Inception (with implanted spoilers)

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great tweet from earlier in the year: "It's official: INCEPTION has replaced THE MATRIX as the annoying film that all my philosophy students bring up, regardless of relevance."

also:

speculation as to which movie Tape Store will endorse to hate in 2011?

― Bitch, it cold outside!!! BURR (San Te), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:05 (9 months ago)

MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, tho I w/o fifty minutes in...

licking your challops (Tape Store), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 02:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

The limbo level is totally like my dreams.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 05:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

do you love buildings of that type?

caek, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha! My wife and I have had similar conversations, yeah.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 06:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Surprised there wasn't more nudity in this.

pplains, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wonder where you got the idea there would be more nudity...?

INCEPTED

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

sincepted

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ "Inception" done in the style of "Sin City"

do not wake the dragon (DJP), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

These dream movies where the hallways are bouncing around or we're painting with flowers now or Eddie Albert's the president on a subway car… seems like there should be somebody naked, if not the lady in some ticket window, then the protagonist himself locked in a conference room.

pplains, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

You need to watch Paprika.

antiautodefenestrationism (ledge), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

I had a dream the other night where I was assembling a flashlight. That was it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Did it turn on? Usually batteries are pretty sluggish in dreams.

pplains, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

No! All I did was struggle to put it together.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

And then people shot at me with machine guns for 45 minutes.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

/scene

generation lmbo (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 14:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I totally get Max's confusion, because the movie was kinda unclear about the Limbo thing. IIRC the level Leo and Marion wasn't Limbo, it was just a deep level of dreaming where time moved really slow (since time moves slower the lower the level you are on is). They spent so much time there because the wanted to, but also because they couldn't get out (there was no outsider to wake them up, they relied on some automatic waking mechanism, so they had to stay there until that kicked in).

Limbo, on the other hand, is a place where you end up if you die while inside the dream. When you're in Limbo, you forget that you are inside a dream, so you're lost there. The only way to get out of Limbo is to kill yourself, but since you don't know that you're dreaming, you're not likely to do that. This is why they are so upset when the Japanese guy dies inside the dream. The reason Marion killed herself was because she thought she was in Limbo, and wanted to "wake up".

However, the movie itself confuses the two in the finale. Leo is clearly shown to be entering the fourth level on dreaming, the one she and Marion spent 50 years in, yet somehow he finds the Japanese guy there, even though he's supposed to be in Limbo, and Limbo is supposed to be an altogether different place. (I guess they did this because otherwise there'd be no explanation why Leo didn't forget he was dreaming, even though the Japanese guy did).

I thought this was one of the biggest flaws in the movie: it spent so much time explaining the mechanistic rules of inception, yet in the end didn't follow those rules itself. Paradoxically, if it hadn't been some damn logical about the dreamworld and opted for a more surreal approach, the finale would've made more sense.

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

"the level where Leo and Marion were wasn't Limbo"

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2011 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

They should have had someone come in at the end and explain it some more for 15 minutes.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like the end of "Psycho.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

A late-period Orson Welles, preferably.

A Lip in the Blandscape (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2011 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Aren't there some clues that Marion was right? At the very least, this is an open possibility, and I guess that's why I'm hesitant to really say I've understood what's actually happening in the movie.

ryan, Thursday, 27 October 2011 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

lars von trier in a tux

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 October 2011 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Ladies and gentleman, what you have seen today has been very confusing ..."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

when I first saw it I had the idea that maybe it was constructed like the Escher stairs it depicts at one point, that it leads back into itself at some point. but that's probably wrong and im too lazy to put all that effort into finding out if that's true.

ryan, Thursday, 27 October 2011 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

A lot of hand-waving with the limbo thing, but what I got was that you have to somewhat trick your mind into getting you out of there. It's just kind of glaring in a movie where things are spelled out, Ellen Page and Cillian Murphy's characters were able to just get knocked out of there. I assumed it was because it was lining up with the "kicks" in the other dream levels?

Cobb was able to get out because he'd done it before, and he confronts the fact that his version of the dead wife wasn't real and that somehow freed him. The "ah hah" moment of the film was when Cobb quotes Saito's line about being an old man, and turning it around was kind of the "I tricked Saito into incepting himself" moment to me.

So I guess that kind of covers how all four characters get out of there? Really, the limbo bit read to me as if you had to come level of self-consciousness in order to make it away.

mh, Monday, 31 October 2011 03:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Thursday, 17 November 2011 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

http://inception.davepedu.com/

StanM, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink


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