OINK Probs???

yeah, that Oink-as-Google thing is pretty disingenuous to say the least, considering you had to maintain a share ratio or get your account deleted.

the fact that hes talking in detail about lots of this shit to, you know, the internet sounds crazy stupid to me. along with the part about not having hired a lawyer.

@deej, yeah, but he isn't charged with anything yet. So there's nothing a lawyer could do for him right now. Except being costly to someone who just got fired.

well, i would still prob stfu from the online convos/talking to the press

i would prob have not started an illegal filesharing hub

echoes of aphex lamenting the loss of audiogalaxy back in the day

if i had, i also wouldn't house it in the uk, and i would probably want the url to not be publicly listed w/ my name and address

also would not have called it "oink!" and made it embarrassingly twee

Wow, I had no idea OiNK was such a high-trafficked site. Did it really replace Slsk for you guys? (The only places I use to download entire albums are non-p2p venues like Sound Opinions Message Board and Sordo Music Archive.)

(I mean, I thought ILX just made fun of OiNK users.)

Did it really replace Slsk for you guys?

it did for me.

slsk was down when i tried it last night o_O

friggy> you just get bailed for free?
OiNK> yes
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smartface> does the paypal account have any funds on it ATM?
OiNK> it had some, and the account has been permanently limited
smartface> did they actually question you?
OiNK> of course, for hours
OiNK> the police had very limited technical knowledge, which made the interview quite amusing actually.
OiNK> i wasn't willing to teach them how to use a computer
OiNK> they actually wanted me to teach them how to set up a website
OiNK> i just told them to google it.
smartface> have you become a millionarie with our donations?
OiNK> no
smartface> are you planned for a trial anytime soon?
OiNK> the earliest date for trial is 26th december - though highly unlikely
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Xenafor> IS YOUR FATHER OKAY AS WELL?
OiNK> my father is fine.
OiNK> my father was not arrested, though they did take his work laptop
Xenafor> Are you a vegetarian?
OiNK> yes.
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apelure> what does the carges about fraud mean?
OiNK> i've not been charged ...
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knifeboy> Did they do the good cop/bad cop routine?
OiNK> no
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Stormx2> Everyone is first and foremost concerned for you and everything, but at the back of our minds (I think) we're interested in what you think will happen the the pink palace. Obviously you won't have a starring roll, but will the backups be destroyed?
OiNK> why would backups be destroyed?
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j2los> do you think at minimum the forums will be restored as a community for discussing music?
OiNK> i don't know
j2los> do you think it is absurd that only now that the site has been taken down has it been deemed notable enough for a wikipedia article?
OiNK> i found that amusing, yes
OiNK> i'm glad the article is staying neutral
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guildmast> Are there any plans for an official OiNK donations fund we can feel comfortable donating to?
OiNK> not yet
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ftdrs> seriously though, what did they accuse you of?
OiNK> conspiracy to defraud and copyright infringements
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maxdoubt> do you have/need legal representation?
OiNK> i'm still deciding on legal advice
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Kevix> did you have any warning before hand that the knock opn your door was coming?
OiNK> no
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Yawg> did you anticipate a raid in the past? Did you take any precautions regarding site design and logs and whatnot to protect the community?
OiNK> the logs we store aren't enough to inciminate users
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Gl1mw0rm> are you still the rigtfull owner of the oink.cd domain?
OiNK> unclear
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Barth> what about the recent security/privacy changes to the site and the irc? was that a coincidence or did you see something coming?
OiNK> coincidence
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midnightgt> (without incriminating anyone) is there any copy of the source anywhere? Would you be in support of a second coming of the website? How do you think this reflects on the war on file sharing? (Certainly I do not feel like we are losing)
OiNK> sorry, no comment :)
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lhnz> Why exactly did the cops want you to make a website for them?:P :D
OiNK> dunno
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ATF> did you get fired from work?
OiNK> yes
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gleam> do you think you or anyone else will ever hear from tmt again? :)
OiNK> no
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MooIsTooWrong> do you think most of the people in this channel are asking asshat questions?
OiNK> yes
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uQ1> What grounds did your work fire you?
OiNK> i'm not going to go into that, sorry.

And now, something from this morning (after he'd seen the guardian article)
OiNK> they got my company wrong, but besides that, it's quite a good article
OiNK> the police were here around 30 mins ago, and they were not happy one bit when they left
OiNK> they asked me how i was coping with all the media coming around
OiNK> i said "i don't mind it at all, i'm just telling them the truth, unlike you"

http://tehpaine.blogspot.com

a true hero

no jaymc, we made fun of people who wanted be oink users but couldn't get an invite

http://socialjustice.ccnmtl.columbia.edu/images/0/05/Assata_Shakur_-_early_picture.jpg

Xenafor> Are you a vegetarian?
OiNK> yes.

i gave a googler an invite once

Cutty otm

xp

seriously this dude is being silly. when he gets threatened w/ real time he will flip on any users who were posting shit before the release date.

http://www.airbrush.ch/images/DesignFabu/Fila.jpg

someone do nick sylvester style interview w/ OiNK

According to users, Oink had a daily throughput the equivalent of five million songs and registered members were able to download around 1,000 songs.

Best media line yet

i was about a year away from figuring out if i wanted to learn what oink is. don't you people get enough music as it is?

(boxcar)

i gave a googler an invite once

-- jhøshea, Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:37 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol, so did Confounded. to a lady who broke his heart.

crabcigar APPRECIATION THREAD

Q: Do I as a normal user need to be scared?
A: No. The logs stored were not enough to incriminate any of our users. They have better things to do than hunt down 180,000 Britney Spears fans.

if u uploaded an album before the release date tho?

not saying i have btw, i havent even been a member for over a year

i still miss audiogalaxy

Hardly an authoritative reply: http://tehpaine.blogspot.com/2007/10/frequently-asked-questions.html#c9161380854469170335

i gave a googler an invite once

-- jhøshea, Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:37 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

lol, so did Confounded. to a lady who broke his heart.

-- sanskrit, Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:25 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

do i want to know more abt this?

I hope everyone of you thieves is hounded to your graves for stealing money from artists that starved for their fame. You think that musicians are born rich? Think again. You're on the same moral ground as a race riot looter. Feel that you fucktards.

from Leee's link.

Feel that you fucktards.

audiogalaxy was such shit. yeah i want an album of mp3s culled from 10 different people, different bitrates, and some incompletes. uhhhh?

lol specifically a RACE riot looter

Audiogalaxy was BROAD; I could find music on there by local bands I went to college with. Also, the community aspect was great.
I missed OINK entirely, though one of you folks DID pass me an invite, so I'm not sure how it compares.

i assure you oink was BROAD-ER. i sent your significant other an invite.

Meanwhile, Usenet just keeps on chugging away...

Yeah, Audiogalaxy was awesome for tracking down rare b-side or whatever, but an absolute nightmare for getting albums.

What is usenet? I keep seeing this mentioned now.

It's like this text-based group-based topic-based network thing that existed before the graphical browser html thing took over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

some thoughts--

the record labels are already fucked. no hope for them with any of the new models they've tried to implement.

they had the biggest, nerdiest, music consumers (by consume i mean downloading, uploading and listening) right in front of them with oink.

they could have monetized that shit. release albums to oink, etc. instead the completely OBLITERATE their demographic in one fell swoop.

wake up, morans...

the labels couldn't get an invite

Approximately 175,000 of the 180,000 members were industry people.

i'm sure the real stats on industry people on oink would blow some minds.

I can't believe Usenet has never been seriously policed by The Man. It's been the home of free shit for a decade or more, and honestly, it seems as good as ever.

I can't believe people don't know what Usenet is.

The Man and all his fuckwitted lackeys are way too dense to get their heads round binaries.

mind, i've not been anywhere near usenet for years now.

anyone have an invite to usenet ;)

alt.confused.googlers.IRE