White trick-or-treaters in blackface: C/D?

I had a pretty fascinating conversation with an indian guy that I know (who's an ex-marine and cultural studies phd student) about how he's a big Redskins fan. He picked them as his NFL team while growing up even though he lived in the PNW because the logo was the only thing he saw in the media that looked like people he knew. I expected he'd go off about them but his view on was much funnier and complicated than I imagined it would be.

He did say that when he's gone to see them play once or twice he tucked in his braids because he didn't want to give any ammo to the racists who could point to him as supporting their cause.

pardon my ignorance but are geisha costumes offensive?

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Verb!

pertinent article

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/nov/10/racist-redskins/

Give us Clevelanders some credit, the logo used to look like this:

http://cf.juggle-images.com/fill-crop-mid/white/200x150/wg-cleveland-indians-4.jpg

The team and its fans still often point to a 2004 survey by the Annenberg Center, which found that by a margin of nine to one, American Indians took no offense at the name Redskins.2 They have bigger problems to worry about. I admit to a mild curiosity about whether they’d feel differently if they knew the name was dreamed up by the sport’s most overtly racist figure, who even in his will (he died in 1969) stipulated that the Redskins Foundation that was to be created with most of his estate not direct a single dollar toward “any purpose which supports or employs the principle of racial integration in any form.”

I admit to a mild curiosity about whether they’d feel differently if they knew the name was dreamed up by the sport’s most overtly racist figure, who even in his will (he died in 1969) stipulated that the Redskins Foundation that was to be created with most of his estate not direct a single dollar toward “any purpose which supports or employs the principle of racial integration in any form.”

That is one hell of a sentence.

It doesn't scan perfectly, but I've started to read this thread title to the tune of "Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress".

http://www.halloweencostumes.com/blog/post/2011/09/20/how-to-make-a-lil-wayne-costume-or-how-to-have-swagger.aspx

OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE. ANDRE AGASSI????

http://deadspin.com/5855305/andre-agassi-is-mr-t

hoo boy

I mean, points for actually making an effort re: the rest of the costume but the skin tone is a massive "DON'T DO THAT"

feel like there should be some blackface pool 2012 or something, this shit is getting absurd

andre agassi is mr t. at a church potluck

Walk Off HBP
Tue 01 Nov 2011 3:25 PM

Standing ovation to Michael Chang's costume as 80's elementary school dork.

shamefully, I lolled

http://gawker.com/5859449/

The [University of Southern Mississippi] Dean of Students Office said the six women, all members of Phi Mu sorority, dressed in blackface to depict themselves as the Huxtable family from 'The Cosby Show,' as part of their participation in a 1980s-themed, off-campus costume party on Wednesday.

retromania

irl lols

Fashion's Elite Got Good and Blackfaced at a Party in Milan Last Night

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The first sentence says nearly everything you need to know for context: Milan's annual Halloweek masquerade party took place last night, and the theme was Disco Africa.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-costumes-backfire-article-1.1498693

yeah, don't do that.

Christ almighty.

I came to post about this starlet I've never heard of wearing blackface for Halloween as "Crazy Eyes" from OITNB (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/10/julianne-hough-apologizes-for-donning-blackface/) but that Trayvon Marin costume is so reprehensible and the dude is so unrepentant.

Do these people not have a single not racist (or even slightly less racist) friend? Somebody who might say, "Hey, you know what, that is racist as hell. Don't do that"? Fellow white people, I beg you, if you have a friend who wants to dress up like this, stop them.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton/14-times-people-dressed-as-people-of-other-races-for-hallowe

http://sfist.com/2013/10/28/fake_asiana_airlines_pilots_become.php

My friend's daughter wants to dress up as the TV character Luther for Halloween. He explained that this is not allowed and she is bummed.

As someone who would (instinctively) not dress up in blackface, I really want to know what goes through the minds of people who do.

My friend's daughter wants to dress up as the TV character Luther for Halloween. He explained that this is not allowed and she is bummed.

― polyphonic, Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i feel that as long as there's no facepaint, fake wigs etc. involved, should be okay. yeah?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/10/02/arts/02LUTHER1/02Luther1-articleLarge.jpg

not impossible to do without blackface, he's wearing practically the same outfit in every image on google, and honestly even with blackface it's not like it'd be any more obvious, she'd still have to explain to everyone who she is

don't think anyone really has a problem with dressing up as a character of a different race as long as that race isn't part of the costume, every character wears costumes

xp!

If a white teenaged girl was wearing those clothes would you say "nice Luther costume"?

if she was wearing those clothes in blackface i'd still have to be told what it is (and i've watched luther)

what the fuck is Luther

Luther is a British psychological crime drama television series starring Idris Elba as the title character Detective Chief Inspector John Luther.

With some of the most beautiful pictures of London this century

As someone who would (instinctively) not dress up in blackface, I really want to know what goes through the minds of people who do.

It's a sunshiny cliché for people to say "I don't see color," but for white people that do this, it's true -- that they don't see the color of other white people. But skin that's darker or eye folds that are different leap out to some people.

You notice the blind person with the fogged-up eyes, but you walk past hundreds of people a day with sight and don't think much of it. I'm sure there are some white people who have gotten the flour makeup out to do Johnny or Edgar Winter because their skin is noticeably different.

This does not excuse or pardon or give a pass to any person over the age of six to don a costume mimicking another race. And the kid under six doesn't get a pass because they better have an adult telling them no. But I am trying to explain, to get in the head, of someone not usually showing off racist characteristics thinking this is an approachable idea.

When I was in 5th grade, they used to put on this talent show based on the lip-synch show "Puttin' on the Hits". A buddy of mine and I were riding home on the school bus when he tells me he's thinking about lip-synching "Shake You Down" by Gregory Abbot. We talk about how it's a pretty smooth song, how he'll need to match the clothes in the video and also is he going to wear black makeup? Eventually, he got a little stage fright before even submitting his name to the talent director, so nothing ever became of it.

I don't think we were nasty racists, but definitely we were ignorant and insensitive to a few things. To us, black (or brown, or heck - in Gregory Abbot's case - very light brown) skin was as much of a distinctive feature as the mole on Aaron Neville's forehead. But I would tell that 10-year-old pplains (or even better, my IRL kids) that there's a lot of horrible history associated with dressing up and parodying people who don't look like us. And besides, going out of our way to hammer home that a celebrity or other person looks different is one of the many things that keeps that line drawn between some of us.

I don't know if I've explained this very well and I sure do feel weird posting it, but why would someone dress up in blackface? I guess at one time a long time ago, I thought I knew why.

And this is more for people like that actress who dressed up like the black character from the prison show. Anyone who dress up like Trayvon should also have a gun pointed at them.

And I don't care how much shoe polish you've got, you're never going to pass for Stringer Bell.

How would a white person dress up as that dude on the left in that picture? All his clothes look the same.

Did I tell this story? I don't think I did here.

My third grade class wasn't 100% white but it was close and thus I (I'm white btw) played Harriet Tubman in a play. I asked the teacher if I should wear brown makeup because I was 8 and my class was nearly all white and I had no idea about the history of blackface. I am not even confident that my parents would have known better. In my memory the teacher was initially going to go with it but thank fuck either she had some insight or somebody stepped in (either happening being against the odds as this was ~ 80/81 in a very rural and very white area) because it didn't happen. I mean, I still played Harriet Tubman in a play but not in black face.

I also still remember my opening lines: "My name is Harriet Tubman, or 'Moses' to those I helped. As a child, I was whipped and beaten by my slave master."

in fourth grade i played a rapping vince lombardi

that felt relevant

Talking about blackface here, not gasface.

Well, I can't tell how light or dark this fella is IRL, but that's not really the point for this one, is it?

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why are they the only ones in costume

That was probably my third or fourth question.

obie stompin' moby (Whiney G. Weingarten)
Posted: October 29, 2013 at 6:50:07 PM
"what the fuck is Luther"

Is this your "I've never heard the Beatles knowingly" moment here or

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My son's best friend is going as "a jamaican". Not in blackface, but with a dreadlock wig. No idea what the fuck to even say when I run into him tonight.

You do get white Jamaicans

Repeatedly refer to it as an Adam Duritz costume