs best Atari 2600)
(and all 80s = good luck atari 2600)
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 05:35 (nine years ago) link
How do arcade and personal computer games fit in though?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 06:34 (nine years ago) link
i reckon i might well be the biggest Football Manager saddo left on this board and no fucken way am i distinguishing one year from another, bundle or die imo
― No Orchids for Ms. Blonde-ish (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 07:08 (nine years ago) link
also if we do this again maybe my ballot won't get disappeared
― No Orchids for Ms. Blonde-ish (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 07:09 (nine years ago) link
is ILX still british enough for lords of midnight to place
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 08:39 (nine years ago) link
important questions 2015
The handhelds hold roughly similar generations as well (DS vs PSP, 3DS vs Vita). The problem of course is that the PC doesn't really care - so where does a game released before the last PS3 title but after the first PS4 count? And that's not counting staggered console release dates.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:41 (nine years ago) link
Hmm maybe decades is just the best way to do it then. Until '89, 90-99, 00-09?
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
or make best-computer-games its own category? 1/2gen, 3,gen, 4gen, ... & computer games
I like mixing everything together but I'll go with whatever
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
I understand that this would probably be a totally separate thing, but it'd also be cool to see a poll by genre.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
I really see no reason to segregate computer games off in their own space, just reduces turnout in every poll as people may not feel they have enough of a stake to throw in on any given individual poll. Plus, a lot of work for the poll-runner etc.
If they need to be broken down, decades makes more sense - you'll catch people who were gaming a lot at a certain moment in time, regardless of how they split their time between arcade/console/computers. Plus, then the results feel more like a comparison among peers, which could be more interesting - - - ranking Zelda vs. Mario 3 is meaningful in a way that ranking Asteroids vs. Half-Life 2 might not be.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
however we do it can we have a lot of votes on our ballots? esp for games i'm gonna be bummed if i only get like 25 spots.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
just throw everything together, if the kids can't deal with the fact that games were better back in my day then fuck em
― No Orchids for Ms. Blonde-ish (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 07:15 (nine years ago) link
This was a really bizarre list. No fighting games either, which is kind of understandable because they usually tend to blur into series rather than stand on their own.― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkEveryone thought someone else was going to burn their one '90s pick on Street Fighter II, but it turned out there were a lot of good games made in the 1990s.― Doctor Casino, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:50 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Doctor Casino, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:50 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Unforgivable!
― Nhex, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
No offense to Rygar, but there is no way it would have made it on my ballot had Street Fighter 2, any Sim City, DOOM, or Ms. Pac-Man been available.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
for kicks heres another thing we did
ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (116 - 86)ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (85-51)ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (48-21)ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (20-1)
― shit's obviously artisanal (Will M.), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link